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#1086353 - 03/23/05 04:39 PM Re: Hands Together Challenge
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I have found it's easier to learn a piece that has words to it, especially if it's a tune I know. Many of my method pieces are like that. I sing along. \:\)
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#1086354 - 03/24/05 06:57 AM Re: Hands Together Challenge
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Oooh, Jerry wears sunglasses, rides horses, flies planes and *sings!*

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#1086355 - 03/24/05 08:09 AM Re: Hands Together Challenge
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Oh, yeah, baby. If we ever have an AB get-together, you are in for a treat. \:D
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#1086356 - 03/24/05 02:50 PM Re: Hands Together Challenge
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Singing definitely works, Jerry, and knowing the tune. I hum the tune ALL the time. My teacher told me Glen Gould hummed so loud you could it in the recording!
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#1086357 - 03/25/05 10:03 AM Re: Hands Together Challenge
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Jerry,

I've only been at the piano since the middle of January. I'm just finishing Alfreds first book, and I can play the version of the Entertainer in his book very well. I think the thing that has helped me is I've worked on a lot of blues pieces while working through Alfred's book.

My teacher directed me to "Teach Yourself to Play Blues at the Keyboard" by Bert Konowitz. It starts out with some very basic blues pieces, but gets difficult quickly - at least for my skill level. Every piece has syncopation and different "rhythms" for each hand....I hear myself saying "syncopation" in my sleep.

I don't know if you like blues or not, but playing it has definitely helped me put the two hands together. Just a suggestion.

Have you made any progress with The Entertainer? That's just too good of a piece to give up on. I have loved that song ever since I was a child. My grandmother would always play it for me.

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#1086358 - 03/25/05 03:17 PM Re: Hands Together Challenge
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troy1troy-

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm not really a blues man. And I have been able to play a recognizable version of The Entertainer in the 3 months that have passed since I started this thread. It was just good enough (in my opinion) to let me move on and finish Alfred's book 1.
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#1086359 - 03/25/05 05:23 PM Re: Hands Together Challenge
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The answer to this, among many other questions, is in the book Fundamentals of Piano Practice by Chuan C Chung, search on google and it'll take you to Chang's site where you can download the book. It's fantastic. My playing has taken a quantum leap since I started reading it. \:\)
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#1086360 - 03/26/05 09:17 AM Re: Hands Together Challenge
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Originally posted by Jerry Luke:
Ok, here is my problem. I can play somewhat successfully hands together if both the treble & bass notes fall on the beat. If one or the other falls between beats, it messes me all up. In other words, if I'm pressing the finger(s) of both hands down at the SAME time, I can keep the rhythm. If I have chords or bass notes between held or syncopated melody notes, it's all over, even if I can play the parts beautifully hands separate. This is killing me while I'm trying to learn "The Entertainer" from Alfred's Book 1, because there are so many 8th notes in the melody, and the bass notes are all quarter notes.

Is there any exercise I can do away from the piano to break the interdependence of my hands? Can I rub my tummy and pat my head or something? Anything to learn independence of hands![/b] [/b]
if you have problem with putting hands together, do some tapping exercise away from the piano, you can use RH and LH tapping exactly what's in music, just without playing so that you can focus totally on rhythm and cordination.

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#1086361 - 04/03/05 01:04 PM Re: Hands Together Challenge
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by princessclara2005:
[QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Jerry Luke:
[qb] Ok, here is my problem. I can play somewhat successfully hands together if both the treble & bass notes fall on the beat. If one or the other falls between beats, it messes me all up. In other words, if I'm pressing the finger(s) of both hands down at the SAME time, I can keep the rhythm. If I have chords or bass notes between held or syncopated melody notes, it's all over, even if I can play the parts beautifully hands separate. This is killing me while I'm trying to learn "The Entertainer" from Alfred's Book 1, because there are so many 8th notes in the melody, and the bass notes are all quarter notes.

-i have the same problem.
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