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#1051951 - 01/10/05 04:52 AM Motzart. Sonata in A technique
HadynFan Offline
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Registered: 01/05/05
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Loc: Australia
I was wondering if any of you have any tips to help me master the second "section" of Motzart's sonata in A. When you have to roll the bass how do you achieve some sort of continuity? I find that I pause and get the chord right then am fine until the next set when I line up my hands...roll the chord...keep going until I hit the next lot.
The double octaves are fine but the whole section sounds terrible when I try to play it because the timing is all out so I just go on to something else. Is persistence simply the key?


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#1051952 - 01/10/05 06:26 PM Re: Motzart. Sonata in A technique
Jerry Luke Offline
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I'd like to be able to help, but I am still making my way through Alfred's Book 1. Now, if you need any help with 'On Top of Old Smokey', then I might be able to assist. Then again, I might not be able to. \:D
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#1051953 - 01/12/05 07:42 AM Re: Motzart. Sonata in A technique
Luckychwee Offline
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\:D Hey Jerry the mouse !!! You are really the best joker here

But wait a min HadynFan, just be a little patience and Jerry will be able to help as he learn real fast
An apple a day keep the doctor away,
A smile a day chase your sadness away,
A chat a day drive all loneliness away,
And a prayer a day never keep our Jesus away
And let's praise our Lord, our King, our God all the way ....

#1051954 - 01/12/05 07:50 AM Re: Motzart. Sonata in A technique
Siddhartha Offline
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You start by learning to spell Mozart. The rest will fall into place ;\)
I was born the year Glenn Gould stop playing concerts. Coincidence?

#1051955 - 01/12/05 10:10 AM Re: Motzart. Sonata in A technique
Jerry Luke Offline
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Originally posted by Luckychwee:
\:D Hey Jerry the mouse !!! You are really the best joker here [/b]
Thanks, Lucky! This is a tough crowd. Markb is quicker on the retorts than I am, however. Learning the piano can be stressful, so it's fun to inject some humor, just like siddhartha did in the post above. \:\)
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#1051956 - 01/13/05 05:25 AM Re: Motzart. Sonata in A technique
animato Offline
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Registered: 01/12/05
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Loc: Sydney Australia
Hi \:\)

Im assuming we are talking about sonata in A major ? because he also wrote a sonata in A minor. and your second section? you mean the variation number 2? or the second movement?

#1051957 - 01/13/05 08:22 AM Re: Motzart. Sonata in A technique
Rockitman Offline
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Registered: 12/30/04
Posts: 284
Loc: Central Calif
It sounds like he is talking about the last movement of the Sonata, (Alla Turca).

Is that right HadynFan?

#1051958 - 01/13/05 12:45 PM Re: Motzart. Sonata in A technique
Adagiolady Offline
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Registered: 05/30/04
Posts: 103
Loc: Washington State
Originally posted by Rockitman:
It sounds like he is talking about the last movement of the Sonata, (Alla Turca).

Is that right HadynFan? [/b]
I think so too. Those rolls are the "drum rolls". There's no secret, just slow practice to get you "footing" and then learning to play them up to speed.
Grave - Allegro di molto e con brio!

#1051959 - 01/14/05 03:14 PM Re: Motzart. Sonata in A technique
Nina Offline
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Registered: 08/13/01
Posts: 6467
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Originally posted by Siddhartha:
You start by learning to spell Mozart. The rest will fall into place ;\) [/b]
Ditto for Haydn. \:\)

If it's the Rondo alla Turk your'e talking about, one tip is to play only the octaves of the rolled bass until you're used to quickly moving from the As to the Ds, D#s and Es, then back to As. Once you can do that easily, you just "fill in" the chord. Last step is to finally add the roll to the chord.

The general idea is to reduce the task until you can do it, then keep adding parts back in as you get comfortable with each step.


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