Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

Trying Something New with Search
(ad)
Calculator Looks Like Piano Keyboard
Calculator that looks like a piano keyboard
Piano Keyboard Calculator

New in the Piano World online store (PianoSupplies.com) now.
(ad)
Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Buyers Guide
Who's Online
106 registered (Bellicapelli, bennevis, Blues beater, Ben_NZ, 26 invisible), 1399 Guests and 7 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#1025379 - 01/05/09 04:19 PM Ideas above my station
Crippy Offline
Full Member

Registered: 01/01/09
Posts: 31
Loc: Leeds UK
Hello everybody and best wishes for 2009.

One month ago I bought a Clavinova Clp 330. I have absolutely no prior musical experience.

At the moment I'm self teaching. I've been doing all the beginners type exercises learning to read, scales, bits of Hanon etc. Many of the basic pieces are so "plinky plonky" and uninspiring that I've started to work on Moonlight Sonata 1st movement.

You won't be surprised to find that I've hit a snag fairly early on and I feel if I can get over this hurdle I can progress a bit further.

I've done a search but my results didn't help much. I'm sorry if this has been adequately covered before.

This is the problem. 5th bar. The music shows two g# played simultaneously then middle c# is played and then e# + g# which appear on the stave as being slightly offset from each other. When I listen to a recording of the piece it sounds like the g# is being played separately.

Am I right? Can anybody please explain in very simple terms the sequence of my finger movements for this part (similar patterns occur afterwards)

Thanks for your help and advice.

Chris

Top
(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#1025380 - 01/05/09 06:11 PM Re: Ideas above my station
packa Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 02/05/05
Posts: 1406
Loc: Dallas, TX
The second G# is played slightly after the E (not E#). This is a simple polyrhythm: a triplet played against a dotted eighth and sixteenth. The notation indicates this by offsetting the second G# just a bit from the third note of the triplet.

I'm not sure what you mean by the sequence of finger movements. Is it the rhythm or notation that is confusing, or are you asking about the actual fingers to use? (I use 1-2-3 to play the triplet and 5 to play the G#, both in the RH of course).
_________________________
Paul Buchanan
Estonia L168 #1718

Top
#1025381 - 01/06/09 12:44 PM Re: Ideas above my station
Crippy Offline
Full Member

Registered: 01/01/09
Posts: 31
Loc: Leeds UK
Thank you for your help and advice. I'll persevere a little longer.

Regards

Chris

Top
#1025382 - 01/07/09 12:04 PM Re: Ideas above my station
Ken S. Offline
Full Member

Registered: 02/15/08
Posts: 87
Loc: North Carolina
I applaud your ambition. Noah Adams, a US radio personality, wrote a book (Piano Lessons) about his year learning Scuhmann's Traumerei as an adult novice pianist.

If you are looking for satisfying, easy pieces, there are countless beginner to intermediate level compilations of masterworks from baroque to early 20th century composers.

Good luck with your studies.

Top

Moderator:  BB Player, casinitaly 
What's Hot!!
Piano Summit 2017 - Join Us!
along with Chick Corea, Jonathan Cain, David Rosenthal, Set Rudetsky, Ray Chew, Onree Gill ...
-------------------
Why Do YOU Play the Piano?
-------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

-------------------
Piano Classified Ads
Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
(ad)
Pianist Magazine
Pianist Magazine - Helping you become a better player
(ad)
Defining National Piano Schools
Defining National Piano Schools
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ads)
PD - WNG - MH
PianoDisc
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Strings
by pianoloverus
19 minutes 17 seconds ago
RIP Einojuhani Rautavaara
by Nikolas
53 minutes 49 seconds ago
Piano teacher/player "lineage" - does it matter?
by Pianodao
Today at 08:35 AM
Question about time signatures
by A7x
Today at 03:37 AM
Summer Piano Practice Challenge
by Medden
Today at 02:09 AM
Forum Stats
84,456 Registered Members
44 Forums
174,202 Topics
2,543,859 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
Sheet Music Plus (125)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2016 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission