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#1009431 - 10/20/06 06:55 PM What is your favorite piano movie?
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Mine is the Pianist. Good combination of history drama, awesome settings, great clothing, emotional stirring and an awesome piano solo at the end.
what is yours? reason why i ask, i just recently been interested in seeing movies centered around the piano, or the piano as a major backdrop. i want to go rent these based on your choices.
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#1009432 - 10/20/06 07:01 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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I liked The Pianist, too. I also liked "The Piano" (with Holly Hunter) very much, in large part due to Michael Nyman's moving score. (Harvey Keitel's naked butt I could do without. ;\) ) One of these days I WILL learn "The heart asks pleasure first"!
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#1009433 - 10/20/06 07:21 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Hi Briian 13 ....

Can't go wrong with the Liberace story. He is credited with the best quote (for my money) regarding reviews of his playing ...

"...It doesn't matter what they say about me -as long as they say something!"

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#1009434 - 10/20/06 10:00 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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The Pianist for sure. And what was the name of the one where the kid went nuts trying to learn the Rach3? That was a good one.
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#1009435 - 10/20/06 10:11 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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So far "The Legend of 1900." There is a piano duel in it between "our hero" and Jelly Roll Morton that will make you sweat. On the peripheral side, there's nice little piano bits in "Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte," and in another good old Brit gothic, "The Uninvited."
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#1009436 - 10/20/06 10:42 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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The Pianist hands down. Chopin soundtrack and moving story.

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#1009437 - 10/20/06 11:35 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Con Amore - a Polish movie about 2 pianists and Chopin piano competition in Warsaw.

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#1009438 - 10/21/06 07:49 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Amadeus!!! Surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet...

Interesting thread!

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#1009439 - 10/21/06 07:54 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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The Pianist for sure. And what was the name of the one where the kid went nuts trying to learn the Rach3? That was a good one. [/b]
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#1009440 - 10/21/06 07:59 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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#1009441 - 10/21/06 11:19 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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A Charlie Brown Christmas

Its not about the piano, and I'm not sure its a movie, but just listen to that piano !!

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#1009442 - 10/21/06 11:45 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Imortal Beloved: Story of Beethoven
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#1009443 - 10/21/06 12:11 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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#1009444 - 10/21/06 01:33 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Another vote for "Amadeus". I love the part in the royal palace where Salieri is playing, and Mozart picks up on his theme, and improvises how the piece "could" sound...very funny.
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#1009445 - 10/21/06 02:07 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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thank you, i have seen Shine and Amadeus, both great movies.
I have made a mental list of all the recommendations; I just hope my blockbuster even carries at least one of those names. probably not.
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#1009446 - 10/21/06 02:18 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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let me add that my favorite scene in The Pianist is when the kind German officer wanted Brody to play the piano, probably thinking, "pianist?? show me then" and then Brody slowly crept up to the piano, almost looking like he was lying, played a few notes like anyone could do, but then displayed a masterpiece that not only confirmed to the officer, but blew him away.
the acting of that scene was very subtle but incredible, without any words you could tell what both were communicating to each other. and then at the end, the German officer (we find out he has a very high status) brings him a cloth of bread and jam (which Brody almost dies for, i also took out my jam from the fridge to do the same thing after i saw that) and the metal hinge that Brody tried to use to open the can. very touching, very thoughtful for the officer to supply that, remembering that from the night before...showing that even the wicked german regime has a few human beings with a warm heart.

my favorite scene in amadeus, was when Mozart was entertaining the club of people he worked with, imitating Salieri and such. I always dreamed of being able to play the piano for a group of people, or at a place so that everyone can gather around and smile.

what is your favorite scene of a movie?
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#1009447 - 10/21/06 02:20 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Madame Sousatzka, with Shirley MacLaine is one of my very favorites.

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#1009448 - 10/21/06 02:37 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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briiian,

There are a couple of scenes in the Pianist which are my favourites:

- When Szpilman gets moved to a new flat (with a piano in it \:\) ). He is under strict instruction to be 'very quiet'. He slowly adjusts the stool, the orchestra begins the piece, he raises his hands above the keys and .....

- I also liked the scenes in the ghetto cafe, first when he gets asked to stop for a few minutes - he starts blowing a kiss to the lady. And the second time, when his sister is there - he plays the ending of the piece in record time to go and see what is wrong.

One thing I never understood about the film - when Szpilman plays to the German, we see guards outside. Surely they would hear the amazing playing through the ruins and realise that Hosenfeld wasn't that good at the piano?

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#1009449 - 10/21/06 03:47 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Euan,
i thought about that too, but then on second thought, i figured,
the guards cannot question their commander and must stay on guard. they may think probably he does secretly know how to play that piece, and maybe also the guards may not have any interest in piano to take any notice.
whatever their commanding officer told them to do , they must do, and whatever he does inside is no business of theirs.
that is what i rationalized about that peculiarity.

anyways, lazy saturday today, nothing to do, maybe i'll pop the pianist dvd in and watch again!
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#1009450 - 10/21/06 04:34 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Yes, that is a logical answer to the problem.

Another one is that the guards probably wouldn't be thinking of a scenario involving a world-class pianist found hiding in the ruins, and now playing in the same building as a german officer. That would be a little fantastical (yet true!)

Another movie which is good is 'Richter: The Enigma'. Lots of good footage of Sviatoslav Richter and a detailed look at his life and playing.

Enjoy watching The Pianist again!

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#1009451 - 10/21/06 06:56 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Yeah, "Immortal Beloved" is great!

Also, I just thought of "Impromptu," about which I have mixed feelings. Though I don't much care for Hugh Grant, I'm a big fan of Judy Davis and Bernadette Peters. But Davis seems a little bit miscast as Sand, and Peters, as the Comtesse d'Agoult, pronounces Chopin's name something like "sho-PONG"! [/b]
Agree, Immortal Beloved is great. I also have mixed feelings about Impromptu. I should be incredibly grateful to that movie though since it inadvertently it led me back to Chopin. I'd rented it because I'm partial to Julian Sands (Liszt) and my nickname in college was "George Sand." (I'd never been into her or anything. I just lived in a language hall with a lot of French students and they came up with the nickname. I'm a dark brunette, a scribbler, and was at the time even more inclined to dress like a guy than I am now. Skirt? Do I OWN a skirt?) I thought the movie was "OK" but I remembered that affair had ended in tears, not all sweetness and light as in the movie so I had to check my facts. That led me to Chopin's letters. Turns out we share the same neuroses, sense of humor, astrological sign and weak chest. And the rest is history - - - -

Ironically, my daughter cannot stand Chopin (too dissonant). She once asked me, "can't you play some music from Immortal Beloved?" (Sorry kid, no orchestra.)

Chopin, Desire for Love isn't a bad movie. It's a bit melodramatic and all from Sand's side with a lot of misinformation but there are some great piano scenes and it's beautifully photographed. Filmed on site in Majorca for one thing. My favorite scene in that movie is when a very young Chopin, newly in Paris get a "piano lesson" from a publisher after he rejects Chopin's compositions. "Don't you know what a piano is for?" the publisher asks sarcastically, and then tinkles off some pretty prissy little ditty and Chopin holds his peace but looks like he can't decide whether to deck the patronizing *** or barf. There's also a very effective but historically inaccurate "music video" of the Revolutionary Etude thundering while Russian soldiers smash in the clavier of Chopin's childhood piano with the butts of their rifles and then burn it. That happened but not until 1866.
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#1009452 - 10/21/06 07:44 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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the Competition.. Richard Dreyfus

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#1009453 - 10/22/06 05:51 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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"An American in Paris" ... Concert pianist Oscar Lavant playing Gershwin's "Piano Concerto in F".

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#1009454 - 10/22/06 05:51 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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i have several...really almost EVERY movie having ANYTHING to do with the piano or the great master composers.

the first one, it introduced me to classical music, believe it or not, was fantasia. i was spellbound by the beauty of that magnificent music...beethoven, schubert, tchaikovsky, bach, stravinsky. i've been 'hooked' ever since.

Madame Sousatzka...super, especially the ending.

a song to remember...a bio of chopin's life. not much truth to it, but the music was the star. i especially liked it because almost every composition (and there were a lot of them) played was finished...to the end. boy, do i hate when they'll start a famous piece and then cut it after a minute.

to be honest, i didn't have the stomach to watch the pianist when it first came out. i did rent it later on, and while it was painful to watch, it was also a tribute to the human spirit.

i thought amadeus was weird. was mozart really that nutty? i read recently that his father had him until his thumb from the age of 4 until his early 20's. so when mozart was finally free to act on his own, he acted as a child because he never really had a childhood. he was irresponsible and lived beyond his means and in a dream word. a genius...absolutely. i actually sobbed at the end when they threw his body in that open pit of other corpses and then threw salt all over it...to cover the smell. how tragic.

immortal beloved...i loved it, each and every part. and the music, throughout, was, again, the star.

the competition was great...but they could have left out the romance and put in more music.

there are many others, but i'm sure you're bored by now.

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#1009455 - 10/22/06 06:57 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Originally posted by loveschopintoomuch:

i thought amadeus was weird. was mozart really that nutty? i read recently that his father had him until his thumb from the age of 4 until his early 20's. so when mozart was finally free to act on his own, he acted as a child because he never really had a childhood. he was irresponsible and lived beyond his means and in a dream word. kathleen [/b]
Yeah, he was that nutty. Kathleen's description makes him sound a lot like Michael Jackson. I never saw
the correlation until now.
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#1009456 - 10/22/06 07:29 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Amadeus!!! Surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet...

Interesting thread! [/b]
I agree. I enjoyed this movie alot. this is the only movie i've seen out of all the movies everyone has listed (except Charlie Brown Christmas). I've been looking for more piano based movies this is definantly helping out. \:\) now if i can just find them somewhere! Anyone think Blockbuster would have them? I got Amadeus from my local library. I just looked on their website and they have "The Pianist" \:\) .

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Originally posted by loveschopintoomuch:
i have several...really almost EVERY movie having ANYTHING to do with the piano or the great master composers.

the first one, it introduced me to classical music, believe it or not, was fantasia. i was spellbound by the beauty of that magnificent music...beethoven, schubert, tchaikovsky, bach, stravinsky. i've been 'hooked' ever since.

Madame Sousatzka...super, especially the ending.

a song to remember...a bio of chopin's life. not much truth to it, but the music was the star. i especially liked it because almost every composition (and there were a lot of them) played was finished...to the end. boy, do i hate when they'll start a famous piece and then cut it after a minute.

to be honest, i didn't have the stomach to watch the pianist when it first came out. i did rent it later on, and while it was painful to watch, it was also a tribute to the human spirit.

i thought amadeus was weird. was mozart really that nutty? i read recently that his father had him until his thumb from the age of 4 until his early 20's. so when mozart was finally free to act on his own, he acted as a child because he never really had a childhood. he was irresponsible and lived beyond his means and in a dream word. a genius...absolutely. i actually sobbed at the end when they threw his body in that open pit of other corpses and then threw salt all over it...to cover the smell. how tragic.

immortal beloved...i loved it, each and every part. and the music, throughout, was, again, the star.

the competition was great...but they could have left out the romance and put in more music.

there are many others, but i'm sure you're bored by now.

kathleen [/b]
No not bored at all i've been looking for piano based movies i've written a list of all the movies posted.I did see Amadues and watched the special feautures they said that they added more drama to it and they exagerated some of the facts. But i think that alot was true just with exageration.
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#1009457 - 10/22/06 08:43 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Most people don't know this but Mozart was probably the best billiards player in Vienna. (This was a skill George Sand tried to teach Chopin with very limited success. Apparently he kept dropping cues.)
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#1009458 - 10/22/06 09:54 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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My favourite piano(ish) film, would have to be "The Beat That My Heart Skipped"... Although I'd have preferred it if the piano took a slightly more promninant role, it's still an excellent film, and I'd reccommend it.

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#1009459 - 10/23/06 03:22 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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I like the "Amadeus" and so does my daughter, so we have seen it a couple of times.
My favourite scene is the one where Mozart on his death-bed is instructing Salieri how to write the music to "Confutatis Maledictis".
In my history-book it is not Salieri but a student named Sussmayer who finishes Mozarts Requiem, but the story is good even if its pure fiction.

It might be true that Mozart was a little "nuts", but his music is divine !

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#1009460 - 10/23/06 04:26 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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My favorite piano movie of recent is The Legend of 1900, with Tim Roth.

I also enjoyed Amadeus on Broadway (many years ago) and the movies.

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#1009461 - 10/23/06 04:33 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Hey remember Groundhog Day? Not a piano movie but there was the great part when Bill Murray living the one day over and over takes piano lessons so that in the end it appears he has learned to be this great pianist over night.
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#1009462 - 10/23/06 05:11 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Hey remember Groundhog Day? Not a piano movie but there was the great part when Bill Murray living the one day over and over takes piano lessons so that in the end it appears he has learned to be this great pianist over night.
Hey Peyton, that's probably most every pianist dream (deep down) - to impress - how did they learn to play like that!!! Kewl! (Play to impress yourself and you are sure to impress your audience). WOOT!
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#1009463 - 10/23/06 05:20 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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I've just read a review of a new film about pianos - it is called "The Page Turner". I think it's French. It is about a young girl who is a talented pianist who enters a competition, where a woman judge treats her badly. Later on when she becomes the judge's page-turner she gets her revenge...

Has anyone seen it? I'm going to find out if it's on in London maybe.

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#1009464 - 10/23/06 05:22 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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#1009465 - 10/24/06 10:34 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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How about "Song Without End" the story of Franz Liszt starring Dirk Bogarde and Capucine (an actress who later committed suicide).

What about the Eddie Duchin Story staring Tyrone Power and Kim Novak.

"The Competition" with Richard Dryfus and Amy Irving was also very good.
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#1009466 - 10/24/06 11:13 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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It's certainly not a piano movie ... but I was highly amused by one scene in the recent "Poseidon." It's a remake of the 1970s disaster flick in which a cruise ship is capsized by a giant wave. Among other unlikely scenarios that follow, a boy ends up trapped on a piano hanging from the ceiling .

I laughed my socks off at first but then I thought, hey, I wonder if they really do bolt pianos to the floor on cruise ships? If the ships rolls hard in a storm, I sure wouldn't want a big old grand circumnavigating the ballroom all on its own. Not that there's any chance the bolts would hold once the room went upside-down, or even that the body of the instrument would stay attached to the legs ... but, seriously, would there ever be a time to bolt a piano to the floor?

FYI, yes, I checked. It's a Baldwin.

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#1009467 - 10/24/06 06:45 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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What about the Eddie Duchin Story staring Tyrone Power and Kim Novak.
JerryG,

The Eddie Duchin Story was my vote in a similar thread over in the Piano Forum earlier this year. Carmen Cavallero did the actual playing in that movie.
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#1009468 - 10/24/06 09:41 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Anyone ever heard of the movie "Opus 11"
Good movie
About a blind kid and a high school band more than piano.

I would like the movie "Ray" is it had less sex and more music...

but im 13, and what do i know... :rolleyes:

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#1009469 - 10/24/06 10:06 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Let's Do The Time Warp Again!
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#1009470 - 10/24/06 10:15 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Lisztomania !! Perhaps not the best piano movie, actually its fairly crumby, but highly recommended for its sheer novelty value. Has anyone seen the movie Lisztomania? This movie is difficult to find; it was an indie film made sometime in the mid 70s, therefore you will be luckly if you see it in a blockbuster. This is by no means a historical film, but just a comedic spin on a few composers. Notable aspects in the movie include our protangonist, Liszt, and a Pope, who is played by former Beatles drummer Ringo Starr. There are many hiliarious episodes, but since its been so long when I last saw it, I can't really elaborate. But yea, worth one viewing.

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#1009471 - 10/24/06 10:32 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Here's my favorite piano Joke.

A man walks into a bar. As he opens the door, he sees a tiny little man playing the piano in the corner.

Next to the tiny little man, there stood a dusty old genie lamp covered in rubies and diamonds. The man picks up the lamp and starts to rub the dust off of it.

In a whirlwind of smoke, an old old genie squeezes himself out if the lamp and says in a soft voice: "I will grant you one wish, so wish carefully."

The man says: "I wish for a million bucks" and suddenly the bar fills up with a million ducks quacking and pooping everywhere.

In disappointment, the man goes to the bartender and says: "I'm truly sorry, but I wished for a million bucks, not a million ducks. I think the genie is going deaf".

The bartender replies: "Tell me about it. Do you really think I wished for a twelve inch pianist?"
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#1009472 - 10/25/06 12:06 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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i thought amadeus was weird. was mozart really that nutty?[/b]
I just watched the Directors cut DVD last weekend. And yes, he was quite nutty and "dirty". Check out K.231 and K.232 and you may see what I mean.

Also, I remember from my trip to Salzburg: Mozart Kuglen - Mozart balls! Mmm. Chocolate with pistachio marzipan. Thus, his nuttiness lives on to this very day! \:\)

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#1009473 - 10/25/06 12:12 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Ken Russell, Lisztomania, from the man who brought us The Devils of Loudon - -- Purist and stuffed shirts would find it appalling but I liked it. It's decidedly raunchy but goodnatured. It's silly, campy and very funny and still manages to portray the main events of Liszt's life in a highly symbolic way. I imagine Liszt somewhere in the great beyond might have gotten a chuckle out of it.

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#1009474 - 10/25/06 10:46 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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icekid... but \:D \:D

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#1009475 - 10/25/06 05:02 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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I know, it may be inappropriate, but I thought this was the "adult" beginner's forum.

In all seriousness, I would say my favorite movie was Impromptu. I remember a quote from that movie, which stuck with me. Chopin said to one of his students: "Simplicity is the hardest thing". It's something that I tend to live by, which means that I buy a lot of gadgets to make my complicated life simpler.
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#1009476 - 10/25/06 05:26 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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The film Impromptu is great fun (and I thought quite well cast!). I love the way that all you see of Hugh Grant's Chopin for quite some time is a pair of perfectly white gloves. But it is so, so inaccurate. There's another Chopin film called "Desire for Love". Again inaccurate but better than Impromptu from that point of view. The actor playing Chopin was drop-dead gorgeous; so much so that I tried to find out more about him on the internet and discovered that in reality he isn't attractive at all!

How superficial of me :-)
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#1009477 - 10/25/06 06:54 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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The actor playing Chopin was drop-dead gorgeous; so much so that I tried to find out more about him on the internet and discovered that in reality he isn't attractive at all!

How superficial of me :-)
That same actor, Piotr Adamczyk, is played Pope John Paul II in a Polish miniseries about him.
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#1009478 - 10/25/06 07:30 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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the actor who played in that one-man show "Monseiur Chopin" looks the way that chopin (should have, might have, could have, i wished that he may have) looked. ;\)

i was wondering if that theater company has any plans of taping that show and putting it out on a DVD. everywhere it appeared, it was a sold-out performance, which should give the "backers" an idea of making it a "movie."

desire for love was even worse. \:\( he was portrayed as a spoiled and selfish and not very likeable person. and this movie was, for the most part, made by and starred Poles. how could they do that to a national hero? i'd expect it from hollywood, but not from Poland.

at least in that old movie, (a song to remember) starring cornell wilde...(now that's a real stretch of the imagination) chopin's character was given some character. although the facts were really distorted, it wasn't painful to watch as were the other two. and, of course, the music was amazing, as were the scenery, sets and costumes.

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#1009479 - 10/25/06 08:01 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Kathleen, I read an interview with Hershey Felder, the actor in Monsieur Chopin. He said his biggest struggle in that production was keeping himself thin enough to play Chopin. Apparently he lost thirty pounds that he really didn't need to lose to make himself look as slight as he thought he needed to look. That's dedication. Like you, I pray they film it at some point. (They filmed Julie Harris' one woman show about Emily Dickinson, The Belle of Amherst.) I fear my hope of it coming to Atlanta is a very forlorn hope indeed. It's not like M. Chopin would be easy to recast and revive. You'd need a pianist who could act and was willing to starve himself from months into the bargain.

Re Impromptu and Chopin's white gloves: The costume designer for Impromptu actually had access to Chopin's tailor's records - imagine them still existing! and how I'd like to see them - so his clothing was absolutely authentic.
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#1009480 - 10/25/06 08:39 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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I know, it may be inappropriate, but I thought this was the "adult" beginner's forum. [/b]
If there were a kid's begginer forum i would go there. (13 year old here) I'

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#1009481 - 10/25/06 08:52 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Although not a central figure, a pianist figures large in The Man Who Wasn't There (2001). The movie as a movie is very good. Although the piano playing is deliberately not special, it does present the frustrating truth applicable to many piano parents (and adult beginners). Billy Bob Thornton plays the lead; I forget the actress playing the player.
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#1009482 - 10/26/06 11:33 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Frycek:

Thanks so much for that information. Yes, that was true dedication on the part of Mr. Felder to starve himself. I thought I read that he researched and studied for 2 years to play this part. Why would they have to get another actor? Wouldn't it be cheaper and more convenient to just film the play as it "plays" and sell the DVD (like they do from actual performances by many of the rock stars)? I bought one of these type of DVD's for my daughter for her birthday...Jimmy Buffet Live from Wigley Field.

I know he did Gershwin first and is going to do Beethoven next. I guess he'll have to pack on some pounds for that part. I am going to buy tickets for that performance. It's coming to Chicago in Feb. Maybe you can fly up for that...my treat!!

I just get so frustrated knowing that M. Chopin was playing in Chicago (so close)for so many months, and I knew nothing about it. \:\(

You've only just convinced me, once again, that you will HAVE to move up to Rockford and live with my husband and me because you are so great with research, and how I would love to listen to you "practice" for all the hours you do.

Of course, the commute to your jobs would be tough. Well then, I guess I'll just come down and move in with you!! ;\)

Thanks again and sorry that M. Chopin won't be coming your way. \:\(

Kathleen
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#1009483 - 10/26/06 02:10 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Frycek:

Wouldn't it be cheaper and more convenient to just film the play as it "plays" and sell the DVD (like they do from actual performances by many of the rock stars)? [/b]
I truly hope they do exactly that. Do you know if they ever filmed his Gershwin play? If they did that would be a good indication of their intentions.
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#1009484 - 10/26/06 03:43 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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No, I don't know. I don't even know who to contact for information or to suggest this idea. I guess I'll get on the internet and do some research.


I found a site that offers a 2 disc CD set of the play. I don't know if it's just the music or a recording of the whole performance. I am going to e-mail the address given and ask. I also sent a e-mail to the production company and suggested their doing DVD.

Anyhow, the site is Monsieur Chopin


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#1009485 - 10/26/06 04:01 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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I know, it may be inappropriate, but I thought this was the "adult" beginner's forum. [/b]
If there were a kid's begginer forum i would go there. (13 year old here) I' [/b]
AFAIK, if you demonstrate appropriate decorum and treat others here with respect, and from what I've read here you do that, then you are welcome here, whether you are 13 or 130.
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#1009486 - 10/26/06 04:04 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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I may not be addressing the subject of piano movies directly, but I've always enjoyed watching the piano played by Chico Marx. Watching him "shoot" that upper key always gives me a laugh.
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#1009487 - 10/26/06 04:18 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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I don't remember Chico ever playing serious tune
or seriously..but Harpo always did..I guess he couldn't play funny on a harp! Bob

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#1009488 - 10/26/06 04:35 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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I would like the movie "Ray" if it had less sex and more music...
but im 13, and what do i know...
DeBussy20,

Are you sure you are 13?
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#1009489 - 10/27/06 12:00 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Here's my favorite piano movie :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91xsLS3us-0

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#1009490 - 10/27/06 04:49 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Gosh...eternal,

you have a unique sense of humor. \:\(

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#1009491 - 10/27/06 05:34 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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That was surreal Eternal!! Is there a list anyone could compile please, of those fab movies which contain piano and / or anything to do with piano? I have just bought Amadeus from my local shop, and am so looking forward to watching it. Some of the others mentioned, I cannot find, eg Con Amore, Fantasia (unless you mean 'Disney' ugh), and Madame Sousatzka, please advise. Thanks, Shey
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#1009492 - 10/27/06 07:18 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Here's my favorite piano movie :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91xsLS3us-0 [/b]
Well, that's one way to get rid of those unwanted piano-shaped objects we hear tale of in these forums. \:\)

That clip also reminded me of a truly classic piano movie: Laurel and Hardy's Oscar-winning The Music Box . (I should say that the movie is certainly not famous for how anyone played the piano in it, LOL.) There's a clip on the "Film Clips" page at that site.
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#1009493 - 10/30/06 07:52 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Amadeus was fabulous! I loved it. I am so looking forward to getting other piano movies for Christmas. Thanks to this thread I have a list now! Shey
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#1009494 - 10/30/06 08:04 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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I’ve just remembered a really dire film about Chopin called “The Mystery of Chopin – the Strange Case of Delphina Potocka” (1999). Has anyone else seen this? Its credentials are quite good – the director is Tony Palmer and the lead actors are Paul Rhys and Penelope Wilton. There’s also a young Russian pianist called Valentina Igoshina. But it is truly dreadful. Paul Rhys looks wrong, has a Welsh accent and portrays Chopin unconvincingly. In fact the whole story is based on a fabrication and apart (of course) from the music it is ghastly. Be warned!

I am wondering if there is any other composer who has had so many films made about him.
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#1009495 - 10/30/06 08:06 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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I’ve just remembered a really dire film about Chopin called “The Mystery of Chopin – the Strange Case of Delphina Potocka” (1999). Has anyone else seen this? Its credentials are quite good – the director is Tony Palmer and the lead actors are Paul Rhys and Penelope Wilton. There’s also a young Russian pianist called Valentina Igoshina. But it is truly dreadful. Paul Rhys looks wrong, has a Welsh accent and portrays Chopin unconvincingly. In fact the whole story is based on a fabrication and apart (of course) from the music it is ghastly. Be warned!

I am wondering if there is any other composer who has had so many films made about him.
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#1009496 - 10/30/06 09:03 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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We had a discussion of “The Mystery of Chopin – the Strange Case of Delphina Potocka” on the Pianist Corner awhile ago. We came to the conclusion that there's not an edition available compatible with our VHS players in the States. I have no idea if it's on DVD or not. As Mary Rose, said it's all based on a fabriction, one that would probably make a good movie in itself. Incidentally, the fradulant Potocka letters were largely responsible for the notion that Chopin had nothing but contempt for Lizst and contributed to the notion that he was notably antisemitic.

A link to the original thread:
http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/10039/2.html

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Re Delphine/Chopin - In 1945, Pauline Czernicka, a Polish music scholar of dubious repute came up with some letters allegedly written by Chopin to Delphine Potocka. They were sexually crude and explicit and sounded completely out of character to anyone who had read Chopin's authentic letters. Delphine was a Polish society lady separated from her husband and living in Paris. Chopin was discretely reputed in the Polish exile community to have been Delphine's lover at the time he was frequenting her salon (pre George Sand). Neither of them ever denied it. They may well have been lovers, certainly they were fond of each other and good friends. Delphine was an excellent musician. Delphine eventually left Paris in an attempt to reconcile with her husband and that was the end of the affair (if there was one). Years later Delphine came and sang for Chopin on his deathbed. The majority of the letters (actually only photographed copies - the letters themselves were never produced) were later conclusively proven to be forgeries but not before they had found their way into a couple of otherwise respectable biographies. They are now floating about on the Net with no caveats attached for the unwary. Only one fragment, the only one that sounded remotely characteristic of Chopin, and with no sexual content was judged to be authentic. It was decided that Pauline Czernicka, who faded further into the woodwork with each implausible tale she told, had actually discovered some genuine but very fragmented Chopin letters and had used those pieces and a lot of trick photography to come up with the scandalous sexual bits. The actual fragments she used for her fabrications are now lost.

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#1009497 - 10/30/06 09:29 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Frycek, thanks for that elucidation. I'm sorry that I repeated something that has already been discussed \:o ( I'm quite new to this forum and in future I'll do a "search" first. I only just noticed the search function! It's 2am here in the UK but I've been up with my dog who hates fireworks (it's nearly Guy Fawkes Night).

BTW I have a DVD of the film and I think it's suitable for US players - I got it from Amazon.
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#1009498 - 10/30/06 09:39 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Mary Rose, please don't apologize. I certainly didn't mean to imply that we'd had enough of Delphina. In fact, this is only the second time she or those very audacious forgeries have ever come up. Everything of any import or interest gets discussed here at least a few dozen times (rather like the cycle of readings for Mass). That bit was buried in another piano movie thread, very similar to this one except different people got to contribute. Of course, there was some duplication of information but so what? Some of us are such slow subjects a bit of repetition is all to the good. Besides we owe to to Chopin to denounce those forgeries every opportunity we get (which is what I was doing.)
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#1009499 - 10/31/06 12:21 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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#1009500 - 10/31/06 06:49 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Although not a central figure, a pianist figures large in The Man Who Wasn't There (2001). The movie as a movie is very good. Although the piano playing is deliberately not special, it does present the frustrating truth applicable to many piano parents (and adult beginners). Billy Bob Thornton plays the lead; I forget the actress playing the player. [/b]
That would be Scarlet Johanson playing the Adagio Cantabile from Beethoven´s Pathetique quite a few times during the movie...altough i feel no special presence from the piano part of the movie, it is a very good movie.
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#1009501 - 10/31/06 07:03 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Frycek, I know you weren't trying to make me feel bad! It's just that, after a lifetime of not knowing ANYONE who appreciates Chopin properly, I'm still in "apologetic trying not to be a bore" mode. It's a novelty to me to actually be able to express my adoration of him amongst like-minded people, without being teased or moaned at:-)

As for the Polish woman who originated the Potocka forgeries, I tend to think she was deranged rather than evil.

There is one website that takes the forgeries seriously, along with a lot of other trumped-up "evidence" that Chopin was depraved - which is the last adjective that could be applied to him. I'll give details of that website on the "devoted to Chopin" thread as it's almost amusing, if you've not come across it already.
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#1009502 - 10/31/06 08:24 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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And another thing, Mary Rose, you're the only one here who's actually seen the movie, Frederyk the Welshman and all. Thanks for the warning.
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#1009503 - 10/31/06 09:53 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Is it worth my while to try to buy this movie? If only for its absurdities.

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#1009504 - 10/31/06 10:16 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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"Is it worth my while to try to buy this movie?" asks Kathleen.

I suppose it would be if you are a "completist" but it really isn't enjoyable at all, and wouldn't add anything to your knowledge of Himself.
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#1009505 - 11/03/06 06:05 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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A movie called 'Cloned' was just on t.v here. The plot wasn't promising...a famous concert pianist clones herself when she learns of a terminal illness.

However, it was actually quite a good movie (w/subtitles). Probably because the stars of the show were 9ft Bosendorfers - the piano(s!) featured largely.

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#1009506 - 11/04/06 08:48 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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I was wondering if anyone has heard of a movie with Richter in it as Lizst? I read a book about Richter and it has a picture of him and in the caption it says he is playing Lizst and the movie is call Glinka. Can't find it anywhere.

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#1009507 - 11/04/06 09:54 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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I'm going to chime in with "The Legend of 1900" also. Good pieces throughout.

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#1009508 - 11/05/06 02:41 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Did I overlook anyone mentioning The George Gershwin story starring Robert Alda? It also had Oscar Levant in it.
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#1009509 - 11/05/06 09:32 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Immortal Beloved is my fave so far, then Amadeus. The music from the Pianist was beautiful, but the rest of the movie made me nauseous.

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#1009510 - 11/05/06 10:06 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Mine would be a tie between "The Pianist" and "The Piano". They were two very emotional movies.
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#1009511 - 11/06/06 01:07 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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What is it about The Legend of 1900 that makes it so good? Is there a lot of playing? If all of you think it is worth seeing, I'm going to rent it from Netflix.

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#1009512 - 11/06/06 01:14 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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What is it about The Legend of 1900 that makes it so good? Is there a lot of playing? If all of you think it is worth seeing, I'm going to rent it from Netflix.

Kathleen [/b]
It's the piano duel between the protagonist and Jelly Roll Morton. It will make you sweat.
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#1009513 - 11/07/06 10:23 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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How about The Fabulous Baker Boys. Although, not a great movie, it did show some of the problems in working as a pianist.
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#1009514 - 11/07/06 10:53 AM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Hi Kathleen -

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What is it about The Legend of 1900 that makes it so good
... that's easy - Ennio Morricone!

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#1009515 - 11/09/06 04:50 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Jet Li "Unleashed"

A bit of a fight club movie, but I liked Mogan Freeman's role as a blind piano tuner.
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#1009516 - 11/13/06 03:38 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Originally posted by JerryG:
Did I overlook anyone mentioning The George Gershwin story starring Robert Alda? It also had Oscar Levant in it. [/b]
No, I was just looking for that one myself to see if anyone had mentioned it, and we're the first.

Another one nobody mentioned is "The 5000 Fingers of Dr. T." Just as well -- I have tried to watch that movie several times when it has been on TV, and I have never been able to stay awake for the whole thing. I end up falling asleep.

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#1009517 - 11/18/06 01:10 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Balladeer:

Although I've never heard of Ennio Morricone, I did order the movie.

If it isn't good, I am going to find out where you live and haunt you with Lawrence Welk music. \:D


As anyone here ever seen "The World of Henry Orient" starring Peter Sellers? Not much music in it, but Sellers plays a bumbling, narcissistic concert pianist who considers himself quite a ladies man. Two teenage girls, having a crush on him, stalk him mercilessly between buildings and under beds.

Sellers was one of the all-time great comic actors, and he just is so perfect in this movie.

Kathleen
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#1009518 - 11/18/06 09:30 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Ennio Morricone ..Clint Eastwood Spagetti Westerns
Fistful of Dollars, For A few Dollars More, Good Bad An The Ugly...

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#1009519 - 11/19/06 01:24 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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Sorry, I just jumped to the end of this endless thread because yesterday when I went to bed it occurred to me that I had indeed seen a Piano movie when I thought I hadn't - it is Ray Charles. This movie is just fantastic, and the bonus material on my DVD showed how it was made when Ray Charles was still alive, he actually tought the actor (brilliant, deserved his oscar triple and quadruple) how he played (and the actor is an accomplished pianist). Really worth while! (and sorry if it was mentioned before, but I just did not have the time to read the entire thread.

Patty
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#1009520 - 11/19/06 02:01 PM Re: What is your favorite piano movie?
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One of my favourite films which heavily features a piano, albeit including lots of other instruments, is Buena Vista Social Club. To see the ancient fingers of Ruben Gonzales come out of retirement and overcome their rheumatism to produce exciting, rhythmic music is a joy.
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