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#1009208 - 01/01/07 01:51 AM A Hanon challenge anyone?
stephenc Offline
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Just wondering if anyone would be keen to tackle a Hanon a week? We could start at exercise 1 and continue at least to say exercise 20. For those who are able, it would be great to post a weekly recording of the exercise to make sure they are getting completed.
I believe the exercises are available free online...so there's no excuse not to take the challenge!!!!

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#1009209 - 01/01/07 03:24 AM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
Ina Offline
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Link to Hanon:
http://www.sheetmusicarchive.net/single_listing.cfm?composer_id=7

You may download only 2 items per day.
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#1009210 - 01/01/07 05:22 AM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
dannylux Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Ina:
Link to Hanon:
http://www.sheetmusicarchive.net/single_listing.cfm?composer_id=7

You may download only 2 items per day. [/b]
The first 20 exercises are in the third link from the bottom in Ina's link, "The Virtuouso Pianist, Part 1".

Stephen, this is a great idea.

Mel
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#1009211 - 01/01/07 09:51 AM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
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Great idea! I've been using 1-3 as warmups lately so this will give me some incentive to push forward through the others. Count me in!

Unfortunately, I won't be able to send recordings. I'm planning on getting a Zoom sometime in the future but don't have any way of recording now. You'll just have to trust me \:D
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#1009212 - 01/01/07 10:14 AM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
Euan Morrison Offline
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I've been meaning to work through my Hanon regularly, so I'm in.

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#1009213 - 01/01/07 10:57 AM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
loveschopintoomuch Offline
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Count me in. I KNOW I should be doing Hanon, but I just can't bring myself to do it on a regular basis. :rolleyes:

One a week sounds perfect, and I would be willing to record even though I won the "worst recording ever" on the last recital.


So when do we start?? \:\) \:\)

Maybe, since the first day of the year falls on a Monday, we could start this today and then record (if we want on Sunday)...just a suggestion.

Kathleen
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#1009214 - 01/01/07 11:01 AM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
LiszThalberg Offline
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I'm up for anything!
I confess i've been working on 1-14 but stopped after that. This will help me get back on track.
yeah, when do we start \:\)

Matt

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#1009215 - 01/01/07 11:51 AM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
loveschopintoomuch Offline
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I'm going to start today. I HAVE to get both hands playing #1. Right now, I am only concentrating on my left hand, since it is pretty weak (pinched nerve), but that's not an excuse.

Hey, everyone...let's start!! OK?

A question, what speed should we be shooting for? Or does it matter. Do we need to play at the tempo indicated? If so, I'm a goner!!


Kathleen
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#1009216 - 01/01/07 12:13 PM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
Euan Morrison Offline
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I don't think there should be a set tempo for us all.
Instead of targeting speed, I think a smooth, even performance is a better terget instead of a particular speed.

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#1009217 - 01/01/07 12:16 PM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
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And they're off!

I'm starting today.

As far as tempo, I don't think it matters. Although I do play them at the indicated tempo, I think the point is to build flexibility and strength so playing with both hands and playing smoothly is more important (I think) than trying to fly through them and as a result play them poorly.

I generally start slowly focusing on correctness and then build speed as they become more familiar and my fingers have adapted to whatever technique the particular exercise requires.
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#1009218 - 01/01/07 12:31 PM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
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Just a thought - Hanon is not necessarily at its most useful if you work through the exercises sequentially. You may well find that dipping into some of the more involved exercises at the back of the book, as well as some of the early ones will bring your playing on far more rapidly. Especially some of the octave work.
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#1009219 - 01/01/07 12:54 PM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
trainlady Offline
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Loc: New Jersey
I got distracted from Hanon while trying to learn to play Christmas Carols.

I'm in!
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#1009220 - 01/01/07 01:34 PM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
loveschopintoomuch Offline
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C7: I agree that evenness is more important than speed, but that the speed will pick up the more you play.

Also, AJB, you do have a point about skipping to the back every so often to find an exercise that might help you play the piece you are learning.

But, I am like a horse with blinders. I have to go full speed ahead...and stick to each lesson, one after another...if not, I'll get off track and will probably quit. \:\( But if it works for other people, I say: Go for it. \:\)

Just think...we can post ourselves playing Hanon exercises. I'm sure everyone in the forum will be avid with excitement, waiting to listen. \:D

Kathleen
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#1009221 - 01/01/07 02:59 PM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
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Ok, great enthusiasm guys. I to worked through about 1 -7 and then couldn't find more motivation to continue, so I can't wait to continue the venture. The best thing about Hanon is that the exercises are not rocket science,anyone can play them, and once you know the first you have the fundamentals for many that follow.

And after a while you don't need to think while playing them, they just make your hands strong and fingers nimble which is what I am hoping to get from them - I'd prefer to put all my concentration into actual pieces.

So, yes I agree, lets start today - I'll post a seperate thread ach week with a list of participants and, if they have recorded, a tick of approval next to their name as indication of pasing the exercise - others who don't post just need let us know and we'll trust that they have indeed passed!!

I agree about the tempo, certainly Hanon is made to be played fast eventually, but I say just play them at a comfortable tempo for now and concentrate on even and correct fingering on both hands. Good lUck!!

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#1009222 - 01/01/07 03:14 PM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
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Registered: 08/12/06
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Loc: Massachusetts
Include me -- I welcome anything that will provide motivation.
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#1009223 - 01/01/07 04:32 PM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
Tana Offline
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Loc: Australia
Hi, count me in too. Sounds like a great idea. I can't record yet though... everyone will have to trust me \:\) LOL

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#1009224 - 01/01/07 04:38 PM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
NancyM333 Offline
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Loc: Roswell, Georgia
Add me to your list also. I love to be accountable when I might not otherwise get to something like this.

Nancy
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#1009225 - 01/01/07 06:04 PM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
loveschopintoomuch Offline
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Someone once suggested I play these exercises with my eyes shut (or at least not looking at the music or the keyboard).

I've tried it and I like it. It really makes your fingers find the keys before plunking down on them. A way to strengthen your fingers and also improve your "touch."

Kathleen
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#1009226 - 01/02/07 07:15 AM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
Ragnhild Offline
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As my Hanon copy has not been too much used so far, I would like to join you.
Please don't expect me to post any recordings (my ears just hate Hanon, though my fingers like him ;\) )

Ragnhild
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#1009227 - 01/02/07 08:40 PM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
Joey Offline
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I'm In!
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#1009228 - 01/03/07 02:18 AM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
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Are these exercises suitable for a complete beginner?
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#1009229 - 01/03/07 03:08 AM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
stephenc Offline
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The Hanon book suggests starting the exercises at about a year of playing - musically, the exercises are very simple, I think its more the hand strength that complete beginners have yet to develop that is the main reason the book suggests waiting that year or so. Maybe overstrenuating early can be negative in the longer term injury wise?

I certainly don't think it would hurt an absolute beginner to start the exercises AT A SLOW PACE and start developing right hand left hand co-ordination.

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#1009230 - 01/03/07 06:24 AM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
LiszThalberg Offline
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just wait till we get to 30-40! those freak me out with the thumb under whooshes and the other things... (you can tell a 13 year old didnt want to get out of bed this early....school - and no music class this semester!!!)

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#1009231 - 01/03/07 01:00 PM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
hobo57 Offline
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Regarding starting, I'm excited to do this, but just read the post from stephenc about waiting a year. I don't want to criple my (almost) 50 year-old hands, but I've been typing for nearly 20 years on computers, and juggling even longer (though you wouldn't know to watch me).

Does anyone really think I need to wait?

Thanks, Mark
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#1009232 - 01/03/07 03:09 PM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
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No, no reason to wait. You've probably got a reasonable amount of strength from the typing (not sure about the juggling though!). The principle difference would be the stretching required for the Hanon but if you take it slowly you should have no problems.
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#1009233 - 01/03/07 11:49 PM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
shimmer Offline
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Hi. I am new to this forum and have only been taking lessons for 4 months. I have no idea what Hanon is as my teacher is very relaxed about technical practice as I am only in this for the enjoyment of playing and have no intention of taking exams or giving recitals ( ).

Just picking up on the info from stephenc (a fellow aussie!) about waiting for a year. I can play scales fairly fast with both hands using the entire length of the piano. Please excuse my ignorance but is that enough training to try hanon? I am looking for any exercises that will help me improve.

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#1009234 - 01/04/07 02:17 AM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
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Welcome shimmer,

great to have another aussie on board! Judging by your ability to play full length scales, I would say your hands are good and ready for Hanon. Basically, the exercises are repeating patterns (different for each exercise) moving up and down the keyboard. They aim to build finger strenght speed and wrist flexibility and from what I can gather are very popular worldwide for achieving this purpose - I think I read that Rachmaninoff made them mandatory for his students. So, please join us for this journey!

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#1009235 - 01/04/07 05:28 AM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
seraf Offline
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Registered: 05/28/06
Posts: 9
Loc: Sweden
Hi everyone. I would love to be a part of this challenge even though I never have done any kind of technical exercises before... But, I guess Hanon is the perfect place to start? Anyway, can I join? I haven't any recording stuff but I have a digitalcamera, I suppose I can use that. Thanks anyway!

//Charlotte
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#1009236 - 01/04/07 05:36 AM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
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Great idea! I've started Hanon recently and reached # 2, so it's a valuable additional motivator.

Not sure about sending in recordings, definitely not in the beginning, maybe later - but as I'm the one gaining most by me sticking to the excercise, no motivation to "cheat".

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#1009237 - 01/04/07 05:37 AM Re: A Hanon challenge anyone?
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Just noticed I didn't say it specifically: please count me in.

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