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#1080201 - 02/17/08 10:20 PM Classical piece for beginner?
Dave_E Offline
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Registered: 01/05/08
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Hi All,

According to my wife, I am making great progress with my new love for the piano...however, I can't wait to start a classical piece or two.

Here's where I am at present. Alfred's Adult method book 1, just about done. I've supplemented that with the Play by Choice method.

So I'm out to dig into something that's not going to kill me or get me bummed because it's beyond my level (most everything is). I've got the first part of Moonlight Sonata Pt.1 down pat, (4#'s as written), so I can read OK. The elementary stuff in the method books is just killing me.

Dave

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#1080202 - 02/17/08 10:27 PM Re: Classical piece for beginner?
Danny Niklas Offline
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Registered: 01/15/08
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Loc: Switzerland
You might try:

Beethoven Sonatina in G
Mozart Viennese Sonatinas
Bach Anna Magdalena Notebook
Kulauh Sonatinas
Haendel Aylesford Pieces
Tchaikovsky Album for the Young

As you have probably guessed these are small pieces. Don't make the mistake of underestimating them though. These pieces are not only beautiful to play and listen and very effective (and some showy too) but they allow you to learn the important skill of making good music from the beginning.

Just like in cooking it's easier to cover lack of skills when you have a lot of ingredients, in music it is easier to make up for lack of control and musicality when you have long well-known melodic pieces with lot of notes and lot of pedalling. It is far harder to work with very few ingredients because then they must be excellent quality and you must have a lot of skill to valorize them.

Hence the goal of making smaller easier pieces sound extremely beautiful and interesting is a very great pianistic exercise on its own.

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#1080203 - 02/17/08 10:38 PM Re: Classical piece for beginner?
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Registered: 01/18/08
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Also:

Chopin Preludes OP 28, Nos. 4, 6, 7, and 20.

See Alfred Masterwork Edition (28050 book & CD) "Chopin - 14 of his easiest Piano Selections".
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#1080204 - 02/17/08 10:40 PM Re: Classical piece for beginner?
Dave_E Offline
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Hi Danny,

Thanks for the reply. When I was studying classical guitar, that's what Andres Segovia said, I took him up on that and just amazed folks with a simple practice piece or 2. Thanks!

Dave

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#1080205 - 02/17/08 10:48 PM Re: Classical piece for beginner?
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Great suggestions, although I think the Mozart Sonatinas are quite a bit harder than the other pieces.

Add in some pieces from the following:
Burgmuller 25 Easy and Progressive Studies Op 100
Schumann Album for the Young Op 68
Kabalevsky 24 Little Pieces Op 39 & 30 Children's Pieces Op 27
Clementi Sonatinas Op 36

You can get collections of classical pieces. I use the Keith Snell Piano Repertoire series. You are probably right at Level One in the Keith Snell books, although a lot of the easier selections from the above are in Levels 2 and 3.

Some of the easiest pieces in Alfred's Essential Keyboard Repertoire Level 1 would probably be good too.

Rich
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#1080206 - 02/17/08 10:53 PM Re: Classical piece for beginner?
Danny Niklas Offline
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Segovia was a genius of amazing sensitivity.
Talking about the pieces I like them all.
In fact althought I'm late late advanced, I still look for small easy or "for young stududents" pieces because of the charming simplicity (not easiness) nad also for the chance they offer me to focus on trying to make good music with little ingredients.

On second though I like them all except Clementi.
I don't know why but I find Clementi pedantic.
Might be passing throught the gradus ad parnassum torture effect ... not sure.

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#1080207 - 02/17/08 11:51 PM Re: Classical piece for beginner?
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I second Burgmuller. His Op 100 has a lot of good beginners pieces, and once you are a little more advanced, try out some pieces from his Op 109.

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#1080208 - 02/19/08 03:12 AM Re: Classical piece for beginner?
Ken. Offline
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I just had my first piano lesson and was given:
Soldier's March by Schumann, Op 68, No.2
German Dance in A Major (Beethoven) WoO 13 No.11
Menuet fait par Mons. Bohm by Bach
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#1080209 - 02/19/08 03:42 AM Re: Classical piece for beginner?
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You'd like the 3rd prelude of Bach's 12 Little Preludes. It was probably originally for lute. I first learnt it on guitar. Stay away from the 6 Little Preludes - they're rubbish and not by Bach.
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#1080210 - 02/19/08 03:57 AM Re: Classical piece for beginner?
Danny Niklas Offline
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Originally posted by keyboardklutz:
You'd like the 3rd prelude of Bach's 12 Little Preludes.[/b]
Excellent advice! That prelude is gorgeous.
Could you please elaborate on the 6 preludes not being written by Bach? I really didn't know that. But I think n.3 BWV935 and n.5 BWV937 are nice.

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#1080211 - 02/19/08 04:11 AM Re: Classical piece for beginner?
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Danny Niklas:
 Quote:
Originally posted by keyboardklutz:
You'd like the 3rd prelude of Bach's 12 Little Preludes.[/b]
Excellent advice! That prelude is gorgeous.
Could you please elaborate on the 6 preludes not being written by Bach? I really didn't know that. But I think n.3 BWV935 and n.5 BWV937 are nice. [/b]
First you want to play them. They don't feel right. No. 4 goes up to e''' which is out of range of Bach's instrument. No. 5 down to BBB - also out of range. Search through Wolff - you won't find a single mention.
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#1080212 - 02/24/08 08:49 PM Re: Classical piece for beginner?
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Loc: Massapequa, NY
 Quote:
Here's where I am at present. Alfred's Adult method book 1, just about done. I've supplemented that with the Play by Choice method.

So I'm out to dig into something that's not going to kill me or get me bummed because it's beyond my level (most everything is). I've got the first part of Moonlight Sonata Pt.1 down pat, (4#'s as written), so I can read OK. The elementary stuff in the method books is just killing me.[/b]
I have "My first book of Classical Music" by Bergerac. These are all in easy piano arrangements so that you can learn some of the most popular pieces that Chopin, Mozart, Beethoven, Bach and others have composed. It has finger markings which is good for adult beginners. My favorite is "Surprise Symphony" by Hadyn (which I played on the violin for a school performance). Curious how it would sound on a piano....

- Mark
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#1080213 - 02/24/08 09:45 PM Re: Classical piece for beginner?
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I didn't realize the 6 Little Preludes were not written by Bach. I just check Williams, and also Wolff, and could't find reference to them in either book. I guess you're right about that.

Nonetheless, I think it's kind of unfair to refer to them as "rubbish." I like them, although No. 5 (BWV 937) is not very appealing to my ear. Nos. 2, 4 and 6 I like quite a lot. (By the way, the BWV numbers are consecutive -- 933-938.) Do we know who wrote these preludes? And why they are attributed to Bach?

FWIW, I like No. 3 of the 12 Little Preludes quite a bit, and it is one of the next pieces on my list. I play No. 5 (not perfectly quite yet), and am learnign No. 2 now. After No. 3, I will do No. 4.


Edit: I can't find any reference to the 12 Little Preludes in Williams or in Wolff, either. Maybe the absence of a reference in these works does not indicate that Bach did not write them? (Note: I've mostly read Wolff, but just purchased Williams.)

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#1080214 - 02/25/08 10:35 PM Re: Classical piece for beginner?
Dave_E Offline
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Registered: 01/05/08
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Loc: Stanwood, WA
Thanks again for all the replys. Today I turn the page in my "play by Choice" song book and there is the whole first page of For Elis. "Wow" I thought, but after 30 minutes had the first strain (to the intro repeat)down and ripped through it like a recording. So I'm thinking "this has got to be an 'easy piano' version", but I have the sheet music for this. They're the same... so Fur Elis is going to be the first classical piece I'll try to memorize and perfect. Pretty common repetoire piece isn't it?

Dave

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