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#1090444 - 10/18/07 07:11 PM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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25/10 is not that bad. I had it learned about halfway up to the B section at one point many years ago. You'll have fun with it!
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#1090445 - 10/18/07 07:16 PM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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Originally posted by LisztAddict:
I could never quite get that 25/6 up to speed. 10/2 was also on the slow side. \:\( [/b]
JBiegel had advice that sounded similar to the advice you gave regarding 28/8. Practice the 3-4-5 (top) RH fingers loud and legato, and the 1-2 softer and staccato.

Having put this to the test for just a couple of days it seemed to help considerably, and perhaps with a long, sustained effort would provide (part of) the key...
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#1090446 - 10/18/07 07:25 PM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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This should be formally announced. We're all making grabs at random etudes, but there's no date or anything.
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#1090447 - 10/18/07 07:29 PM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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You are right. When would you want to do it? I don't think anthing sooner than next summer is realistic, esp. considering the priority of the first Mazurka event.

There is also the danger of some choices that would have to be made, too, between Mazurkas and X. Obviously, with three Mazurka recitals, we would not want to put everything else on hold for the next year and a half would we?

I am liking the idea of the Etudes though... Let's let it simmer for a bit and see if others have some ideas about the timing/format.
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#1090448 - 10/18/07 07:51 PM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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Not that my opinion means much, but do you think you could find enough people in the ABF forum to cover each etude (they're rather hard)? Maybe you could enlist help from Pianist Corner?
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#1090449 - 10/18/07 07:55 PM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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If anyone is starting an Etuditon - 10/12 IS MINE.
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#1090450 - 10/18/07 07:58 PM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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To answer your question: No, I do not.

Moreover, some are not interested in Etudes and the thrill of technical challenge - nor is it the be-all and end-all of music. I know that Kathleen is not, for example - yet she plays with more sensitivity and feeling than most of us will ever dream, which simply shows that technical mastery does not necessarily equate to musicianship.

That said, I daresay a subset of us from the Preludes event relish these challenges - you, me, playadom, LisztAddict, jazzyprof, maybe Piano Again, and a few others... An Etudes event would loads of fun - and REALLY push us!

Edit: I remember this being discussed in Pianist's Corner. I do not spend much time there because I'm somewhat intimidated - not so much by the skill as by the attitudes of certain members. I really wish there was something on PW between "Beginner" and "Concert Pianist capable of performing HammerKlavier" \:\( Just a simple "Classical Pianists - non-pro" category would be excellent and would help everyone.
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#1090451 - 10/18/07 07:59 PM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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Originally posted by -Frycek:
If anyone is starting an Etuditon - 10/12 IS MINE. [/b]
Yeah! That's the spirit, Frycek! \:D
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#1090452 - 10/18/07 08:05 PM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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I don't think it would be wise to wait a year and a half to start the Etude recital. Starting next March would be best. There more time March to October than October to March, and with the Etudes, more time is good. Or perhaps a March to March for extra practice time.
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#1090453 - 10/18/07 08:21 PM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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Yep, and it would provide exactly a year beginning NOW! (You can practice two or more pieces at a time, reasonably up to four I read somewhere.)

The next question is, should Etudes be held concurrently with the Mazurkas? I'm only playing one of the Mazurkas, for next March, but others may be playing in all three; guess they would have to make a choice - or do both!
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#1090454 - 10/18/07 08:41 PM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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I'm already learning several pieces right now, so perhaps starting now wouldn't be wise. I'm only playing the first Mazurka recital.
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#1090455 - 10/18/07 08:44 PM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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3/1/08 Mazurka I
10/17/08 Etudes (or Op 10?)
3/1/09 Mazurka II
10/17/09 Something else?? (or Op 25?)
4/1/09 Mazurka III???

Just a suggestion - or maybe the etudes could divided into two recitals - op10 and op 25?
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#1090456 - 10/18/07 08:48 PM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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Hmm. This plan looks good Etude-wise. I think that 2009 might be a little bit of a stretch for the Mazurka III recital, but I'm only playing in the first one, so I'm fine with that.
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#1090457 - 10/18/07 08:50 PM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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That is a very logical scheduling, Frycek. We'll have to get Kathleen's take, but staggering the Mazurkas seems wise. I esp. like Mazurkas being in the Springtime.
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#1090458 - 10/18/07 08:51 PM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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And after the first Mazurka recital they may decide there's only enought left for one more - who knows?
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#1090459 - 10/18/07 08:53 PM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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A lot are being played now. And most of the harder ones are going early.

We could do Mazurka-Etude-Mazurka.
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#1090460 - 10/18/07 11:46 PM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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No Mazurka for me. I have way too much on my plate already. But one Etude for Oct 2008 is doable.

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#1090461 - 10/19/07 06:07 AM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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October 2008? Why so late?
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#1090462 - 10/19/07 07:17 AM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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Originally posted by AQP87:
October 2008? Why so late? [/b]
They're the Etudes!
If you can learn them good in a short period of time, go ahead.
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#1090463 - 10/19/07 08:42 AM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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I know they're etudes, but it's a whole year... Some of them can take you a month or two, but not a year...
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#1090464 - 10/19/07 08:52 AM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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...what is happening here? I went to bed early last night, and I wake up to find that an Etude "Recital" might be in the works.

As Greg mentioned, I am not ready to take on even the easiest (ha). And where is the Marzurka Marathon in all of this? Mazurkas are within the reach of most of us; whereas the etudes (in my opinion) are for the "elite" of us. Those who have the technical skills...this is what I mean by "the elite."

Just a suggestion, naturally...but if someone wants to take the reins of a Etude Recital, that's wonderful. However, I believe something like this belongs in the Pianists' Corner. And I hope would be scheduled at least 3 months from the Mazurka Marathon. I have a fear that we are going to over-saturate "the market", and, as a result, all the recitals will lose their appeal and specialness, for lack of a better word.

I am in awe of anyone who can play an etude (any of them!!), so I am not being a negative Nelly here. Just asking that we give some thought to how, when and where such a recital takes place.

My best to all of you...[green with envy]
Kathleen
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#1090465 - 10/19/07 09:53 AM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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I agree with you, Kathleen. The Mazurkas are of different technical levels, and a Mazurka Marathon can be a recital with both new and not so new pianist.
Even if they are not grade 10, I would like to hear someone admit that they think they are piece of cake to interpret.....

I guess I'm just envious too, since I never will be able to play an Etude, but seems to me that an Etude recital belongs in Pianist Corner - the term "Beginner" and Chopin Etude does not go together in my head.....

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#1090466 - 10/20/07 08:48 AM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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Nor mine, Ragnhild.

Kathleen
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#1090467 - 10/20/07 10:08 AM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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Along these lines, I think that people of our collective level can really contribute valid interpretations of the mazurkas (as we did for the preludes) but perhaps not for the etudes.

And are we forgetting the waltzes? ;\)
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#1090468 - 10/20/07 10:24 AM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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And are we forgetting the waltzes?
And the Nocturnes?
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#1090469 - 10/20/07 10:34 AM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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No way would I forget about either...the nocturnes or the waltzes. I thought, perhaps, the nocturnes next and then the waltzes. But this isn't written in stone.

We could take a vote. Would that mean then that we would be having a recital every 3 months to cover all viable genre before...the turn of the century??


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#1090470 - 10/20/07 10:48 AM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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I think three every three months is too short a time frame for good preparation and we should stick to October and March recitals as originally intended. Chopin thoughtfully died six months after his birthday, it's the least we can do. If an etude recital is too "exclusive" perhaps one could be scheduled as a "double feature" with next October's Mazurka Marathon.
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#1090471 - 10/20/07 11:30 AM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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I do agree with those who feel that the words "Chopin Etude" and "Adult Beginner" do not belong in the same sentence. In fact, according to Carl Mikuli (Chopin's teaching assistant) speaking of the Master's pedagogical style: "Only far-advanced pupils were given his Etudes, Op. 10 and Op. 25." The Nocturnes and Waltzes are a lot more accessible and would encourage the involvement of many more adult beginners. We could have, say, a Night of Nocturnes. \:D
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#1090472 - 10/20/07 11:38 AM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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a Night of Nocturnes.
Wow...I like that.
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#1090473 - 10/20/07 11:47 AM Re: Online Chopin Prelude Recital TODAY! :)
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I agree that 3 months is not enough time...it was only something I threw out there, and I'm glad you threw it back at me.

Boy, when I think back many months ago and how we wanted our own Chopin Forum. Well, we got it, in spades! And we're all over the place now. So much so I can't keep track.

Anyhow, the etudes belong to the elite. So for us, it's the mazurkas first, then the nocturnes/or waltzes to follow in 6 month intervals. I like the Night of Nocturnes (a bit redundant, since nocturne does sort of mean might, but that's OK. It has a most romantic ring to it.) What about the waltzes? Wonderful World of Waltzes. Nah...sounds too much like a Disney production.

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