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#1109056 - 10/06/04 02:14 PM
Re: Sonata No. 16 in C K.545, MOZART
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are you talking about the original piece? it is so called a 'beginner piece', but it is not that easy for those who have only played piano for short time (say, 6 month - 1 year). i learned the 1st movement after about a year of playing, and found it was hard to even get through the 1st page. i eventually did complete the whole movement, but it took me a long time, and was never able to play it flawlessly. Mozart's music sometime causes some illusion of easiness, with much fewer notes shown on pages than Beethoven, Bach or any Romantic composers, while it actually is really difficult to play his music well because every note on the sheet counts.
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#1109057 - 10/06/04 02:48 PM
Re: Sonata No. 16 in C K.545, MOZART
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A former teacher described looking at Mozart's works as looking through gauze. The music "breathes" frequently because the rests in his compositions are all over the place, whereas Beethoven, Bach etc. scores, thick with notes and few rests are like trying to peer through heavy muslin.
When music is described to me in visual terms like that, it makes understanding the intent so much easier.
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#1109058 - 10/06/04 05:27 PM
Re: Sonata No. 16 in C K.545, MOZART
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I find playing simply what is written works well. Sometimes inexperienced players try to interpret too much with his music when none is needed. When I listen to the good recorded performances they sound simple and balanced. Also, Mozart was famous for improvising. So you want to add spontaneity and freshness to your playing which sometimes is difficult when over practicing his music. Think Effortless Flowing...
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#1109059 - 10/08/04 09:51 AM
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#1109061 - 10/10/04 12:37 AM
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I heard that piece recently on XM Pops, played extremely fast, and I thought to myself "Jeez, why the heck is he playing it so darn fast?" Shame I didn't get who the pianist was. My teacher says that Mitsuku Uchida is the foremost Mozart player of our day (in her opinion, of course) - wonder how fast he (or is it a she?) plays it?
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#1109063 - 10/13/04 02:49 AM
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Lovely piece but I don't think it is beginner music. Intermediate perhaps. Good luck. It's worth every bit of effort you put into it.
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#1109064 - 10/13/04 07:28 AM
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I'm a beginner and it sure doesn't look easy to me! I've been taking lessons for about 3 months (I did take 2 yrs of lessons 15 years ago) and it looks like it'll be years before I play it.
I've never passed the "beginner" level. I really want to at least get to an intermediate level. What's it take? 3 yrs? 5 yrs?
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#1109065 - 10/13/04 07:48 AM
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Mitsuku Uchida is 'she', Japaness origin Mitsuko Uchida is a woman, and is Japanese. I don't have any of her CDs yet, but I need to get some! My classical CD collection is so tiny, but I do borrow from the library which saves me $$$$. 
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#1109067 - 10/13/04 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by HermanM:  My teacher says that Mitsuku Uchida is the foremost Mozart player of our day (in her opinion, of course) - wonder how fast he (or is it a she?) plays it? [/b] Smart teacher!
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#1109069 - 10/13/04 11:45 AM
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Signa - I fully agree with all the comments you've made.
The most difficult aspects of the first movement is tempo and fluency and making the arpeggio parts (18-21,63-66) sound effortless - because that's what I'm having problems with! Even Bach's WTC fugues seem easier.
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#1109070 - 10/13/04 09:33 PM
Re: Sonata No. 16 in C K.545, MOZART
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The most difficult aspects of the first movement is tempo and fluency and making the arpeggio parts (18-21,63-66) sound effortless very true indeed. i actually learned the 1st movement twice in the past, and yet never reached the fluency. sad, isn't it?
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