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#1096259 - 11/18/08 08:27 AM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
loveschopintoomuch Offline
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#1096260 - 11/18/08 08:29 AM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
CC2 and Chopin lover Offline
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Be careful Kathleen, you don't want to be accused of being "thin skinned" by some of Kreisler's advocates.
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#1096261 - 11/18/08 09:13 AM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
loveschopintoomuch Offline
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After playing Chopin, I feel as if I had been weeping over sins that I had never committed, and mourning over tragedies that were not my own." Oscar Wilde, 1891

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#1096262 - 11/18/08 09:18 AM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
Strat Offline
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I understand how some of you might be frustrated, but the only thing I'll say about this situation is this : publically complaining about a moderator on a different forum is bad form. \:\(
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#1096263 - 11/18/08 09:42 AM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
CC2 and Chopin lover Offline
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publically complaining about a moderator on a different forum is bad form. [/b]

I'll respond to this as follows:

I attempted to address this directly with Kreisler immediately after this occurred, but he has turned off the ability to PM him, for some reason. Regarding addressing this on another forum, that is the only way I knew to keep him from closing this thread as well.

Let me give you a much better example of bad form:

This has been posted here at least 5 times. Closed... [/b]
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#1096264 - 11/18/08 09:58 AM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
Les Koltvedt Offline
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Not one to often state my views publicly, I have to agree with CC2...it should have been handled better. Kreisler stepped up and volunteered to be a moderator and with that comes SOME RESPONSABILITY to the forum members. regardless of how he feels that day, if his schedule was tight and didn't have time to respond appropriately...none of that was of CC2's concern or fault, he SIMPLY was posting something of interest.

jm $0.02
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#1096265 - 11/18/08 10:03 AM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
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Registered: 11/17/06
Posts: 2556
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Originally posted by keystring:
What is the procedure in this forum for complaints of this kind?[/b]
Click on the "report post" icon (looks like a blowing whistle). This will send a notification containing your question/complaint/comment to all moderators of the forum in question and to Frank.
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#1096266 - 11/18/08 10:14 AM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
keystring Offline
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Thanks, Greg. Well, I don't have to ask the next question - whether mods are aware of this situation here, because I see "moderator" under your name.

One more thing about the "whistle" - It will go to the mod of the forum in question and no other forum, but to Frank as well? That seems to be an efficient system.

This would also mean that CC is able to contact Kreisler after all, even if his PM is disabled - via the whistle. Am I right?

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#1096267 - 11/18/08 10:21 AM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
sotto voce Offline
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Early this morning, a new thread was started in Pianist Corner called Revolutionary feat .

Somehow, I just knew from the title that it was going to be about Cameron Carpenter playing Chopin's "Revolutionary" etude on the organ with his feet—and I was right!

I've seen this posted before, but a half-dozen others (so far) apparently had not. I wonder if it will be locked or moved.

Steven
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Chopin: Allegro de Concert Op. 46
Schumann: Toccata Op. 7
Fauré: Ballade Op. 19

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#1096268 - 11/18/08 10:28 AM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
CC2 and Chopin lover Offline
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I went to that "whistle" icon and expressed my dissatisfaction with the way it was handled. I await a response.
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#1096269 - 11/18/08 10:33 AM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
argerichfan Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by sotto voce:
Somehow, I just knew from the title that it was going to be about Cameron Carpenter playing Chopin's "Revolutionary" etude on the organ with his feet—and I was right!

LOL, I didn't even bother to open it- I thought it was yet another YouTube of some 6 year old Asian whizkid, this time playing the Revolutionary.

But since it's the glorious Cameron, well all bets are off. Alas, I had plenty to say the last time that video was posted!
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#1096270 - 11/18/08 10:38 AM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
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 Quote:
Originally posted by keystring:

One more thing about the "whistle" - It will go to the mod of the forum in question and no other forum, but to Frank as well?
[/b]
Correct.

 Quote:
Originally posted by keystring:

This would also mean that CC is able to contact Kreisler after all, even if his PM is disabled - via the whistle. Am I right? [/b]
Yes. The notification goes to the moderators (and Frank's) personal email, it does not use the PM system.
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#1096271 - 11/18/08 11:26 AM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
sotto voce Offline
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Chopin: Allegro de Concert Op. 46
Schumann: Toccata Op. 7
Fauré: Ballade Op. 19

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#1096272 - 11/18/08 01:33 PM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
CC2 and Chopin lover Offline
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Posts: 1981
Steven,
I'm not sure what that means. How did someone else get to post on that thread if it had been closed?
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#1096273 - 11/18/08 01:36 PM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
argerichfan Offline
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Loc: Pacific Northwest, US.
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Originally posted by CC2 and Chopin lover:
I'm not sure what that means. How did someone else get to post on that thread if it had been closed?
A moderator can break into a locked thread, and Brendan's a moderator. (I know this having been a moderator on another forum.)
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#1096274 - 11/18/08 01:43 PM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
CC2 and Chopin lover Offline
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But if he concurs with what was said and done, why is he reopening the thread?
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#1096275 - 11/18/08 02:16 PM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
Theowne Offline
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...he isn't. A moderator can post in a locked thread. I suppose that Brendan may have caught wind of some of the "drama" and wanted to make it known that it was now a unanimous "decision" rather than one corrupt moderator becoming power hungry.
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#1096276 - 11/18/08 02:57 PM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
CC2 and Chopin lover Offline
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Posts: 1981
I wouldn't expect one moderator to contradict another, so this doesn't surprise me. It will be interesting to see how Frank weighs in.
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#1096277 - 11/18/08 03:04 PM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
hv Offline
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#1096278 - 11/18/08 03:42 PM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
sotto voce Offline
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Registered: 08/15/06
Posts: 6163
Loc: Briarcliff Manor, NY, USA
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"There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats."
—Albert Schweitzer

Chopin: Allegro de Concert Op. 46
Schumann: Toccata Op. 7
Fauré: Ballade Op. 19

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#1096279 - 11/18/08 04:41 PM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
CC2 and Chopin lover Offline
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Registered: 01/12/06
Posts: 1981
My hats off to Kreisler. That showed class.
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#1096280 - 11/19/08 01:23 PM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
lilylady Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 4977
Loc: boston north
CC2

I too was a little offended that the thread was closed and so abruptly. So probably within a couple of hours of your post, I wrote to the moderator suggesting that even if something had been posted in the past that there are so many new members joining or viewing each year and even others like myself who are finally participating in 'other' sections of forums, that to close something that might be inspirational (such as your post) should be reconsidered.

I am not exactly sure how I did that. Maybe under REPORT the thread, instead of a PM?

I was glad to see that it was reopened.

I can't imagine the work that she has done to accomplish what she has. And she surely was inspirational to me.

Just a note of thanks to you for sharing with us and to let you know that your contributions are appreciated!
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#1096281 - 11/20/08 11:14 AM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
CC2 and Chopin lover Offline
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Posts: 1981
Thanks LL. That means alot to me. I am glad people are being inspired by this amazing young woman.
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#1096282 - 11/20/08 05:42 PM Re: I'd like your opinion please.............
hotkeys Offline
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Posts: 788
Loc: Massapequa, NY
I saw the performance and thanks for sharing!

- Mark
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