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#1029920 - 11/28/07 12:00 AM Re: Where Amazing Happens
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Registered: 10/10/07
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Yeah that was the best video of this song I have seen yet. IMO anyway.

UM I need to go practice!!
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#1029921 - 11/28/07 11:08 AM Re: Where Amazing Happens
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Wow... she really did an outstanding job. It's funny, in a way, because I think a piano teacher would have a hissy fit over her posture/form (her thighs weren't level, her forearms *definitely* weren't, and her shoulders looked all scrunched up with tension), yet... she played beautifully! Which only goes to show that maybe it's not all that important to have the proper form...

I've only been able to practice 10-15 minutes each of the past few days. Very frustrating!!!! [I wonder if I would get in trouble if I canceled class to go home and play? Yeah, probably... but only if any of the students complained... \:D ]

p.s. enel80, you are right about "everyday" being reminiscent of the Truman Steps piece. But you did my sheet music addiction no favors by showing me that link, with the link inside it to the pianothemes website. I have printed out yet another 2-inch stack of sheet music to learn!!
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#1029922 - 11/28/07 01:58 PM Re: Where Amazing Happens
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Registered: 10/28/04
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Hey Monica,

I've also wondered if there isn't just a little too much emphasis placed on technique by teachers. For example, have you ever seen some of the recording of Horowitz?? I think that just about any teacher would go insane if one of their students played with that technique, but they would be extremely proud of a student who could sound so brilliant.

I beleive that so called "correct" technique is just a starting point and that we each have to find what's best for our own physiology. Since the vast majority of us will not play for several hours, day-after-day then we have little risk of injury so that excuse doesn't fly.

Off my soap box now.

BTW:

I liked this piece but I did find it a bit repetative. Worked VERY well for the NBA short though!!

Rodney

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#1029923 - 11/28/07 03:48 PM Re: Where Amazing Happens
Betty Patnude Offline
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Registered: 06/11/07
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Loc: Puyallup, Washington
Your comments are interesting to me:

Monica says: "It's funny, in a way, because I think a piano teacher would have a hissy fit over her posture/form (her thighs weren't level, her forearms *definitely* weren't, and her shoulders looked all scrunched up with tension), yet... she played beautifully! Which only goes to show that maybe it's not all that important to have the proper form..."

Rodney says: "I've also wondered if there isn't just a little too much emphasis placed on technique by teachers. For example, have you ever seen some of the recording of Horowitz?? I think that just about any teacher would go insane if one of their students played with that technique, but they would be extremely proud of a student who could sound so brilliant."

I beleive that so called "correct" technique is just a starting point and that we each have to find what's best for our own physiology. Since the vast majority of us will not play for several hours, day-after-day then we have little risk of injury so that excuse doesn't fly."

Betty says: Now the use of the words posture, technique, position are different things here, I'm qualifying it by description and trying not to label it as positive or negative, but from a teacher's viewpoint, it certainly will be different from others viewpoints.

Please let's give this a "trial" or a "try-it" by going to our pianos and affecting the posture we saw in the video.

That was a chosen posture, I believe. How does YOUR body feel when playing music in that position? How long does it take before you are tired or hurting? The pianist is youthful, slim, petite, feminine.

She is playing repetitious movements, not leaping about the piano. Her range of dynamics is fairly steady (until I turned it off, that is). The piano is very adequate and has a nice timbre. The room setting is lovely. The performer absolutely loves to play piano and gives it great thought and preparation to what works best for her. She starts with a dropped jaw which makes me think she studies (studied) with a performance type of teacher past the intermediate level. I think she probably affects different postures for the kind of music she plays.

I agree with Rodney when he says "I beleieve that so called "correct" technique is just a starting point and that we each have to find what's best for our own physiology." Yes, and for the era of the music, the composer's style and characteristics of his music, the condition of the piano. and the size and acoustics of the room we are performning in. It is all taken into account.

The most important thing is to prevent reoccuring injuries. You may not be aware of the problems building up until one fine day, there you are facing a physical or neurological obstacle because of a habit you have. And, it does not take a long time of practice to do injury.

One of the things I think I noticed in this video was her moving her left hand up and to the right in a fast, abrupt move only to move it again to the left. It seems to be a habit with no reason. Try that movement, too, when you are giving these postures a trial.

Technique is all about chosen touch and mannerisms to get the sound, effect, volume, duration as notated on the music page by the composer. It is also about fitting your body and being into a choreography (dance) upon and into the keyboard that produces those glorious tones.

It is not just about hitting the right keys however many times I have read that.

While she did a nice playing of it, a teacher would hear and put so many more possibilities into that playing. And, they would want for their students to "see" these possibilities too.

It takes the human instrument played well to produce an outstanding performance.

This is a different side of the coin, isn't it.

Each person plays according to their understanding and ability. Many are still growing and goaling. Music is a lifelong path - we should always be learning along that path.

Respectfully,

Betty

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