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#2108085 - 06/25/13 08:05 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: malkin]
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Holy moly; I'm just going slowly.
Is that just the nature of book 3? I was out of town (working) for the weekend. I feel like I'm starting over on my current Alfred pieces, the syrupy special day and the not particularly elegant rag. Stravinsky and Martha Mier did just fine with 3 days off and are just about where I left them.
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#2108193 - 06/26/13 01:31 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Mark...]
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Book 3 is indeed slow. And IMO a bit too challenging for what it gives in return. I have not given it up completely but I've only been playing Jazz Ostinato from it in the last two months. On the other hand, I had fun picking up book 1 again and going through its tunes, almost sight-reading. One needs some gratification once in a while! I plan to do that with book 2 to see if I have actually progressed at all.
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#2108236 - 06/26/13 05:26 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: malkin]
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Originally Posted By: malkin
BUMP!

Holy moly; I'm just going slowly.
Is that just the nature of book 3? I was out of town (working) for the weekend. I feel like I'm starting over on my current Alfred pieces, the syrupy special day and the not particularly elegant rag. Stravinsky and Martha Mier did just fine with 3 days off and are just about where I left them.


I know what you mean by the syrupy Special Day.....I really loved this when I first heard it, now after a few weeks playing it I am just over it.

I only pick pieces at random from the book (but do intend to learn them all). What I do is find a piece I want to learn, find the hard bit and try for a few days to a week to learn just that part. If it's too difficult I leave it and come back a little later (sometimes a month). Miraculously when I come back to the piece it doesn't seem so hard and progress is quite quick to finish the whole piece.
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#2108244 - 06/26/13 06:46 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: sinophilia]
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On the other hand, I had fun picking up book 1 again and going through its tunes, almost sight-reading. One needs some gratification once in a while! I plan to do that with book 2 to see if I have actually progressed at all.


Improvements in sight reading are golden, but also a great indication of how far you have come.
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#2109473 - 06/28/13 05:28 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: malkin]
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Originally Posted By: malkin
Oops, I meant 'Cinq Doigts.'


Thank you malkin, I downloaded these and will try them later today. I'm hungry for stuff to read and practice that's not too frustrating. Right now I'd rather spend a month on Stravinsky or Burgmuller than on a single Afred's song.
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#2109512 - 06/28/13 08:29 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Mark...]
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I hope you love them as much as I do! They are easy and impossible at the same time: a delicious combination. wink


I'm still intending to wade through Alfred for as long as my teacher thinks it is a good idea, but I'm not going to stress about anything in there.
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#2112073 - 07/03/13 09:38 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Mark...]
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Been awhile between posts. From midway through book 2 until now, midway through book 3. Piano is my solace and inspiration. Social media and networking is... not my better side. So, three and a half years to get this far. Looking at around four years to get past book 3. That is anticipating another six months in book 3. Don't know if that is normal, fast or slow. Don't think it matters - but maybe it does. What I wondering for myself now is, "What comes after book 3?" I very much like the structured methodical Alfred's approach. I do spend a lot of time musically digressing, sometimes doing more supplemental pieces than I do method. But I always come back to the AIO course. But, what do I do after the course completes? Kind of a scary thought. I feel a need for structure and a progression plan. Some means by which I can - I don't even know what - advance?

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#2112080 - 07/03/13 10:06 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Mark...]
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Captain Zero, do you have a genre of music you want to play? E.g. classical, rock, blues, new age, etc.? Or are you happy with any music? Depending on what you prefer to play, I may have some suggestions.
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#2112086 - 07/03/13 10:20 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: PianoStudent88]
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I am happy and excited to play anything. I enjoy learning new things and have found attempting things I would not previously expected to be fun. But in general, in order from best to worst. I enjoy the jazz/blues genre most. Classical is surprisingly good. Pop/Country/Broadway etc. are okay, in passing. New Age is not really 'it' for me.

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#2112123 - 07/03/13 11:06 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Captain Zero]
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Try some of Martha Mier's Jazz Rags and Blues. There are several of them in the series, graded for difficulty.
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#2112129 - 07/03/13 11:18 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: malkin]
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Oh yeah! I do love me some Martha Meirs. I diverged from AIO long enough to work through Jazz, Rags and Blues Books 1 and 2. That was what I considered as supplemental. I am now looking for something more for foundation work - to pick up after I complete AIO. Also liked working through supplemental books by William Gillock and Larry Minsky. I attempted Phillip Keveren without a lot of success - not sure why. Too much hand movement across the keyboard for me at the time I think. I have done a lot of work with sacred, hymns and holiday pieces too. All of which I consider supplemental.

I don't know if I am expressing myself well. I am a little lost for direction at the core. not so much at the day to day. I appreciate the thoughts.

So where are you going? Maybe if I ask question instead then I can reapply the answer to me?

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#2112140 - 07/03/13 11:32 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Mark...]
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I have a teacher, so he's in charge of anything foundational; I don't even know what that would mean. In Alfred 3, I'm starting the Clementi Prelude in D minor; I was just listing to recordings of it on youtube, and thinking it is kind of boring. I'm in no rush in the Alfred, because peeking ahead it is quite a few pages until anything looks interesting.

I have book 3 of Jazz, Rags, and Blues and there is quite a jump in difficulty from the earlier books in the series. I am presently working on Waterfront Jazz. "Working on" makes it sound like I might be making progress. "Stuck on" might be more accurate.

I am also playing/ working on the Stravinsky Five Finger pieces that are mentioned earlier in the thread.

At my last lesson, my teacher gave me a little speech about harder pieces taking more time, so not to expect to knock them out in a week, so it's all fine.
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#2112425 - 07/03/13 08:28 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: malkin]
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Originally Posted By: malkin
I have a teacher, so he's in charge of anything foundational; I don't even know what that would mean. In Alfred 3, I'm starting the Clementi Prelude in D minor; I was just listing to recordings of it on youtube, and thinking it is kind of boring.


I loved this when I first heard it but the it proved very difficult for me. After learning the basic piece I went to the Bach Prelude in C, finished it and put it into the last recital, but still can't play the Clementi Prelude fluidly. It is one of those pieces that is in my constant practice list.
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#2112508 - 07/03/13 11:48 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Mark...]
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My instruction was to to block the RH chords. Problem for me is that I can't reach all of them, but I marked the ones that need rotation, so I know where I'm going and how to move.

My guess is that I will like it better when I can play it more competently.

And hey! Congrats to your Aussie boys on their TTT yesterday and the yellow jersey!!!
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#2112562 - 07/04/13 02:23 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Mark...]
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I've decided to put Alfred 3 aside completely. I picked it up again yesterday and it takes me too much time just to read through the pieces in the second half of the book. Most of them are more difficult than the extra stuff I'm working on. I'll be glad to go back to them next year, but for now it will be mainly Burgmuller and Czerny etudes for me, and the beginner pieces in Pianist magazine. Plus I have a few other things I want to try out, such as Les Cinq Doigts and Chopin's Waltz in A minor. And there's my daily sight-reading. No time for Alfred right now!
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#2112596 - 07/04/13 03:57 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: malkin]
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My instruction was to to block the RH chords. Problem for me is that I can't reach all of them, but I marked the ones that need rotation, so I know where I'm going and how to move.

My guess is that I will like it better when I can play it more competently.

And hey! Congrats to your Aussie boys on their TTT yesterday and the yellow jersey!!!


Blocking the right hand chords is difficult but a good start non the less. As this was the most complicated chord changes I had come across up to this point I found it a very useful exercise in itself.

So in my own world with the piano I hadn't seen the news in the last couple of days. A revolt in Egypt and now I am being told an Aussie has done well in the Tour De France....it's all late news to me
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#2112669 - 07/04/13 07:43 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: sinophilia]
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I've decided to put Alfred 3 aside completely. I picked it up again yesterday and it takes me too much time just to read through the pieces in the second half of the book. Most of them are more difficult than the extra stuff I'm working on. I'll be glad to go back to them next year, but for now it will be mainly Burgmuller and Czerny etudes for me, and the beginner pieces in Pianist magazine. Plus I have a few other things I want to try out, such as Les Cinq Doigts and Chopin's Waltz in A minor. And there's my daily sight-reading. No time for Alfred right now!


sinophilia, I don't blame you for putting book 3 aside. It is so frustrating every time I go to learn a new piece just how slow it can take. I have started four pieces at once (bad timing as others have completed almost together) and right now it feels almost like they will never come together. So a good balance of material is important.
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#2112701 - 07/04/13 09:30 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: earlofmar]
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Originally Posted By: malkin

Congrats to your Aussie boys on their TTT yesterday and the yellow jersey!!!

...now I am being told an Aussie has done well in the Tour De France....it's all late news to me


The whole Orica Greenedge team rocked it, and Simon Gerrans is still in yellow today. It's still quite a long ride to Paris.

Sino--best wishes on cutting yourself free of Alfred! I shall miss you on this thread!
Earlofmar--I do love hearing reports of your skip around approach!

I will plod on!
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#2117148 - 07/13/13 06:43 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Mark...]
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I am working on the Star Spangled Banner.
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#2117172 - 07/13/13 07:38 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Mark...]
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#2119749 - 07/18/13 05:31 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: malkin]
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I am working on the Star Spangled Banner.


It is so bad, it could be considered treasonous!
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#2131240 - 08/11/13 01:37 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Mark...]
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Swan Lake is pretty fun!

Easy after the SSB!

It brings up happy memories for me too. When my daughter was about 3 she talked so much that I bought season tickets at the ballet (matinee and in the highest balcony because that was all I could afford) and took her regularly, just so that she would have an opportunity to stop talking for a little while.
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#2131405 - 08/11/13 08:38 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Mark...]
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I'm on "In the Hall of the Mountain King" right now. Took me a while to get through "Come Back to Sorrento".
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#2217757 - 01/20/14 04:50 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Mark...]
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Still Alfreding along...

Finished Jazz Ostinato. My initial go at putting hands together resulted in a kind of paralysis, but then the whole thing just fell into place and seemed to improve noticeably with each play through.

The Tap Dancer
I thought was going to be too dopey, but it is cute and quite fun to play.
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#2217830 - 01/20/14 07:29 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Mark...]
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Congratulations I always liked the sound of Jazz Osinato but never learned it.
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#2218763 - 01/22/14 12:27 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Mark...]
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Hoping to keep this thread alive - not there yet but hope to be starting AIO 3 in a few months. Jazz Ostinato/C minor is one of the pieces I am looking forward to.
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#2219051 - 01/22/14 06:56 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Mark...]
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Given my pace, I'm sure to have more than a few months left!
My new kindle has the feature where it estimates how long the next chapter will take based on my rate; I'd hate to see that calculation at the bottom of my A3!
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#2219151 - 01/22/14 09:42 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Mark...]
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Working towards the end of book 3 the pieces get tougher and this typifies the future where two, three or more months to get a piece to performance is not unheard off. Lets not even get started talking about the advanced section although there are a few in there that are quite doable.
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#2219299 - 01/23/14 07:54 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Mark...]
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The section with Jazz Ostinato, Tap Dancer, and the Hornpipe (started last night) is a bit of a break in difficulty. It's the typical Alfie pedagogy cycle, work the student HARD and then drop in a few easier ones for a break. I think I have about a dozen more, and then the pieces in the Ambitious section which I haven't started, because I am not that ambitious!
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#2221892 - 01/28/14 01:09 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #3 [Re: Mark...]
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Hornpipe isn't quite finished, the next one is already assigned, and I can't work on it without thinking of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXId5jOTxdg
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