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#1040142 - 10/17/08 08:17 AM Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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Go live date October 17, 2009

THE LIST so far:


1. 9/1 - Frycek
2. 9/2 - Yuri
3. 9/3 - sotto voce
4. 15/1 - Horowitzian
5. 15/2 - ted stanion
6. 15/3 - smjl
7. 27/1 - Piano Again
8. 27/2 - Chardonnay
9. 32/1 - Schubertian
10. 32/2 - Liszt Addict
11. 37/1 - Chopinet
12. 37/2 - gerg
13. 48/1 - Jazzyprof
14. 48/2 - Elene
15. 55/1 - Phlebas
16. 55/2 - sotto voce
17. 62/1 - carolyn227
18. 62/2 - Chopin952
19. 72/1 - Peyton

20. C# minor (op. posth., 1830; Lento con gran espression) - pianoluvr
21. C minor (op. posth., 1837) - Mati
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#1040143 - 10/17/08 08:33 AM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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I think people had "dibs" on some others as well. I would love to do 27/2, but I think Soto Vocce has that one.
I would like to claim 55-1.

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#1040144 - 10/17/08 08:35 AM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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Chardonnay 27/2
jazzyprof 48/1
Phlebas 55/1
sotto voce 55/2
chopin952 62/2

(Elene and gerg: I didn't list you because you seemed tentative. Go for it!)

Steven
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Chopin: Allegro de Concert Op. 46
Schumann: Toccata Op. 7
Fauré: Ballade Op. 19

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#1040145 - 10/17/08 08:57 AM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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Thanks, Phlebas & Steven
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#1040146 - 10/17/08 08:59 AM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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I would love to do 27/2, but I think Soto Vocce has that one.
I "claimed" this one right off the bat, in fact I started the claiming process!
I'm not saying that I would do the best job on it, but the timing would be perfect, given that I am working on it now. Sotto Voce, thanks for accurately updating the list!
If someone wishes to back me up, that would be fine- a year is a long time, you never know what will happen.

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#1040147 - 10/17/08 09:04 AM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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I wonder if it might be a good idea for people to volunteer for backup, or to have an "interest pool" so that potential participants who don't have a clear-cut choice can express their interest and decide amongst themselves?

Steven
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Chopin: Allegro de Concert Op. 46
Schumann: Toccata Op. 7
Fauré: Ballade Op. 19

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#1040148 - 10/17/08 09:05 AM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Chardonnay:
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I would love to do 27/2, but I think Soto Vocce has that one.
I "claimed" this one right off the bat, in fact I started the claiming process!
I'm not saying that I would do the best job on it, but the timing would be perfect, given that I am working on it now. Sotto Voce, thanks for accurately updating the list!
If someone wishes to back me up, that would be fine- a year is a long time, you never know what will happen. [/b]
Sorry, my bad. I just misspoke. Godspeed on 27/2. \:\)

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#1040149 - 10/17/08 09:10 AM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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Sorry, my bad. I just misspoke. Godspeed on 27/2
No worries, didn't mean to over-react. ;\)

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#1040150 - 10/17/08 09:38 AM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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Is 21 in C Minor (op. posth.) available? I would love to take it!

I have already done 20 in C# Minor (op. posthumous), but the whole point is to master something new, isn't it \:\) I can possibly do a backup of this one, even last minute, as I keep it polished all the time. I guess Peyton could to, he plays it better than I do \:D


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#1040151 - 10/17/08 10:41 AM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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Oh no not a Nocturne one . . . something else please!
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#1040152 - 10/17/08 11:28 AM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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I would go for the op.37/1 but I don't actually know how a recital is going to work.

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#1040153 - 10/17/08 11:33 AM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Chopinet:
I would go for the op.37/1 but I don't actually know how a recital is going to work. [/b]
All you do is email your recording (most people use a zoom but one used a utube link) to MaryRose as an attachment and she takes care of the rest. We haven't decided when this is to take place - probably Oct 2009.
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#1040154 - 10/17/08 01:06 PM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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OK, 9/1 taken - I'll take 9/2 then
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#1040155 - 10/17/08 03:23 PM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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You folks go ahead.

I don't think I'll be taking any new projects until I can play 25/6 properly.
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#1040156 - 10/17/08 05:02 PM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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 Quote:
Originally posted by gerg:
You folks go ahead.

I don't think I'll be taking any new projects until I can play 25/6 properly. [/b]
Greg, I wrote this today in the etudes discussion thread:
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Are they ever not works in progress?

A PW member named Late Beginner observed very wisely that our relationship with the music we play is different from the enjoyment that comes from a book or any other pastime that has a finite finish and is then put down. Musical compositions offer ongoing friendship, in which we continually find something new and to which we bring new ideas of our own with each visit.
So don't be silly, okay? The etudes are lifelong projects!

You do so beautifully with the lyrical as well as the flashy; you really should choose a nocturne to showcase that sensitivity.

Just my two cents ... but I certainly do hope you'll decide to participate after all.

Steven
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Chopin: Allegro de Concert Op. 46
Schumann: Toccata Op. 7
Fauré: Ballade Op. 19

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#1040157 - 10/17/08 05:37 PM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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 Quote:
Originally posted by YD:
OK, 9/1 taken - I'll take 9/2 then [/b]
Yuri, I apologize. I've been informed that you requested 9/1 first so of course it's yours.
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#1040158 - 10/17/08 05:54 PM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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That's no problem; I like 9/2 almost as much :-)
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#1040159 - 10/17/08 07:16 PM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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Thank you Steven. I appreciate that.

Would be quite happy to perform 37/2 in a year.

Does anyone else want 37/2, or want to learn it?
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#1040160 - 10/17/08 10:57 PM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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Great! Thanks Frycek for starting the thread. I got the one I wanted. Yay! The deadline serves as a great motivator. The year will go by fast once again.

I played 27/2 at the Lisitsa Master Class in DC this past March. I got some great pointers from her. She is so wonderful at conveying her ideas with analogies and gestures. Chardonnay, If you need some secondhand insight, let me know!

gerg. Thanks for staying on board. 37/2 is famous and beautiful.
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#1040161 - 10/17/08 11:38 PM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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Chardonnay, If you need some secondhand insight, let me know!
I will most certainly take you up on that! \:\)
For starters, I am struggling with that 48 note measure near the end.. how to make it fast AND even-

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#1040162 - 10/17/08 11:39 PM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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is there just one specific composer we must stick to or are we able to broaden the net?

Zac
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#1040163 - 10/17/08 11:45 PM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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 Quote:
Originally posted by zp3929:
is there just one specific composer we must stick to or are we able to broaden the net?

Zac [/b]
Zac, the reason and the purpose of the event are to celebrate and commemorate Chopin. I'm not sure it would be appropriate to include compositions by anybody else, even though there are other interesting nocturnes out there to be sure. (Do you remember the thread earlier this year called "Favorite nocturnes not by Chopin"?)

Steven
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Chopin: Allegro de Concert Op. 46
Schumann: Toccata Op. 7
Fauré: Ballade Op. 19

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#1040164 - 10/17/08 11:47 PM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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thanks for clearing that up steven, i haven't been to the ABF for a while and have missed much

Zac
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#1040165 - 10/17/08 11:50 PM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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No worries! When I read your inquiry, I realized that someone who saw this thread title but didn't know that it comes right on the heels of a Chopin etudes event (which reached fruition today) wouldn't automatically know that it concerned Chopin at all.

Steven
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Chopin: Allegro de Concert Op. 46
Schumann: Toccata Op. 7
Fauré: Ballade Op. 19

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#1040166 - 10/18/08 12:02 AM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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I actually floated an idea of "concert etudes" recital several times. This would not be limited to Chopin; I suggested including Liszt, Scriabin, Rachmaninov, etc. - anybody who wrote concert etudes (e.g. not Czerny). The purpose would be to have a goal toward which we would work and in the process gain valuable skills.

Here I am floating the idea again. Concert etudes anybody? I would play something by Scriabin - I think he is undeservedly under-appreciated here...
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#1040167 - 10/18/08 12:07 AM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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that sounds like a great idea, i'm working on some bortkiewicz etudes that would work perfectly
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#1040168 - 10/18/08 03:29 AM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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I'd love to hear a concert etudes recital but why don't you do it on Pianist Corner and invite us lot over there?
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#1040169 - 10/18/08 05:18 AM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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ask and you shall recieve \:\)
all come over and join in on the thread, we're all new to this over there
http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/19241.html

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#1040170 - 10/18/08 05:30 AM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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Zac: there are quarterly ABF recitals (next in November this year) with no restrictions in its contents whatsoever. Feel invited to participate there too! The title of this particular thread could be mislading at first, I agree. Now it's certainly not \:\) Thanks for bringing it up.

YD: Under-appreciated, but incredibly beautiful and quite manageable at our skill level - I agree. I love Scriabin. I don't feel I am able to do any of Concert Etudes yet, so I'll pass. I would love to listen to them however!


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#1040171 - 10/18/08 03:37 PM Re: Time to Check IN - Chopin Nocturnes Recital Claim l(Octobe7, 2009
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Chardonnay:
I will most certainly take you up on that! \:\)
For starters, I am struggling with that 48 note measure near the end.. how to make it fast AND even- [/b]
Hey Chardonnay!

That measure is what gives this Nocturne its touch of flurry and grace. The best way I've found to practice it is definitely slowly, on the beat, and without the left hand. Don't try to combine the LH until you have it committed to memory and can play it almost blind folded.

The goal, I believe, is to play it at tempo without disturbances aside from taking a tiny breath at the top of the run, such that the LH continues its stroll uninterrupted.

Love that Nocturne. It is definitely one of the most beautiful.
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