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#1063797 - 12/27/08 05:02 PM
Tone Production, Wrist Pain, Octaves (Golandsky)
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Singing Tone (Edna Golandsky) http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IhKh71hIn2c&feature=related Transcript from 2:45 (near the end of demonstration): "The slowing into the key is so minute that it does not effect the speed. Speed is how you move quickly from note to note. The speed of the key has no bearing on the overall speed. It is a tiny difference between doing this... and doing this... the key's distance from where it starts to the bottom is very very small...so don't get stuck on the word slow... it's slower than this... but the slowing of it is so little that you can do anything, you can sing ... you can go very slow into the key for soft, it's a little bit less weight, and still go quickly, so it has no bearing the slowing down of... It's two distinct directions." More: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sLmxUGt-Fo8&feature=channel_page
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#1063800 - 12/28/08 03:17 AM
Re: Tone Production, Wrist Pain, Octaves (Golandsky)
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The 'hard' sound's fine. It's louder, that's all. Secret?? More 'Emperors New Clothes' if you ask me. A good question for those who get involved in DP vs acoustic debates - Can you play 'hard' on a DP?
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#1063801 - 12/28/08 03:35 AM
Re: Tone Production, Wrist Pain, Octaves (Golandsky)
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Originally posted by Serge88:  Very interesting and helpful but I'm so far from that, I'm still struggling with the basic. Serge [/b] A nice sound is basic.
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#1063803 - 12/28/08 02:19 PM
Re: Tone Production, Wrist Pain, Octaves (Golandsky)
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I disagree with all of this. This thing about "The slowing into the key...It's too distinct directions." turns piano playing into something that's too complicated to be practical. Moreover, it's not even valid, in my opinion.
And you shouldn't be using or rotating your wrist or arm as inherent part of your playing motion, in my opinion. This overly complicates the playing motion, which is difficult enough with just finger/hand motion. As the pieces get longer and more difficult, an overly complicated playing motion will eventually stymie you completely.
This is why in the 17th to 19th centuries students were taught to play with a coin on the back of each hand. This gets you playing primarily with finger and hand motion and with limited use of other parts of the body. This is the simplest and most efficient way to play. Those who would riducule this old method of playing should note that Bach, Mozart, Chopin, Liszt, Rachmaninoff, etc. were all taught to play like this.
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#1063805 - 12/28/08 02:29 PM
Re: Tone Production, Wrist Pain, Octaves (Golandsky)
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Chopin: Allegro de Concert Op. 46 Schumann: Toccata Op. 7 Fauré: Ballade Op. 19
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#1063808 - 12/29/08 01:14 AM
Re: Tone Production, Wrist Pain, Octaves (Golandsky)
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I also posted on this thread in the Pianist Corner: These are great. Anyone have any other recommendations for substantive content like this? I've watched a lot of these. Andrew Furmanczyk\'s Piano Lessons There are some good things here, but the audio isn't always that great and you have to be able to deal with the style of the teacher. They are also somewhat simple at times, but right on the money for ABF types in other episodes.
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