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I have these books on my computer. If anyone has any experience with these let me know. I only really have heard people talk about hanon. Needless to say I feel like its a piano library I may never crack.
Berens - 20 Children Studies, op 79 Berens - 50 Piano Pieces for Beginners, op 70 Berens - The School of Scales, Chords & Embellishments, Op 88 Berens - Training of the Left Hand, op 89 Bertini - 24 Studies, op 29 Bertini - 25 Easy Studies, Op 100 Brahms - 51 Exercises Burgmuller - 12 Brilliant and Melodious Studies Burgmuller - 18 Characteristic Studies, op 109 Burgmuller - 25 Easy and Progressive Studies, op 100 Concone - 25 Melodic Studies, Op 24 Cramer - 84 Studies Czerny - 100 Progressive Studies, op 139 Czerny - 110 Easy and Progressive Exercises, op 453 Czerny - 125 Exercises in Passage Playing, op 216 Czerny - 160 Eight-Measure Exercises, op 821 Czerny - 24 Piano Studies for the Left Hand Czerny - 30 New Studies in Technics Czerny - 40 Daily Exercises, op 337 Czerny - Octave Studies, Op553 Czerny - Preliminary School of Finger Dexterity, op 636 Czerny - Practical Finger Exercises Czerny - The Art of Finger Dexterity, op 740 Czerny - The Little Pianist, op 823 Czerny - The School of Velocity, Op 299 Duvernoy - Ecole Primaire, 25 Elementary Studies, op 176 Duvernoy - The School of Mechanism, Op 120 Gurlitt - Albumleaves for the Young, op 101 Gurlitt - Easiest Studies in Velocity, op 83 Gurlitt - School of Velocity, op 141 Hanon - The Virtuoso Pianist Heller - 25 Melodious Studies, op 45 Heller - 25 Studies, op 47 Heller - 30 Progressive Studies Heller - 50 Selected Studies Herz - Scales and Exercises Kohler - 12 Easy Studies, 157 Kohler - Short School of Velocity, op 242 Kullak - The School of Octave Playing, sec 1 preliminary school Kullak - The School of Octave Playing, sec 2 seven studies Le Couppey - The Alphabet, Op 17 Macfarren - Scale and Arpeggio Manual Moszkowski - 15 Etudes de Virtuosite, op 72 Philipp - Complete School of Technic for the Piano Pischna - Technical Studies: 60 Progressive Exercises Pischna - The Little Pischna, 48 Practice Pieces Plaidy - Technical Studies Schmitt - Preparatory Exercises, op 16 Schulz - Scales and Chords Stamaty - Rhythmic Training for the Fingers Streabbog - 12 Easy and Melodious Studies, Op 64 Streabbog - 12 Very Easy and Melodious Studies, op 63 Wieck - Piano Studies
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if you have any idea of which ones are better to start with.
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The Heller will be the most beautiful. The Phillip the best for building strength. Wieck has short lyrical exercises - he taught Schumann who ran off with his daughter.
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that post is hyper-informative, and jam packed with information. i like it
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rockonswitch,
Welcome to the forums. I take it you are a total beginner, and my suggestions below are based on that.
Czerny Opus 823, and Opus 599 are like a set of studies for playing piano. You should be able to find a download of Opus 599 to add to your collection. Both books cover about the same level, so work them at the same time. Czerny Opus 139 starts close to the same level, but IMO progresses past the other two. Note that Czerny starts with both hands playing treble clef then adds in the bass clef.
Bertini Opus 70 looks like the same type of pieces.
Streabbog Opus 63 would be good to play for more musical pieces than most of the above.
Instead of the Hanon or Phillip, I would start with Schmitt. It is much less stressful for a beginner. CAUTION: Be very careful with these three composers. These are exercises for building strength and evenness and can easliy be overdone. Stop at the slightest sign of any discomfort. The addage "No Pain, No Gain" has no place in practicing or playing piano!
After you have finished Streabbog Opus 63 and about the time you are about half way through the Czerny I mentioned, you could move on to the following works on your list: Streabbog Opus 64 Burgmueller Opus 100 Berens Opus 70 & 79 Bertini Opus 29 & 100 Gurlitt Opus 101
My teacher has me working through Concone, and they are interesting for isolating one or two technical skills and harder than the above works I've mentioned. I would also say that the Heller and Cramer works would be about the same level as the Concone.
Hope this helps. Rich
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What exactly do you want to know? "Which ones are better to start with" - for whom? A beginner? How long have you been playing? What can you play? Do you want someone to list all these in difficulty order? Tell you which ones are easiest? hardest? There's a pretty big range here, even in the Czerny listed. Some are exercises, some are studies and some, while being studies, are principally very musical pieces. I think you need to give a bit more information, otherwise people will just say "I like Burgmuller op.100". Actually, I do like Burgmuller op.100. I have the music for a lot of these, but it would take a while to drag them all out and look through them, so it would be helpful to know exactly what question we might be answering. If you were to do a search on the Brahms exercises, the Pischna, Philipp and Schmidt, you'd find a lot has been said about these in the Pianists' Corner. And as for Hanon, well . . . there should be about 100 threads there
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Oh, and you may want to start looking for downloads of some simpler pieces by: Bach Beethoven Mozart Schubert Schumann Tchaikovsky Clementi
I'm sure I can come up with a bunch of other composers as well. You would want to start adding some of these about the same time as the Burgmueller, Berens and Bertini.
Rich
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How did you get all those books on your computer? Did you join a site that let's you download, or buy each one sepretely, if so, where did you find so much music available electronically? Thanks so much.
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Stacey E, Since I have the exact same collection, I can tell you where rockonswitch got this set. This is the Piano Studies and Exercises CD from www.cdsheetmusic.com You can also order this from www.sheetmusicplus.com Here's the link to order it from there: Piano Studies and Exercises Rich
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I'm not a complete beginner. I took a few years of lesson in 2nd through 4th grade. now i'm 22. i figured out this song by ear and can play it pretty well. I still get caught up in the chorus every once in while. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKbMwpKt470 the "no pain no gain" comment wouldve been good a few months ago. i was doing that with hannon now i get aches in my hands. on the whole, my goal in piano playing is to be able to connect the music in my head to what i play on the keyboard as if my hands weren't even there and my mind was triggering the keys. i know i'm far away from that. So I more than anything i'm looking to get beyond the limitations i have now when i sit at a piano. i'm not a good sight reader, and don't necessarily aim to be. but i know it necessary at times, but when i learned guitar i feel i lost many years of ear training by reading music instead of listening to it and playing what i hear. very simply i want what is in my head to come out in a piano. i know these books develop skills, which ones would be the most helpful in achieving my goal. rich is right about the collection.
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Your goal is a excellent one. It would help to start doing some sight singing in your head. Get a book of simple folk tunes to start with. I'm a great advocate of Solfa.
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Welcome to the forums Rocketonswitch! I gather from the other post you are more like an advanced beginner. I looked at the files you mentioned (I have some of them too). I would not stress out as some of the exercises can be quite difficult when played to speed. That why I started off with the Alfred Adult Piano books which I found very good for my needs. Learning to play piano is like building muscle when exercising. By breaking up the practice session (and the music you are playing) into small parts, you will develop your skills and experience more joy playing the piano then if you went "force brute" resulting in no progress. Piano playing is a journey in itself. Make it a pleasurable experience and take your time learning. - Mark
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I'm a fan of Burgmuller and Hanon myself. Along with that I have the complete scale book by Alfred which is also highly useful. I might look into some Czerny in the future though.
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I suggest you look up each composer - teacher whose works you have collected! Google?
That will tell you a lot about their source and I think it's as relevant as doing the exercises - to know the source and era.
Good luck!
Betty
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