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This is wonderful. I will simply print this thread if I can ever get the printer to work. Ha Ha. The information is exactly what I need to incorporate.

I have hardly ever explored the rest of Piano World... :b:

I agree! I love the chord maker! I'll have to let my college classmates know about this!

Thanks Matt G!

Rox, heres a compact sheet of lead sheet definitions by J. Abbersold

http://www.jajazz.com/jazzhandbook/15_nomenclature.pdf

And a couple of other similar threads with other links.

Pianist Corner » Freshening up techniques

http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/5061.html


Pianist Corner » Learning to "fake"

http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=000586

There have been other pretty good theory threads, maybe we could round them up and put em in the FAQ?

Matt, I think you just made yourself indispensible to the neophytes, including me.

I have a theory book - "Scales, Intervals, Keys, Triads, Rhythm and Meter: A Programmed Course in Elementary Music Theory, With an Introduction to Partwriting" - 3rd Ed. by John Clough, Joyce Conley and Claire Boge.

I started this course with a teacher I had five years ago. I've since moved on to another teacher and never resumed the studies. I've been thinking of resuming the course. Any opinions on the value of this particular book?

sleepingcat,

I had a semester of music theory in college (long time ago).

I remember some of it but I had to buy a book to refresh my memory. I can't rattle off immediately the answer to some theory, I have to think about it for a few seconds. But, eventually I can answer.

Definitely could use some help.

Great thread!

Matt G

Is their an easy way to determine the scales (major and minor) that a particular interval or triad appears in

I have a Piano World file in which I save valuable information. Most of the saved entries are from Matt G. I am also an avid although unskilled gardener. I should rename the file "Helpful MattG. Information."

thank you Matt, sincerely.

My printer seems to be stuck sort of. Matt G.? Do you have any suggestions? (I'm kidding of course.)

I've red twice the thread,and I can say that I dind't understood much of it

Well,first time it was my English.Has some limits.

Second time,was my musical education.Too diferent of Yours.

But still,have You tried a diferent aproach (if there is one on the other side of the Atlantic ).For me it sounds more like ArcHyperSpheroidalCosecant of 2/3 the complimentary angle (in radons) of the bevelcation point and divide it by 1/pi! you'll usually be within 2% of the Euclidean Cotangential ........ :b: than music related stuff

Something in the Zoltán Kodály style,for example.

lucian, you do need a little understanding of music theory to understand what is meant by chord inversions and progressions. My theory book begins with scale patterns, ie WWHWWWH for major scales, key signatures, then minors, relatives, etc. It does not get into intervals, what Matt is explaining, until it thoroughly goes through scales. One you do that then intervals and inversions become less like quantum mechanics and thus more understandable.

I love music theory and have been learning the exact things you have, sleepingcats. The book I work in is great. I love it. It is Keith Snell's "Fundamentals of Piano Theory." I highly recommend it. It goes from prep. level to level 10. I would guess from what you said you are learning, that would be level 6, which is the book I have been working in.

My 2 kids are doing the prep. level and level 2. I help them with theirs. They learn similar things, but not as much or as advanced, just on a smaller scale, but it surprises me how much they teach even at the lowest beginning levels.

Also, when looking for a teacher, I would ask them what they would teach me, their philosophy, and I also told them what I wanted to learn to see if they could and would teach me that. I told my teacher that I wanted to learn theory.

I was trying to remember the names of the different scale modes the other day (for instance, the relative minor of any major is the aeolian mode), so I decided to poke around the web, and found this site:
http://www.dolmetsch.com/theoryintro.htm
found what I was looking for at:
Chapter 25
some interesting stuff about what the Greeks were doing with theory on that page.
FWIW.

HM

HermanM,
I love your signature line! Boy, How many times have I told my teacher that!!

OK, a little story to tell about my signature line. I just finished Piano Lessons by Noah Adams. In it, he attends a one week piano camp for adults (which sounds like a lot of fun - all levels can attend), and tells the tale of seeing someone wearing a button that says "I played it better at home." How many times have I told my teacher that! Well, I'm trying not to any more. Told her the same story, and she laughs - says she hears it all the time.
Performance anxiety, even for ones' teacher, is a powerful thing. I must (nae, we must!) make attempts to conquer, or at least, control it.

HM

Like I said, I tell my teacher that all the time...It is performance anxiety in front of her. I get nervous. I hadn't thought before that a lot of people must tell her that too. She's never told me that other people say it too. I guess I should stop saying it.