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#1316630 - 12/02/09 10:02 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: mooshinator]
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Originally Posted By: gintarec
Thanks! And don't you think to quit!!!!! Ever. Not even in sleep. We all here for the long run!

Originally Posted By: mooshinator

And Nguyen, I agree with gintarec... no quitting for you!! smile

Look how much we care for each other. I feel good. I feel special... LOL OK, I'm not quitting smile

Originally Posted By: mooshinator
Do you guys count eighths (or actually, do you count *at all*) when you get up to proper tempo? Or do you just count at slow tempo until you're comfortable with the song and then rely on your own sense of timing to play at proper tempo without counting?

When I start a new song, I count to figure out how it goes. I usually (not always) challenge myself figure out a song not listening to the CD first. Once I know how a song supposed to go, and can count playing both hands (very slowly of course), I stop counting. Then I listen to the CD many times and focus on its dynamics (mood, rhythm, flow, tempo etc…) and polish it based on my understanding of the CD. Once in a while, I challenge myself and count at tempo, but it doesn’t always work, especially the fast pieces.
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#1316707 - 12/02/09 12:21 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: Nguyen]
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I don't count because I find it hard to count and play. On some songs, when I first work it out, I either say "one and one and one and" or tap my foot. I only really need it for upbeats where the new note is on "and" or foot up.


Edited by bolt (12/02/09 12:21 PM)
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#1317275 - 12/03/09 06:43 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: bolt]
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I've finally finished! Amazing Grace took ages to get smooth, it's still far from perfect but I'm sick of playing it and I'm moving on to book 2 smile

Scarborough Fair
Raisins and Almonds
The Entertainer
Amazing Grace
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#1317296 - 12/03/09 07:22 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: BazC]
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Originally Posted By: BazC
I've finally finished! Amazing Grace took ages to get smooth, it's still far from perfect but I'm sick of playing it and I'm moving on to book 2 smile


Congratulations!! I am sure that your Amazing Grace is smooth enough to move on; I read people in this thread moving on to Book 2 all the time and still go back to practice Amazing Grace and smooth it out. Have fun in Book 2!!

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#1317302 - 12/03/09 07:36 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: mooshinator]
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BazC - Congratulations!!!! Good job on keeping on and best of luck with Book 2!!!
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#1317345 - 12/03/09 08:40 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: gintarec]
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Ok, The Stranger, Go Down Moses and Greensleeves - all done! As before, I am not going to stop playing them, (well, maybe apart from Go Down Moses), and just keep repeating them every time I am at the piano. I just love Greensleeves! I can play O Sole Mio without mistakes, but I just don't like that tune, so I am just trying to keep going with it. Maybe another few days and I will leave it alone. Basically, I have 5 songs left in this book!!!! No chance to finish before Christmas (I am not even trying), but I hope I will finish it not too far into New Year! (Although, hearing experiences of Amazing Grace, it might be either Easter or next Christmas before I can put this book to rest!)

I have bought yet another book today - The Library of Christmas Favourites. So, I guess that will keep me busy with some of the Christmas songs (it is a huge book, 240 pages!!!) I guess I will never need to buy another Christmas book again!
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#1317364 - 12/03/09 09:05 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: gintarec]
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Congratulations, BazC! Enjoy Book 2, and you can always keep polishing "Amazing Grace" as you move along.

gintarec - Good job getting through all those pieces. Wow, that Christmas book is going to keep you really busy!

I keep thinking that I can give myself a pass on "Greensleeves" - sometimes it sounds SO good, and then I play it just horribly a few times and know that it still needs work.

I've got the first section of "He's Got the Whole World In His Hands" to where it's recognizeable, but I have a slight hesitation in there that I just can't get rid of, even when I slow it down and count. But the good news is that if I get that worked out, the rest of it is just a repeat in other keys and should present no problem. In fact, I think I play the second part in the key of G better than the first (C) part.

I can't imagine how I'm going to get through the last two pieces though. It is just getting harder and harder with each new one. I was hoping to finish up Book 1 sometime in January, but as gintaret said - it could take till Easter or next Christmas. LOL

Correction - I see that I was mistaken - the first part of "He's Got The Whole World..." is in G, and the second in C. :-)


Edited by mom3gram (12/03/09 09:59 AM)
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#1317375 - 12/03/09 09:20 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: mom3gram]
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Thanks folks! smile

@ Gintarec I'm looking for a Christmas book, are the arrangements nice and not too difficult in The Library of Christmas Favourites?
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#1317393 - 12/03/09 09:42 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: BazC]
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BazC - there all sorts! Some of them look easy, and I hope to be able to play them with not too much trouble at all. Others are way too advanced for me. There are lots of traditional Christmas songs, and some classical pieces, so it should keep me entertained for many years to come!!!
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#1317655 - 12/03/09 03:02 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: gintarec]
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Sounds ideal, p'raps I'll grab a copy, thanks!
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#1317666 - 12/03/09 03:17 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: BazC]
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Originally Posted By: BazC
I've finally finished! Amazing Grace took ages to get smooth, it's still far from perfect but I'm sick of playing it and I'm moving on to book 2 smile

CONGRATULATIONS BazC. Have fun in Book 2. You’ll miss us.

Gintarec, you’re my favorite to model after, so yes, Easter is a very good time to celebrate our achievements. I really like this idea. Don’t change; I need some breathing room. smile

Mom3gram, Congratulations on your progress. “He’s Got…” isn’t an easy piece for anyone so you’ve done quite impressive. I’m sure it’ll come together for you soon.

As for me, I have closed the page on “He’s Got…” One of the earlier posts I forget whose, makes sense, “playing faster doesn’t necessarily mean better”. This applies to this Piece for me. I have tried increase to CD tempo but it’s way too fast for my fingers and doesn’t sound right. A little slower than CD tempo and I think it sounds ok, so I move on.

FYI mom3gram, “The Entertainer” isn’t as bad as advertised IMO. 3 nights in and I can play each hand smoothly at tempo now. With hands combined, I have to slow down but it’s getting there. I think the Entertainer is similar to when we started BtMD. We overcame that song; we will do just fine with this one.

Last night, after about 2 hours wrestling with “The Entertainer”, my mind finally gave in. This was almost midnight but somehow I didn’t want to go to bed yet; so I took out the “Basic Adult Christmas Piano Book 1” and gave it a go. To my surprise, in about an hour, I was able to play those songs a little bit beyond the first haft of the book with only a few tries. The one thing I was surprised most was for some of the songs, I was able to read both hands and play reasonably good on first try. This is great news for some of us wondering if this Alfred Adult Method works. I’m not sure about the future or the next few Books, but up until this point, when we are about done with Book One, we can actually read easy songs both hands and play. I never try any supplemental pieces or on the side songs before so I never know until last night. Now I know I can read baby-step both hands and play. I’m so happy, not only for me, but all of us here. Cheers!!!
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#1317681 - 12/03/09 03:36 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: Nguyen]
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BazC: Congratulations. You are the first one I've seen graduate to book 2 since I joined here.

Most people seem to be ahead of me so in a few more weeks there won't be many left!
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#1317770 - 12/03/09 05:21 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: bolt]
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Originally Posted By: bolt
BazC:
Most people seem to be ahead of me so in a few more weeks there won't be many left!

bolt, Don't worry. The last few songs of the book take forever to polish. You'll catch on.
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#1317812 - 12/03/09 06:05 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: Nguyen]
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Congratulations are due for all completing Book 1, for sure! I am way back at Beautiful Brown Eyes and just dream of that day. It is a terrific accomplishment.

I did good with my teacher’s session after the holiday break. I had spent very much time in practice and managed most every assignment well. Except Beautiful Brown Eyes. The broken chord on the left hand causes me to commit all kinds of errors – on both hands. I found a very similar left hand in my Christmas book. The Chipmunk Song has the same broken chord pattern the whole way. So I am focusing on that one as my supplemental. Plus it is just a fun tune.

Speaking of counting… I am in love with 3.4 time. I count it as an exercise all time. I mean ALL the time. I count it while walking, while cooking, while pumping gas. I breathe to it, I swivel my chair to it and I dream it when going to sleep. Is it love or infatuation? Time will tell.

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#1317824 - 12/03/09 06:20 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: Nguyen]
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Originally Posted By: bolt
BazC:
Most people seem to be ahead of me so in a few more weeks there won't be many left!

bolt, Don't worry. The last few songs of the book take forever to polish. You'll catch on.


Well, sooner or later I'll be stuck here polishing those last few for weeks on end while most of you have trotted off to pastures greener!
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#1318049 - 12/04/09 04:15 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: bolt]
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Thanks for the congrats people! I'm sure you'll all be joining me in book 2 before too long!
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#1318539 - 12/04/09 07:01 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: Mark...]
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Looks like I'm coming in at the end. I just ordered book one from my local bookstore. It should be in in about 7-10 days. I'm excited to begin. I will go back through this thread as I progress through the book, and who knows, maybe some more newbies will join me. Either way, thank you all for a valuable resource.
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#1318552 - 12/04/09 07:09 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: pianonewb]
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Originally Posted By: pianonewb
Looks like I'm coming in at the end. I just ordered book one from my local bookstore. It should be in in about 7-10 days. I'm excited to begin. I will go back through this thread as I progress through the book, and who knows, maybe some more newbies will join me. Either way, thank you all for a valuable resource.


This thread doesn't have an "end"... it just keeps going and going as new people join and work through the book. I was new a month ago, you're new today, and a month from now someone even newer will join. smile

So welcome aboard, Mike!!

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#1318563 - 12/04/09 07:26 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: mooshinator]
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Lots of the people who were late on with this when I first started are just beginning to move on to Number 2. I'm up to the "Good People" piece now (Page 117).

Finding this one quite hard.

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#1318569 - 12/04/09 07:30 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: starbug]
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I found "Good People" very difficult too. In fact, it's the only song that I gave up on so far without being able to play it even halfway good. I couldn't get it, didn't like it, and was sick of it. When I get to the end of the book, I may go back and give it another shot, or maybe not.
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#1318702 - 12/04/09 11:52 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: mooshinator]
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Originally Posted By: mooshinator
This thread doesn't have an "end"... it just keeps going and going as new people join and work through the book. I was new a month ago, you're new today, and a month from now someone even newer will join. smile

So welcome aboard, Mike!!


Cool! A month in, huh? glad to know there are some here I can learn along with! Thanks for the welcome! I'll post again when the book comes in and I start.
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#1318911 - 12/05/09 12:09 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: mom3gram]
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I couldn't get it, didn't like it


Glad to hear I'm not the only one. It's kind of putting me off the book. I haven't skipped any song yet, but this one is tempting me to bah

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#1318939 - 12/05/09 12:47 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: pianonewb]
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Originally Posted By: pianonewb
Looks like I'm coming in at the end. I just ordered book one from my local bookstore. It should be in in about 7-10 days. I'm excited to begin. I will go back through this thread as I progress through the book, and who knows, maybe some more newbies will join me. Either way, thank you all for a valuable resource.

Welcome Mike. There are quite a few new people here too and I'm sure more will join. You'll have company. Enjoy.
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#1319003 - 12/05/09 02:23 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: Mark...]
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Yeah isn't it pretty interesting? I can almost guarantee the original OP did not think this thread would still be alive and kicking today. Someone might even say the same couple years down the road. lol. As I mentioned before, this thread was made back in 2007!

On another note, lately things have been kind of weird and almost depressing. This last trip that I took kind of messed up my practice schedule and I don't feel bad about taking a break but I can tell that bad habits are forming upon the bad habits already concrete in my technique! lol

So here I go and look for a teacher which is very scarce in my area. I found 3 teachers, called them up, and it was unreal. All 3 were highly expensive (ranging as low as $100 to $150 a month, and it was only bi-weekly classes!) and they were rude like no other. I didn't even have the chance to ask about their credentials because of the disrespect handed to me. Maybe it's because I'm young and they thought I wouldn't be serious. Who knows. Even more disappointing is the fact that they were the only people who listed themselves to the public.

Anyway, how many teachers did you all cycle through before finding your current instructor?

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#1319090 - 12/05/09 05:07 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: fanatik22]
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I'm new to PW and pretty excited to find the ABF. Like some of you I took piano for some time as a young kid, but obviously it didn't take, since I was never able to sight-read music.

I wanted to go back to playing a little and even bought one of those inexpensive "toy" keyboards a year ago but it's been sitting in my corner collecting dust. Since finding PW, I've downloaded some free sheet music (easy classical pieces like burgmuller, fur elise, burgmuller's l'arabesque, la pastorale) and found motivation to play a little each day .. sometimes for 3 or 4 hours when I get off of work. I just ordered the Alfred books online (they just arrived yesterday) and hope to learn enough method/theory/technical skills to be able to sight read music (be able to play with both hands, in tempo, reading ahead).

It's funny how I never realized that playing piano is a lot like learning how to type:
need to practice with both hands together, slowly at first, and speed will build up over time.
daily repetition will eventually build skills that make it seem effortless.


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#1319093 - 12/05/09 05:15 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: n303y]
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I'm supposed to be practicing in Book #2 (just started a couple weeks ago), but I'm making a DVD of some of the pieces from Book #1. Today I was recording Scarborough Fair and...

Scarborough Cat

A little bit sweet.
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#1319173 - 12/05/09 07:32 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: rodmichael]
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Well I'm joining you all now. I'm excited to finally learn how to play.

I played the clarinet for about 6-7 years so I can read music...at least the treble clef. I've wanted to learn how to play the piano since I was in 9th grade, 25+ years ago.

I've been reading about buying a piano. I did exactly what I read not to do. I'm now the proud owner of an old piano that most would think isn't worthy to be played. 1956 Cable Nelson Spinet. The cabinet looks great and it was in tune at the little mom & pop music shop I bought it from. They delivered it yesterday and it's still in tune except for one very low note. There is a ringing on two of the mid/low notes. Hopefully it'll hold up for a few years. It was only $475 after taxes and delivery.

I'll be learning without a teacher for awhile. Just getting started with Alfred's AIO book #1 today. I'll also be going through the Bastien Piano For Adults book #1. (I couldn't decide which book to buy so I bought them both.) I'm planning to do 1.5 hours of practice a day broke up into 2-3 sessions.

Honestly, I can't imagine being able to read two different staffs at the same time.

I've been reading this thread for awhile. I'm really impressed with the pieces I've heard some of you recorded and shared. It's encouraging.

Just wanted to say hi and join you all.
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#1319189 - 12/05/09 08:10 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: GracieCat]
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Welcome DanGIMP & GracieCat. Very glad you decided to join.

fanatik, sorry to hear about your painful teacher search. I don't have one so I can't give any inputs. Best of luck though. Hope you will find one soon.
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#1319190 - 12/05/09 08:13 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: GracieCat]
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Hi, GracieCat and welcome. The Alfred book and the Bastien book will introduce you to playing with both hands gradually, so don't worry. I have two method books also, the Alfred, and Faber Adult Piano Adventures. I have sort of let the Faber book slide, but I do pick it up occasionally. It's hard to focus on both books, but it's good to have supplementary material, and it might just fill in some holes for you.

Well, today I was just tired of my Alfred pieces and my Christmas music, and just wanted something different, so I picked up my Greatest Hits book, which I haven't looked at in several months, and I was pleasantly surprised that I could play several of the songs without too much difficulty. Yippee! I must be learning something after all. :-)
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#1319204 - 12/05/09 08:34 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 [Re: mom3gram]
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Originally Posted By: mom3gram

Well, today I was just tired of my Alfred pieces and my Christmas music, and just wanted something different, so I picked up my Greatest Hits book, which I haven't looked at in several months, and I was pleasantly surprised that I could play several of the songs without too much difficulty. Yippee! I must be learning something after all. :-)

That's great mom3gram. I am very happy for you. Awesome, at least we know we learn something after all these practices. Is it safe to recommend this Method now? Or do we need more proof?
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