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#1054395 - 12/26/08 06:24 PM
3 questions from an amateur
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Registered: 12/26/08
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hi all great forum !! I'am 25 revisiting the piano after about 15 years of absence. I am charmed by classical music. Now, I have downloaded tons of learning books – here in the middle east you can do this , and practice every day for about 2 hours. I am doing this for 3 months now.
For starters , I have a Q: I am not comfortable with reading notes and playing them simultaneously, but prefer to first memorize them, and then play. Thus, the notes are for reference only. Is this ok , or I have to insist with reading and playing at the same time.
One more Q: Metronome – how important is to practice every single piece with it? – it's challenging , frustrating , boring , and sometimes exciting at the same time.
One last Q: Is Canon variation by George Winston considered to be an intermediate level? I am playing the first half of it quite fluently (without a metronome, and by heart).
thanx
xie xie
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#1054396 - 12/26/08 07:03 PM
Re: 3 questions from an amateur
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Registered: 11/06/06
Posts: 1547
Loc: Roswell, Georgia
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Hi Nihaoma--
Welcome to the forums! It's exciting to get back to piano after such a long break. I bet you're making great progress.
Here are my answers/opinions on your questions:
1. I have to memorize most fast pieces in order to play them at tempo, but I always get the music out and play from it regularly to check myself. You'd be surprised how quickly you'll make changes in a piece, get a little sloppy holding notes through rests, or stop using staccato as noted. If you play slowly, you will probably be able to do this. When playing for pleasure, there are not real taboos except things that will cause arm pain, so you should do what you enjoy. Still, if you can't play at all with the music, even slowly, I'd record myself and check my playing against the music that way so you'll know you're being accurate.
2. I like practicing some with the metronome--again, to check myself--and it helps get the rhythm right when I am starting a piece or trying to get all of it up to tempo. I only play with it when I need to.
3. I have that Canon, and I'd say that parts of it are intermediate, and parts are closer to advanced. Like almost all versions of the Canon, it's simpler at the beginning and end more complex in the middle. Tempo is what makes this one especially difficult. It's a beautiful version, though, and I think it will be a favorite to play for people once you have it down and memorized.
Good luck on your studies. I am interested to hear what else you are learning as you go along!
Nancy
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#1054397 - 12/26/08 10:49 PM
Re: 3 questions from an amateur
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Registered: 06/06/04
Posts: 8482
Loc: Ohio, USA
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1. you're talking about 'sight reading' skill, which is hard for anyone to begin with and unless you practice it regularly, you would never be comfortable doing that. but after a few years, you'd get better with it.
2. metronome is important for regulating your playing pace and rhythms, and checking on your tempo. for beginner especially, whether you playing at even tempo or not is often not very obvious, but a teacher or someone else hearing you playing would notice. so, using metronome is a way to force yourself playing evenly. my teacher often tells me that i'm playing some part faster and some part slower, which i don't always pay attention, and then he'd suggest me practice with metronome. also, whenever you play with metronome, always wait until you hear its few clicks and get that pace in your mind, and then start to play with it. this way, it would be much easy for you to follow it.
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#1054398 - 12/28/08 01:29 PM
Re: 3 questions from an amateur
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Registered: 04/24/05
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The problem with relying on memory is that by doing that your reading skills deteriorate more and more. Eventually, they become non-existent, and at the same time you'll eventually reach a point where the pieces are too long and difficult to commit to memory, and then you're at a dead end pianistically. You can no longer memorize the more difficult pieces, and moveover, you can't even play them with the sheet music because your reading has become so bad, and so you can make no further progress.
Therefore, one should always try to keep his reading skills honed as much as possible. Thus, even if you memorize something, you should still play with the sheet music in front of you and constantly struggle to read the score, even if you have it essentially memorized. That way you preserve your reading skills as much as possible.
I am against using the metronome. The reason for this is that the device apparently was originally invented for use by composers as an aid when composing. But today it is apparently being misused for keeping time when playing.
I'm not familiar with George Winston's work.
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#1054399 - 12/28/08 02:00 PM
Re: 3 questions from an amateur
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Registered: 02/05/08
Posts: 111
Loc: Texas
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Memorization is for recitals and auditions. The metronome helps you count with an even tempo. When you learn to do this, you can subtly speed up and slow dowm the tempo. H1
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