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#110402 - 12/18/07 12:07 PM Voicing for the room:
Derick II Offline
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Registered: 10/13/05
Posts: 1426
Loc: New York
Recently I moved from my condo, it was quite an ordeal getting a concert grand out of a second-floor condo, but with the help of Gerhard Feldman from Bosendorfer NY and a skilled crane operator, the piano is sitting in my new home safe and sound.

(Oh yeah, the movers DID NOT tip the piano on the lyre! Didn't even have to make that request, they just never do it as a matter of course.)

Anyway, the piano was the last thing to go so I played it without a stick of furniture or one single box in the condo - it was SO unbelievably loud I couldn't play it. I put the top down all the way and tried it, no luck - the thing would make my ears bleed.

Rugs, furniture, curtains, etc... really do make a HUGE difference in the volume/sound of a piano. Ironically, my piano sits in a smaller room with 9' flat, as opposed to cathedral ceilings, and it's only a little bit louder than it was in my condo (with all the furniture).

Derick
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#110403 - 12/18/07 01:03 PM Re: Voicing for the room:
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congrats on your new digs, derick. did you move into a house?
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#110404 - 12/18/07 01:09 PM Re: Voicing for the room:
Derick II Offline
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Registered: 10/13/05
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Loc: New York
Yes, but it's a rental for now. I had deals on two houses fall thru. But, the condo sold and in today's environment you don't walk away from a buyer. So now I can play the piano anytime I want!

Derick
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#110405 - 12/18/07 01:41 PM Re: Voicing for the room:
kluurs Offline
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Registered: 05/24/02
Posts: 3739
Loc: Chicago
Derick,

That is so cool! FREEDOM!!

Enjoy.

Ken

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#110406 - 12/18/07 02:38 PM Re: Voicing for the room:
RealPlayer Offline
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Registered: 05/02/03
Posts: 2281
Loc: NYC
Good for you, Derick!

Houses and pianos just go together. Especially big-@ss pianos like ours. \:D

Congratulations!
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#110407 - 12/20/07 10:33 AM Re: Voicing for the room:
shepherd Offline
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Registered: 11/26/07
Posts: 21
Loc: Florida
Very interesting. I'm looking to buy my first piano and plan on putting it in my living room. It's a large room (25 x 15?) but it has hardwood floors, no rugs and no curtains, but plenty of furniture. Am I asking for trouble? I'm thinking a large area rug would help. Will that be enough?

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#110408 - 12/20/07 10:44 AM Re: Voicing for the room:
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Registered: 11/17/06
Posts: 2508
Loc: Not in Texas
 Quote:
Originally posted by shepherd:
Very interesting. I'm looking to buy my first piano and plan on putting it in my living room. It's a large room (25 x 15?) but it has hardwood floors, no rugs and no curtains, but plenty of furniture. Am I asking for trouble? I'm thinking a large area rug would help. Will that be enough? [/b]
Yes, the area rug will help and that's what I'd do first. How loud it is also depends a lot on placement within the room, the type of covering on the furniture (cloth is more sound absorbing than leather), what's on the walls (paintings, wall hangings, etc) how many flat surfaces there are in the room (a row of book cases is much more sound absorbing than a blank flat wall) etc.

As you can see, there are a lot of variables that you can adjust if you find your piano to be too loud in your environment. An area rug is a good place to start.
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#110409 - 12/20/07 11:08 AM Re: Voicing for the room:
Derick II Offline
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Registered: 10/13/05
Posts: 1426
Loc: New York
 Quote:
Originally posted by shepherd:
Very interesting. I'm looking to buy my first piano and plan on putting it in my living room. It's a large room (25 x 15?) but it has hardwood floors, no rugs and no curtains, but plenty of furniture. Am I asking for trouble? I'm thinking a large area rug would help. Will that be enough? [/b]
All I can tell you is that there was ONE thing in the room beside my piano and that was a decorative Persian rug that sat under the front legs of the piano. The room was 18x20 with 9'-14' cathedral ceilings. When there was furniture in the room, there were bookcases, cloth-covered sofas, curtains etc... with all those items the piano could be played whisper quiet with the lid fully up.

When all those items were removed, except for the Persian rug, the piano would make my ears bleed with the lid fully closed.

All I can say is too see what you think when you get the piano. Whether too loud or not loud enough, the situation is easily fixable with furnishing, carpeting, voicing, etc...

Good luck,
Derick
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#110410 - 12/20/07 03:17 PM Re: Voicing for the room:
Harling Offline
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Registered: 11/04/07
Posts: 92
Loc: Victoria BC
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Derick II wrote:
Recently I moved from my condo, it was quite an ordeal getting a concert grand out of a second-floor condo, but with the help of Gerhard Feldman from Bosendorfer NY and a skilled crane operator, the piano is sitting in my new home safe and sound.
That is a move I would like to see pictures of.

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#110411 - 12/20/07 03:20 PM Re: Voicing for the room:
Art of the Fugue Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 12/12/07
Posts: 19
Loc: Ontario, Canada
 Quote:
Originally posted by Harling:
 Quote:
Derick II wrote:
Recently I moved from my condo, it was quite an ordeal getting a concert grand out of a second-floor condo, but with the help of Gerhard Feldman from Bosendorfer NY and a skilled crane operator, the piano is sitting in my new home safe and sound.
That is a move I would like to see pictures of. [/b]
Sounds like a scene from the movie "Ghost".

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