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#1078588 - 01/19/09 03:59 PM
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Registered: 08/11/06
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Loc: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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I’m not an expert, but Cannon seems to offer lots of bang per dollar. I have an older PowerShot from the “Elph” line that I’ve been real happy with. Here is a filtered search from newegg: Cannon
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#1078589 - 01/19/09 04:11 PM
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Registered: 12/01/05
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Loc: Edinburgh
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Hi Mike, I'm not experienced with the sort of cameras you are looking at - I jumped straight in and bought a dslr a few months back. So i can't offer you much advice on the specific models other than a couple of website reviews I found: http://www.whatdigitalcamera.com - rated both the Canon G10 and the LX3 at 91% apiece which shows the quality of each http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews_nikon_coolpix_p6000_6.php - clearly states that the Canon and Panasonic cameras beat the Nikon. From those two reviews, I would be inclined to go with the Canon or Panasonic. You get a slightly wider angle lens with the Panasonic, but more zoom with the Canon. If you are looking to take low level pictures, you should look closely at what each review says about the ISO quality (this can help with picture quality in low light). Based on what I quickly saw, I would be tempted by the Panasonic if money was tight, or the Canon if can afford it. I'm not sure if each of those can be mounted on tri-pods, I didn't read closely enough. Euan (I have nothing against Nikon, by the way - that's what my camera is!)
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#1078590 - 01/19/09 04:26 PM
Re: Way OT - photo equipment!
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Registered: 07/09/07
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Loc: Barcelona
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Canon makes excelent cameras. If you're looking for a compact camera, the Olympus SP-590 Ultra Zoom is a good choice too. I have an Olympus E-330 reflex, and although I'm happy with it so far, I admit it has some noise in nocturnal shoots if I don't use a tripod. But with a little practice you can get nice night shoots: (click to enlarge) BTW, if you don't want to carry a heavy tripod, an option to consider is getting a Gorillapod: it's light and useful to stabilize the camera in difficult angles. I have one and it works! http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=6EIrCecCwv8 --> Gorillapod examples
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#1078594 - 01/19/09 08:23 PM
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Registered: 01/01/04
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Loc: Durango Colorado
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SH, The G10 was a very strong contender. After spending hours at the computer I've ordered the Panasonic LX3 instead of the G10 because of a lot of stuff that I don't understand; Noise especially. Being that I will be using this camera only for work and not being the artsy fartsy photographer I found that the LX3 seemed (hell - what do I know) like the more appropriate choice. Especially after reading this review: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonicdmclx3/ Actually that is not the review that swayed me but I can't find the one that did Here it is; the convincer. web page Mike
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#1078595 - 01/20/09 02:29 AM
Re: Way OT - photo equipment!
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Registered: 12/01/05
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Loc: Edinburgh
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Hi again Mike - good choice with the camera, am sure you will have lots of fun with it! I think I'm right in saying that your camera has a Leica lens on it, which is great as they make some pretty expensive equipment. As for your previous comment about noise - it gets its name in a similar way to 'snow' on a bad television picture. In other words, its an interference which prevents a clean image coming through. It's mainly a problem with night photography, when someone uses too high an ISO rating. Here is a quick example: http://photo.net/equipment/sony/a100/noise2.jpg The image on the left is the 'noisy' one. If you look closely at the bottom right of the image in the grey section, you can see the distortion of the pixels, as opposed to the purer image on the right side.
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#1078596 - 01/20/09 02:58 AM
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Registered: 04/09/06
Posts: 278
Loc: Hälsingland, Sweden
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Originally posted by mr_super-hunky:  ...Canon powershot G10... The only downside of the camera is that it cannot take a "raw" image. If you ever wanted to submit a picture for publication in a magazine, most of them require the image to be in the "raw" format. I believe only an slr can do this but I'm not sure. [/b] This is not correct. The G10 takes pictures in the RAW format just like a dslr. :-) Peace. /Richard
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#1078598 - 01/20/09 10:21 AM
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Registered: 12/29/08
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Loc: Minnesota
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Those two websites I sent you .. are excellent sites for getting photography feedback / advice / tips, etc. www.DpChallenge.com (Forums or enter a challenge) www.FredMiranda.com (Forums)
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#1078599 - 01/20/09 12:36 PM
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Registered: 01/17/09
Posts: 304
Loc: SE Michigan
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Mike, it is great that you know what application you are going to use the camera for, because then you can test them out before you made the purchase.
The standard things like resolution, speeds, etc. are fine for most digital cameras nowadays, but you have specific needs, so you need to check out on the lnes.
Part of the reasons that some lenses (especially those used by professionals) are so expensive because they have multiple elements that correct for errors.
A simple lens (as drawn by 2 circular arcs in physics) classes make a lot of errors. Like the center will receive slightly more light than the sides. This can be digitally corrected internally and might not affect most application.
Likewise, it is hard to focus on a plane, so if you focus on a plane, the sides get slightly out of focus, but this is ok for most people because usually your subject is in the center (like a person), and who cares if the hundreds of trees in the background is SLIGHTLY out of focus. But for other applications that needs sharper focus across the plane, they will need lenses with correction elements.
For your application, probably perspective distorition is important. A single element lens is going to have some distortion, so some correction through other lens elements must be made. How much (and it affects prices of course) depends on how much you need the correction to be.
The best thing is to try it. If you are in a store, it is an architecture. Imagine your most possible use and take similar pictures, like display racks could be your pillars and columns of your architecture. Take pictures of closeups, corners, turns, etc. and see if there is unacceptable distortions.
What I said above is in principle only. It might not be 100% accurate, but hopefully it explains the lens and correction a little bit.
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#1078600 - 01/20/09 02:49 PM
Re: Way OT - photo equipment!
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Registered: 01/20/06
Posts: 1614
Loc: New Hampshire, USA
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Mike- Nice choice on the camera. We have a Panasonic FX28, and that's our second Panasonic digital. Really nice, easy to use for me (who understands nothing about cameras), but has enough bells and whistles for hubby (who does get all that stuff). They've been very good in low light, as well. We take a lot of photos at concerts and the Panasonics have been the best in low light. And if the camera search ever comes up again, try this site for reviews, etc. We've found it to be really helpful: Steve\'s Digicams
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1889 Mason & Hamlin screwstringer upright Kawai MP-4 digital
--------------------------- When life hands you lemons, throw them back and add some of your own. Stupid life.
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#1078602 - 01/21/09 07:25 AM
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Registered: 01/17/09
Posts: 7
Loc: Northern NY
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Most digitals will default to a non-RAW setting. You must manually choose to shoot in RAW. Check the menu. If all else fails, check the manual! Becky
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