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#1094674 - 08/09/04 10:03 AM Student Recitals?
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Does your teacher have Student Recitals?

Do you play in them?

Does your teacher have other adult students?

Are you the only adult on the program???

For bonus points, and a tie-in to the "first piece" thread, what was the first piece you played in a Student Recital (as an adult if you are a retread)?

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#1094675 - 08/09/04 10:15 AM Re: Student Recitals?
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My teacher doesn't have recitals. He does have other adult students.

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#1094676 - 08/09/04 10:41 AM Re: Student Recitals?
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Yes, no, yes, no. My teacher says that if I want to play in a recital I can, but evidently none of the adults do this(big surprise).
Jon
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#1094677 - 08/09/04 01:57 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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Does your teacher have Student Recitals? Yes

Do you play in them? No

Does your teacher have other adult students? Yes

For the adult students she has informal get togethers at her house with food and wine, and everyone plays something. This only is done once or twice a year. We all had the choice regarding the more formal studio recital - and all declined to play.

First song I played was a Franz Schubert Waltz OP 18 No. 5. It is sure hard to play anything when you hands are shaking!

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#1094678 - 08/09/04 03:09 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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(waves to mom/3) Hi, neighbor.

Yeah, it's really hard to play when the keys are all moving around on the keyboard like that, isn't it?

After my first recital, I think it took a good ten minutes for my hands to stop shaking.

Some performers love the rush. They say, "I never feel more alive than when I am playing on stage." For me, it was more like a near-death experience.

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#1094679 - 08/09/04 03:24 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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Mom,

I like the idea of an informal get together rather than a recital. My teacher has been a bit vague about the recitals but I have already told him that it isn't happening with me. :p

Due to vacations our lesson schedules got moved around a bit. As it worked out there was a level 9 student right before my lesson. I listened to this cute 17 year old girl play the heck out of the same piano that I struggle with every week. No way am I going to play anywhere near her. \:\(
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#1094680 - 08/09/04 03:45 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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Great thread, PJ!

Does your teacher have Student Recitals? [/b]Yes, three a year. She also has monthly "group class" where all of the students come together at her house and play their pieces, just to get some extra chances to work out the kinks.

Do you play in them? [/b] Yes. My daughters have to play, so I figure I have to set them a good example. My teacher was willing to give me a pass, but I wanted to start doing recitals because I figured the sooner I got over the nerves, the better. It's just, um, taking a lot longer than I figured. I still get balled up in knots every time (and yes, the keyboard does seem to move during a performance!). I played my first recital after 18 months of lessons.

Does your teacher have other adult students? [/b] Yes, but I'm the only adult beginner. It's lonely at the bottom! ;\) The single freakiest thing about performing in that setting is that I stick out like a sore thumb among all the cute little girls in pig tails, plus the fact that I'm playing for people I have to interact with the rest of the year. I think I get the sympathy vote, though, and everyone is very positive in their remarks to me, thankfully.

Are you the only adult on the program???[/b] Nope, but the others are much more advanced. There is one other intermediate-advanced mom returning to lessons, and her stage fright is worse than mine, if that's possible.
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#1094681 - 08/09/04 07:04 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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Does your teacher have Student Recitals?[/b] Yes, three times a year. Though we call them "workshops"!

Do you play in them?[/b] I have

Does your teacher have other adult students?[/b] Yes, there are 6 of us, all women.

Are you the only adult on the program???[/b] See Above

For bonus points, and a tie-in to the "first piece" thread, what was the first piece you played in a Student Recital (as an adult if you are a retread)?[/b]
I had to play a Bach prelude the first time, a disaster.(It didn't help that the parents in the audience were the "Who's Who" of our little town, a Selectman, School Board member etc. YIKES! Here I was with the kids butchering Bach!! )

Second time was "First Loss" by Schumann, played pretty well (my teacher plays back the tape at the next lesson)

After having played with the kids for about 2 years, I got tired of hearing Twinkle Twinkle and Penguin Blues ad nauseam. I suggested we do an adults only program, and we have done that ever since. Much more relaxed, we can commiserate on our nervous feelings and encourage each other.

We now have taken it to a different level and have started Round Robin to each other's houses. I hosted the first, the next was on a Golden era M+H, next we are off to a Kimball spinet! It has turned out to be lots of fun, great experience and takes the pressure off our teacher to host all the time..
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#1094682 - 08/09/04 07:12 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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BeeLady,

What a wonderful idea! I'd love to get together with some of the other adults and get to know them better. I think suggest it!

Thanks!
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#1094683 - 08/09/04 07:16 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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And Cindy, you can have wine at the adults recitals!!!! We do reserve it for AFTER performance however... :rolleyes:
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#1094684 - 08/09/04 08:58 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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Does your teacher have Student Recitals?
Yes 2-3 per year

Do you play in them?

She does not make it mandatory but leaves it open as an option. I didn't play in the first one but played in the last one. Working through stage fright issues so I am trying to take advantage of opportunities to play in front of other people.

Does your teacher have other adult students?

Yes

Are you the only adult on the program???

One of the other adults she teaches was the only adult student in the first recital (since I went back to lessons) and it was me and him at the last one. I went first and he last. Of course our teacher always plays at the recital too but of course she is much more advanced than the rest of us. Like Cindy I also think if you have children playing it's great to try to set an example. I also think if I was the only adult I would be less likely to put myself out there you don't feel like you stick out so bad when there is another adult on the program.

For bonus points, and a tie-in to the "first piece" thread, what was the first piece you played in a Student Recital (as an adult if you are a retread)?

I'm a retread and my first recital coming back to piano I played a Bach Invention (No.8) and a Rachmaninoff Etude Tableau (the one in G minor). Actually the first time I played the Rach it was in an amateur competition and it went really bad \:\( but when I played it at the recital it wasn't completely disastrous it actually kind of went somewhat well.

Cathy

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#1094685 - 08/09/04 10:14 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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Wine after? Nope, we drink before we play, the idea being we will be more relaxed...

I don't play in the recitals that my daughter does, and my excuse is I want that performance and time to be about her and the progress she has made.

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#1094686 - 08/09/04 10:25 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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Great excuse Mom! \:D Not a bad excuse for drinking wine either. ;\)

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#1094687 - 08/10/04 06:40 AM Re: Student Recitals?
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Hi everybody - I've been lurking around this site for a bit, finally registered today. Thought I'd introduce myself and respond to this post. my name is Paul, I'm 28 years old, have been a bass player (jazz/fusion) for the last 10 years, and about 10 months ago I decided on a whim to start taking piano lessons and it has been amazing. It has truly had a profound impact on my musicianship. Anyway, I hope to soon post some MP3's in the recording forum of my recent recital performance, which leads me to responses to this thread!

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Does your teacher have Student Recitals?
Yes, one so far.

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Do you play in them?
Yes I did! (though I was nervous, even though playing bass on stage in front of a crowd never bothered me, sitting in front of a quiet crowd to perform solo piano was quite another story!)

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Does your teacher have other adult students?
Yes, 2 or 3 and probably 10 kids.

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Are you the only adult on the program???
I was the only adult on the recital! I wasn't aware of this until I showed up. Felt kinda funny \:\)

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For bonus points, and a tie-in to the "first piece" thread, what was the first piece you played in a Student Recital (as an adult if you are a retread)?
Chopin Waltz in A-minor (Op. Posth.)

Anyway - I recorded that very recital, and made up nice labels and gave CD copies to all the kids/families. I'll try to post my pieces later on tonight or so.

-Paul
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#1094688 - 08/10/04 07:58 AM Re: Student Recitals?
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"gave CD copies to all the kids/families"

No pressure. I can hear it now... "now Jimmie, do a good job with your Fur Elise because we're going to be playing that CD to all your friends and relatives for years to come". \:D

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#1094689 - 08/10/04 08:49 AM Re: Student Recitals?
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Paul, Welcome to the Forum!

And may I be the first to say . . .

**WOW!!**

I won't even let my husband video record my recitals. I'd prefer that my in-laws stop coming, sitting there sweetly with three huge bunches of flowers for me and their granddaughters. I'd prefer that the audience just talk quietly among themselves while I'm playing, actually, and stop with all the *staring.*

Maybe I should just be a lounge performer.

Cindy -- who loves that Chopin Waltz and still counts it among her favorites and thinks it is a great piece for adults because it sounds so very classy
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#1094690 - 08/10/04 09:55 AM Re: Student Recitals?
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Originally posted by Cindysphinx:
Maybe I should just be a lounge performer.[/b]
Hey, now there's a thought! Instead of having a glass of wine yourself before performing, only play when the audience thoroughly sauced and not really paying any attention to you.

That should eliminate all traces of stage fright.

And you should be able to get away with a repertoire of only three or four pieces, and you can just play them over and over. Nobody will remember what you were playing ten minutes ago.
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#1094691 - 08/10/04 02:17 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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Yes my new teacher has them. I've only been with her since June so I haven't played in one yet, but I will within the next few weeks. I keep forgetting to ask if she has other adult students - don't think so.

My old teacher in San Diego had several a year. I played because I figured I had to do it until I didn't get nervous anymore. Never happened.

First Recital - Fur Elise - could barely keep my shaking fingers on the keyboard.

2nd Recital - Gershwin's Prelude II - Better, but still shaking - foot shook pretty bad too. I pedal barefoot.

3rd Recital - Debussy's Golligwog's Cakewalk. This one was the best because she used a big hall and I got to play on a Steinway 9' Concert Grand. I because so absorbed in the piano that I forgot there were people out there. I actually didn't shake too much that time.

Then we moved and I escaped that obligation. Actually, I think it will be better now. I dont' get nervous in piano stores, Costco - places like that where there are pianos. I try to play in front of people so I can get over it!!!
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#1094692 - 08/10/04 02:54 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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"2nd Recital - Gershwin's Prelude II - Better, but still shaking - foot shook pretty bad too. I pedal barefoot."

Teachum,

Do you usually get a pedicure before a recital? If so would you only get it on one foot or both?
Do you walk out with only one shoe on, both shoes on, or no shoes on? Also, what about sox how do they fit in the mix. \:D

You know your making this way too much fun :p
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#1094693 - 08/10/04 03:16 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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I wish my teacher organised recitals.
Apart from my partner, she is the only person I play in front of.
I felt really self-conscious playing at my exams to the examiner and knowing that the other people in the waiting room were listening aswell.
Luckily, I make my worst mistakes at the beginning in the scales section. My pride kicks in then and I'm able to raise my game. Daft psychology I know. :rolleyes:
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#1094694 - 08/10/04 07:24 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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Originally posted by Frank R:
"2nd Recital - Gershwin's Prelude II - Better, but still shaking - foot shook pretty bad too. I pedal barefoot."

Teachum,

Do you usually get a pedicure before a recital? If so would you only get it on one foot or both?
Do you walk out with only one shoe on, both shoes on, or no shoes on? Also, what about sox how do they fit in the mix. \:D

You know your making this way too much fun :p [/b]
Typical of me to lay myself wide-open. That's me. Sign on my back says "Kick me, make fun of me, I'm gullible." Hmmm - pedicure - I could certainly use one. But no - I don't get one. I walk out with both shoes on then kick one off. No sox - but you have to remember to put your shoe back on before you take a bow and walk off! Hopefully it hasn't crawled too far away. Otherwise you go CLUMP,clump,CLUMP, clump..
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#1094695 - 08/10/04 08:15 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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Teachum,

Great response . Actually I'm the same way, give um a big smile and take one right in the chops. You're a good sport.

Keep peddlin. ;\)
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#1094696 - 08/11/04 06:07 AM Re: Student Recitals?
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No pressure. I can hear it now... "now Jimmie, do a good job with your Fur Elise because we're going to be playing that CD to all your friends and relatives for years to come".
Funny, that hadn't even occured to me, or the teacher! I just thought it would be nice! I didn't hear anybody mention being nervous about a recording.. I just had two good mics discretly placed about halfway back (which was too far away, but that's another topic on another board) but I cleaned up the recording pretty well in the computer.

It's funny, a little kid was playing Fur Elise, he did an amazing job with it, but there was this dog outside, barking, IN TIME even, everybody thought it was a kid in the audience being bad but nope, a dog.. got louder and louder, didn't phase the kid playing one bit!

Anyway - yeah, I love that Chopin waltz as well. Tastefull, but great opportunity for some expressive playing and showing off some chops on those fluid right hand runs. I'm hoping to tackle the Bb Nocturne in the coming months.

Right now I'm working on Schumann's "Knight Rupert" (spelled in English 'cause I don't want to hack the spelling of it ;-).. I can almost get through it at the right speed (quarter note is 126, it's pretty much all 16th notes, alternating both hands, in 2/4.. ack!)

I didn't get around to posting sounds last night, hopefully tonight!

-Paul
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#1094697 - 08/11/04 02:00 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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Does your teacher have Student Recitals?
Yes. We have one regular recital each year. My teacher's mother is also a piano teacher, and they combine their recitals. In addition, the adults have a holiday potluck recital and ensemble thing around Xmas. The kids have a halloween one that mandates costumes.

Do you play in them?
Yes.

Does your teacher have other adult students?
Yes. She has had two or three other adults at any given time during the three years I have been taking lessons from her. All of them are retreads. She also teaches harp and most of her harp students are adult beginners.

Are you the only adult on the program???
I am usually the only adult piano student. Most of the adult harp students also play.

For bonus points, and a tie-in to the "first piece" thread, what was the first piece you played in a Student Recital (as an adult if you are a retread)?
It was a Bach Bouree. I don't remember the number. I guess I don't qualify for the bonus points. Also there was another piece I don't really remember...I can find the program to jog my memory. A kid at that recital played the same Bach Bouree, but only the first line and a half of it.

It's a little disconcerting to be in the middle of a program where most of the rest of the performers aren't even old enough to drive. The Performance Anxiety is better some days, worse on others.

Last year's xmas recital was a bust. We usually have six or eight harps and a couple of adult piano students. We practice a few holiday songs on our own, then attempt to play them as an ensemble. Since there's only one piano there, I bring a couple of recorders (a tenor and a bass) to play on the ensemble pieces. Then each person does a solo piece. I had a little Bach Minuet prepared, but I totally bombed. I was also the only guy there. I think there was too much estrogen in the room.

This spring, I played pretty well at the regular recital. It was my first Scarlatti piece and I was pretty pumped to be able to share it.

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#1094698 - 08/11/04 05:12 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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I am not a student, but I really enjoy going to student recitals. I like hearing people having fun playing the piano.

My one comment about them is that most of the adult students have a lot of problems with memory slips. I really think that it would be better if they would have the music available, just so that they can be more comfortable playing.

The most memorable experience at a student recital this year was the adult student who had a lot of trouble with a Chopin Nocturne last year, and wasn't going to play any more. But this year he played a movement of Ravel's Mother Goose with his daughter, and they really nailed the piece. It made everyone feel good to hear it.
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#1094699 - 08/11/04 08:52 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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Just have to keep chiming in! I love that Chopin Waltz too - in fact I just learned it. Hey Frank - did ya know I'm gettin an Estonia 190 too?!?!?!?!? I'm not excited or anything. You guys are all going to be SICK of me talking about it until it arrives!!! \:D
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#1094700 - 08/11/04 09:19 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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Theach,

Very cool, when are you taking delivery? I had about a 6 week wait, due to remodeling. Slowest 6 weeks ever. Well worth the wait though, I love mine.

Of course we'll see pics immediately RIGHT?

Remember keep peddlin. \:D
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#1094701 - 08/11/04 09:55 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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Originally posted by BDB:
But this year he played a movement of Ravel's Mother Goose with his daughter, and they really nailed the piece. It made everyone feel good to hear it. [/b]
I played some of this with my teacher, both for family recitals and for a local music club (in existance for a million years!) It is so much harder to play than it looks! Kudos to the Dad and daughter that played it!
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#1094702 - 08/11/04 10:38 PM Re: Student Recitals?
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The daughter is still in elementary school, I think. She is pretty small, and her father is fairly tall. It was quite a contrast.
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#1094703 - 08/12/04 07:51 AM Re: Student Recitals?
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Does your teacher have Student Recitals?[/b]
Yes.

Do you play in them?[/b]
Going to next week!

Does your teacher have other adult students?[/b]
I am not too sure but I guess so.

Are you the only adult on the program???[/b]
Yes, it's a little frightening to be playing among all kids. My teacher has put me to be the last to perform and I hope this won't backfire!

For bonus points, and a tie-in to the "first piece" thread, what was the first piece you played in a Student Recital (as an adult if you are a retread)?[/b]
This is my first recital and I am only playing one piece from Clayderman. At the end of the day, the audience (parents) will vote for their favourite performer.

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