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#1065155 - 05/26/07 11:40 PM pain between ring finger and pinky?
slidemasterx Offline
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Registered: 01/20/07
Posts: 28
Loc: Philippines
About a month ago I hurt my hand by opening a gate that was very hard to open. The pain disappeared in two weeks ago but when I started playing a week ago, the pain came back.

Is it because I was doing something wrong with my playing that made the pain to reappear?

Would having someone massage it do anything to help it? This is really frustrating. Any input would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance

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#1065156 - 05/26/07 11:49 PM Re: pain between ring finger and pinky?
YD Offline
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Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 590
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
Are you playing something with wide stretching (e.g. Chopin's 10/1)?

Please, forgive me if the advice sounds too primitive, but why not go to a doctor?
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Yuri
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#1065157 - 05/27/07 12:07 AM Re: pain between ring finger and pinky?
slidemasterx Offline
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I've only been playing arpeggios within 1 octave.

Doctors here are not so good but I guess I could give it a try. What kind of doctor should I go to?

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#1065158 - 05/27/07 12:23 AM Re: pain between ring finger and pinky?
YD Offline
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Originally posted by slidemasterx:
I've only been playing arpeggios within 1 octave.
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I had a very bad hand injury 12 years ago. After 4.5 hour reconstructive wrist surgery and months of physical therapy, the doctors proclaimed that my hand is as good as it'll ever be, and it may only get worse from here (like because of the injury I am virtually guaranteed arthritis in early age). I tried re-starting my piano playing several times, and gave up because of pain.

However, half a year ago the new attempt resulted in only little bit of pain (tolerable), and even that diminished as I continued practicing.

In your case, the injury is (I hope) smaller, so, if analogy works on smaller time scale (no guarantees here, of course), I would give it another month rest and then restart.
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Doctors here are not so good but I guess I could give it a try. What kind of doctor should I go to? [/b]
Sorry to hear that. I guess we are so used to good doctors here that the thought of them not being available just doesn't enter one's mind. I would just go to my regular doctor (if you have one), and if that didn't resolve anything - hand surgeon (not for surgery, but for diagnosis). Around here hand surgery is a separate discipline (they have a separate "reconstructive hand surgery" -not sure about exact name- department at Stanford), and that's where the most knowledge about hand conditions is concentrated.
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Yuri
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#1065159 - 05/27/07 02:04 AM Re: pain between ring finger and pinky?
gabytu Offline
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Registered: 12/26/05
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Loc: Portland, Or.
I can understand your concern. The injury occurred over a month ago,and has reappeared when you try to play the piano.

You might want to give it some more rest, then if it does not get better you might want to have your doctor look at it. It might be a sprain, or a pulled tendon, or something else. Your doctor would be the best to diagnose it.

I would not have anyone massage it, as you don't know the nature of the injury, and you don't want to make it worse.

I do hope that your get some relief soon as it must be very frustrating not to be able to play the piano. Gaby Tu

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#1065160 - 05/27/07 07:05 AM Re: pain between ring finger and pinky?
bruceee Offline
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Loc: Wellington, New Zealand
It doesn't seem like a serious injury, and one month is possibly not enough time for it to heal fully. I would allow some more time, perhaps another month.

If something you are doing on the piano hurts it, then stop doing that something.

But if the pain is still severe, I echo the advice to see a doctor -- you want to be sure you haven't broken a bone or something like that.

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#1065161 - 05/27/07 08:57 AM Re: pain between ring finger and pinky?
slidemasterx Offline
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Loc: Philippines
It's probably not serious. Last week, I returned to piano playing after more than 2 years of not playing.

I had been concentrating on playing the trombone for a while but had to stop due to a dental problem.

I will try to see a doctor tomorrow. I'm sure it's not a broken bone. When I hit that gate, it wasn't strong enough to cause a bone to break. There are no signs of it from the outside. I only get a stinging feeling once in a while.

When I press each note, I noticed that the topmost part of my hand falls below the height of my knuckles. I know this is a bad habit but I don't know how to fix it. Any suggestions?

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#1065162 - 05/27/07 10:41 AM Re: pain between ring finger and pinky?
signa Offline
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Registered: 06/06/04
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Loc: Ohio, USA
when you're playing, try to shift your arm weight to fingers (by rotating either hand or wrist a bit) rather than use fingers alone, which will help a lot in avoiding injury.

i remember when i started, there's a time when i felt my pinky getting pain/score playing something, i adjusted movement and hand position and all that, and somehow it went away. but i have been careful about playing movements and using weight ever since...

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#1065163 - 05/27/07 08:17 PM Re: pain between ring finger and pinky?
bruceee Offline
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It really does seem you are on the mend. Playing piano does involve some unusual movements, so it's not surprising you might tweak some old injuries. A little discomfort is usual especially when you are trying new things. But if it advances to actual pain, stop what you are doing and practice something else. When the pain subsides, come back to it later.

As Signa says, it is a good idea to review your hand position, and find an alternate that doesn't hurt.

The best hand position is the one that feels comfortable to you. The usual advice is that when your fingers are on the keys, your arms should slope downwards from the elbows by about 10 degrees. Adjust your seat height to achieve this. That's a good staring point, but if you find some other height that suits you better, then go for that \:\)

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#1065164 - 05/29/07 05:56 AM Re: pain between ring finger and pinky?
slidemasterx Offline
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Loc: Philippines
I went to a doctor this morning and he said it was tendonitis. He gave me some anti-inflammatory pills and my hand is feeling a little better now.

I have 2 questions. Everytime I wake up in the morning my hands feel weak and I find it hard to write or use my cellphone and I can't grip anything. Today I experienced the same thing except that it's not getting any better. I usually sleep with my hands under the pillow. Is it safe to say that my sleeping habit is causing this?

The doctor said that about 3 days from now, I can get back to practicing becuase tendonitis heals better with exercise. I think I read an article here saying the same thing. Should I follow this advice and go back to practicing? Thanks again for your replies.

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#1065165 - 05/29/07 06:33 AM Re: pain between ring finger and pinky?
bruceee Offline
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Loc: Wellington, New Zealand
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Is it safe to say that my sleeping habit is causing this?
No \:\) I sometimes sleep like that, without causing that problem. Might it be just another symptom of the tendonitis?

Your doctor is the expert on these matters, so I suggest follow his recommendations. If you want more information on tendonitis, (or any medical matter!) don't overlook Google.

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#1065166 - 05/29/07 10:47 AM Re: pain between ring finger and pinky?
signa Offline
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Registered: 06/06/04
Posts: 8483
Loc: Ohio, USA
it sounds serious, and hope you'd get better. i would suggest everyone taking up piano to be careful about playing movements, position and proper use of arm/body weight to avoid the injuries like this.

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#1065167 - 05/29/07 12:21 PM Re: pain between ring finger and pinky?
Aduke Offline
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Registered: 01/31/07
Posts: 53
I sleep with my hands under the pillow sometimes and I have noticed that wearing a wrist brace to bed helps prevent any weird hand positions that could put pressure on my wrist. When I forget to wear the brace for a couple of days in a row, my wrist usually starts to hurt so i know there is a connection there...

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#1065168 - 05/29/07 10:23 PM Re: pain between ring finger and pinky?
slidemasterx Offline
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Registered: 01/20/07
Posts: 28
Loc: Philippines
This has been really bugging me because it's been 2 days and both my hands are still really weak. The tendonitis is subsiding though. Another 2 days and I think it will heal.

I will search for more info if this is related to my tendonitis or if this is a totally different thing.

I spend a lot of time on the computer but mostly reading and not typing on the keyboard. If a lot of people sleep with their hands under the pillow then I don't see if this is a the cause for me.

In the meantime, if anyone else has experience with having their hands suddenly become weak, please feel free to post. Thanks

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