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Posted 03/03/10 01:42 PM
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These were pretty cool during their time. Came across these while studying more about piano history. They were not really pianos in the early years, the action was like that of a harpsichord, but were tiny leather fingers that plucked the string. In the mid 19th century piano american piano companies made them like a "piano" with striking action hammers. But was a short lived instrument.
But they are pretty cool to look at though.
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#1388335 - 03/04/10 07:57 PM Re: Harp Pianos [Re: pianohead30]
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This was before wound strings, to give the bass less inharmonicity?

Have you played one? I wonder if the tone is thin, with so much of each string not in the cabinet. But maybe not--if the bridge carries the vibrations to the soundboard, which could be bigger in the second one, these could still push some air.

I want one. Just to experiment with and take apart, if nothing else. Note to piano destruction video-makers: do not destroy your harp piano.


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#1388935 - 03/05/10 01:14 PM Re: Harp Pianos [Re: Jake Jackson]
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I played one years ago that was for sale, was tooooo expensive for me as a student at the time. They are very rare to come across as not many were made.
The one I saw/played was early 19th century, 1830s I would guess. It looked almost like the one in the first photo, but it wasnt black, more of a light wood color.
The strings were nylon like a harp, and it sounded much like a harp, there were no hammers inside, only small plectra, like a harpsichord. It is not loud and bright like a piano.
Cool piece of piano history.
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#1388970 - 03/05/10 01:49 PM Re: Harp Pianos [Re: pianohead30]
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They were also known as a Clavi Harp.
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#1471385 - 07/09/10 07:22 PM Re: Harp Pianos [Re: pianohead30]
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Pretty cool!
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#1526831 - 10/02/10 12:50 PM Re: Harp Pianos [Re: pianohead30]
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Very cool! What is the litle keyboard instrument on the floor in front?
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#1553749 - 11/08/10 04:26 PM Re: Harp Pianos [Re: pianohead30]
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I am guessing, a 18th century harmonic tuner, or a child harmonium organ. One of the 2 I am sure.
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#1673629 - 05/08/11 01:48 PM Re: Harp Pianos [Re: pianohead30]
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I thought of sharing this with you all


is it this same piano as above? gosh i am playing the 1st piece, but mine is in slow motion LOL!!!


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#1673633 - 05/08/11 01:51 PM Re: Harp Pianos [Re: pianohead30]
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BTW thanks for this topic, i did not even know such instruments existed!
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#1675080 - 05/10/11 01:19 PM Re: Harp Pianos [Re: pianohead30]
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Wow! yeah that is just like them almost. Must be a replica. It seems to be a harpsichord though. Not a clavi-harp. Clavi harps have plectras that are rubber or leather covered to give more of a harp sound. They also have nylon strings.

Thanks for posting!!!:)


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#1676129 - 05/12/11 08:40 AM Re: Harp Pianos [Re: pianohead30]
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LOL! what are plectras!! Sorry i'm quite new to all this piano-terminology! laugh
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#1676314 - 05/12/11 02:09 PM Re: Harp Pianos [Re: pianohead30]
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Plectra is the device that plucks the string inside of a harpsichord, harpsichord being the forerunner of the pianoforte. The clavi-harp works similar, just in vertical form.
see below harpsichord workings:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71x4MSlpGUk
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#1678064 - 05/15/11 10:30 AM Re: Harp Pianos [Re: pianohead30]
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Oh thanks for the explanation smile

Wow now that i've seen the vid, it all makes more sense for me. I definitely prefer the piano sound, the harpsichord is more harsh + you can actually hear the moving parts and the plucking, the piano is much smoother. i love it! heart


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#1678857 - 05/16/11 04:54 PM Re: Harp Pianos [Re: pianohead30]
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There is the clavichord as well with is like a ancient piano. They are soft.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3fV-ggsJrI
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#1679145 - 05/17/11 04:32 AM Re: Harp Pianos [Re: pianohead30]
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Thanks very much for the info. Do you know any kind of book that's worth reading to learn about the origins and the piano itself?
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#1680099 - 05/18/11 01:28 PM Re: Harp Pianos [Re: AnnaS]
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There are 2 in my collection that are good.

1.) The Benton Fletcher Collection at Fenton House: Early Keyboard Instruments; By: Mimi S. Waitzman

2.) Is called "Piano" By: David Crombie, which is very pictorial

I would start out with those if you can find them. I know "Piano" is more recent than the other. Local library always has something i am sure.
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#1682998 - 05/23/11 10:05 AM Re: Harp Pianos [Re: pianohead30]
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Ok thanks for the info, i will look for any one of these books laugh
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