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Thanks for the explanation on the 2nd pattern, I had the same question. I was wondering how I was going to cram 10 eighth notes into a measure. Thought it was following the 1st pattern you described. So, you could extend the pattern to all eighths like (over Am7):
E C E G B B G E (up)
or
B G E C E C B G (down)

deeluk, it's party time! 1000th post on the Jazz thread and you had the special honor! Yay!

Hah! Wow, pretty amazing when you think about it. What has it been, around 3 months? 'Course it had to be my thick-headed wondering about arp patterns. Maybe I should edit it and ask something deep about Mehldau's style or something?

Hey Deeluk, Congratulations on #1000! Those arp patterns are part of the "Bill Evans Exercise". It's going to make us all sound like him. Very appropriate post.

Gang, here's my Evans 8th arps.

http://www.box.net/shared/rz5l78wg8k

Hope you can hear the accent on the offbeat!

Rosa, I heard those accents loud and clear.

NICE WORK!

Rosa,

Nice job!!! I haven't had the chance to try it yet on my piano but now I'm anxious to try it!!!

GREAT!!! Now I know I am on the right track.

While working on this offbeat accent, I am venturing onto a new song.

All the things you are -- LH 1/7 and RH 3rds:
http://www.box.net/shared/xf1zkank8c

The following is Shell voicing:
http://www.box.net/shared/y8i8r0mg4s

I am noticing the 2-5's now. This one has 2-5's every other measure. Does it mean that it's chaging key all the time?

I wonder if I can do Evans 8ths arps on this song. If so, then I have 2 songs to practise the accent.

For those of you that requested a pix:

Beatrice Inga Evelyn Bell

Btw: nice work everyone! I'm impressed!

Chris - I log on to the thread and see a picture of a little angel. She is beautiful - and such long piano fingers! Looks like she's trying for a chord in her right hand.

Congratulations once again!

Rosa - You are on quite a roll. Everything sounds wonderful. I say - go for those arps on your new song.

Oh Chris...she is a DARLING. Looks like her RH will be able to reach a 12th eventually.

So Barb...go for it eh? OK..I will give it a try.

Chris,
She's precious - congrats!

Rosa,
Yes, go for it. Don't just try, do it!

Jazzwee - Question
Arping up on first chord and back down again using the second chord using the first chord 9th as a pivot, stopping the arp on the common of the second and third and going back up again using the third chord to it's 9th as a pivot, etc. Has my head exploded?

Now we're talkin' Rosa! You've got it. Just work on making this a habit at all tempos.

Good job here Rosa. I can teach you more stuff to play this in a more sophisticated way for solo piano. But first, the changes are not the same. Maybe you picked up the chords from a different source, not a Real Book?

The first chords should be
Fm7, Bbm7, EbM7, AbM7...

Let's make sure first that we're using the standard chords. Then, on the LH, play 1,5 only, on the RH play 3 7 3. On the RH, you will play the melody on the pinky, which will mostly be a 3 and will match the thumb. The 7 is played by finger 1.

On each ii/V, the roles will reverse as you move the 7 a half step down from playing a ii chord, you will end up with 7 3 7 on the V chord. The only motion will be the 7 moving down a half step to the 3 of the new chord.

The left hand continues playing 1/5. Then when you have the confidence, you can expand this to 1/5/9.

This is very full sounding for solo piano. If you're soloing with this you can revert to shells again 1/7 on the LH. Shells work with this tune because the melody is almost always on the 3rd of the chord. So this is one of the better examples of good application of shell voicings.

I may refer to "All the things..." as ATTTYA for short cut I really think this is an important tune to learn for jazz.

Congrats for starting this.

She's a Beautiful baby Chris! Yes I can see those pianist fingers already

Woody, no need to be over mathematical my friend. You start on the 3rd and you have at your disposable a stream of 8 notes. Depending on how you choose to play it, you can take the whole 8 notes to attack a full measure chord.

But remember that this is only an exercise. What I'd like to see is actually this being used in a solo. For a beginner, this could be the solo. In fact you could just change it around a little, repeat the notes, go opposite directions, and turn some notes into quarter notes.

So beyond being an exercise, it is not intended to pass a strict rule, since there isn't one. But it is a heck of a practical way to learn to solo.

Thanks for those kind words everyone! Yes she has my fingers, so a 12th in both hands like Dad should not be a problem. I'll get back to you after she starts with Hanon next week.

All The Things You Are - is a fun tune to learn and work through. I'll happily join in later. Once I get my studio and keyboards to the other side of the flat.

Beautiful baby there Chris! Congrats.