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#1172108 - 03/31/09 03:12 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Rodney]
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I'd never heard of Ludovico Einaudi! Thanks! Lovely music. Reminds me of Philip Glass'. And great job, Monica!


Edited by Thorium (03/31/09 03:13 PM)
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#1172109 - 03/31/09 03:14 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Euan Morrison]
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Hi NeNiRi,

Beautifully played! I second the praises you've had above, well deserved! It's really refreshing to hear Einaudi (or indeed, any equivalent style) played well: the music may be simple to learn but it's this very simplicity that makes it so difficult to pull off a good performance.

My comments
1) Maybe a little less when you're "resolving". Whenever you're returning from A minor to B you tend to crescendo. To my ears it should be the other way round: it's much more magical when the "home" chord is less.

2) The rubato was getting quite "predictable" after a while. It might be because the music is repetitive and each time the same passage occurs you apply the same rubato (was that the intent?). Maybe a little creativity at this front will boost from a "beautiful" performance of this piece to an "breathtaking" one.

3) A matter of taste: a little less left hand would be so nice.

4) Again, a matter of taste: two instances of the passage with the F6->G->D progression (1:13, 3:42). Your interpretation says that the F6 chord should be important and therefore there should be a crescendo leading to it and a diminuendo away from it. Another way to show your appreciation of that beautiful harmony is to actually diminuendo into that F6. Again, it makes people listen harder. And since there're two instances, maybe do the first one with a dim and the second with a cresc?

I think the general observation is that less is more in a case like this. A lot of what I've said are my personal taste. In any case, I think it was superbly performed. Congratulations!
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#1172157 - 03/31/09 04:36 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Tar]
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Thanks for the nice words, Thorium, and welcome to the forum! smile If you make your way through this mega-thread, you will be a hard-core Einaudi fan. thumb I agree that his music is reminiscent of Glass's, but even prettier, in the sense of being more melodic.

Rodney, I'm away from my piano, but I'll try to take a look tonight and see what fingering I use for those measures. I *think* I use #2 but I have been woefully wrong before trying to recall fingering away from the piano. grin
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#1172287 - 03/31/09 09:06 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Monica K.]
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Hey Rodney... I just sat down at the bench. Forget what I said about using #2. The fingering I *actually* use isn't one of your options. Instead, I play:

5-1-4-1-2-1, or p-t-r-t-i-t, exactly the same as Euan. smile

[Monica swears NEVER to answer a fingering question away from the piano again. blush ]
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#1172377 - 04/01/09 01:20 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Monica K.]
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Hi,

I recently caught Einauditis. Having read several people comparing his music to Glass's, I thought I'd check him out too. I listened to snippets of several songs, and formed the opinion that shattering glass sounds closer to Einaudi than Philip Glass. Is there a certain album of his I should check out or should I wait for the Ludovico virus to subside?

Thanks,

Dave

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#1172507 - 04/01/09 09:12 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: drm13]
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Welcome to the forum, drm13, and welcome to Eindaudi addiction. smile You can start with the "Echoes" best of collection, or the La Scala concert (which I think is almost better), but I must warn you that Einaudi addiction is a progressive disease, and you will find yourself wanting to buy everything he ever recorded, not to mention paying large sums of money to fly across the country to hear him play live... grin

Actually, the Echoes collection was released before his latest albums, which are some of his best, so you might want to buy Una Mattina or Divenire instead of that. Or in addition to. wink
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#1173129 - 04/02/09 10:20 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Monica K.]
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Hi Monica,

Sorry, my post was confusing. I did already purchase a few Einaudi CDs (Le Onde, I Giorni), and I'm saving my pennies for more. My question was more about Glass -- Which of Glass's CDs remind people of Einaudi, because to me they are like night & day.

Thanks,

Dave

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#1173167 - 04/02/09 11:46 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: drm13]
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drm13,

Some of his works for larger ensembles are very "out there", true, but the stuff for solo piano has much of the same elegant simplicity as Einaudi's, IMO. Glass is bit darker though, and perhaps more dissonant, and probably a truer example of Minimalism.

Have you heard his Etudes, and the Metamorphosis piano cycle?
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#1173791 - 04/03/09 11:57 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Thorium]
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No, I will go hunt them down. Thx, Thorium.

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#1173846 - 04/03/09 01:50 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: drm13]
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drm13,

I really like the music he wrote for the film The Hours:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R-bDSAl6ME


Edited by Euan Morrison (04/03/09 01:55 PM)
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#1181058 - 04/15/09 05:12 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Euan Morrison]
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Good news and bad news on my progress on Le Onde. The good news is that I think I learned how to make it more musical. He (and those of you who play it so nicely) undergoes dynamic changes within phrases, in order to accentuate the sensation of wavelike movement. Starting in the very first measure, he crescendo's pretty significantly starting at the beginning of the measure, through the end of it. Then quiet again to begin the second measure, crescendo through it, and so forth. Conversely, in measure 5, the dynamics fall as the measure progresses. The D,C#,A progression gets progressively quiet as the measure progresses, then the pattern repeats. I am sure you all picked up on this a long time ago, but for me, it was a revelation.

Now the bad news: upon discovering this, I basically am in a position of completely relearning the piece. There is no way on God's green earth I will have it ready six weeks from now, for my piano teacher's annual student recital. Maybe good enough to play it for my children, but certainly not good enough to play it in public, in front of people I don't know.

Returning my attention, then, to IDF, which I always knew I could fall back on, should I need it.
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#1181199 - 04/15/09 10:43 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Always Wanted to Play Piano]
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Welcome to the "got my butt kicked by Le Onde club." grin

In all seriousness, I think your realization may be a blessing in disguise. "I due fiumi" is a much safer bet to play in a high stress context like a recital, and imo it's even prettier than "Le Onde." I'm sure your teacher and the other audience members will love it. thumb
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#1188322 - 04/27/09 12:50 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Monica K.]
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Oh boy! I just got an email announcing the May 12 release date of Einaudi's next album, Cloudland, as part of the new group he formed with Robert & Ronald Lippok called "Whitetree."

http://media.hmusa.com/listeningparty/whitetree/

If you click on that link it will bring up an ad along with a online player so you can hear snippets. It's a bit more experimental and ambient than his usual solo piano fare, but that won't stop me from buying it. wink

It looks like Whitetree will be performing live in New York (June 2) and L.A. (June 6), so any of you Einaudi fans lucky enough to live in or near those cities might want to look into it. I've already blown my budget for traveling to see Einaudi for the year, unfortunately.
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#1188329 - 04/27/09 12:57 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Monica K.]
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I've had the album downloaded from iTunes for ages now as I had an iTunes gift card from Christmas. (Besides, when you've got an iPod singed by Einaudi it should have his stuff on it!)

I will say that I find the album quite listenable and it's a good break from his normal work. I think I'll give it another listen later on today since I've been working hard on the recital piece and can use some tracks to take a break in between practice sessions.
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#1188361 - 04/27/09 01:40 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: AnthonyB]
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I just got "Echos" over the weekend.

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#1188459 - 04/27/09 03:49 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: kennychaffin]
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Did anyone ever figure out the music for his experimental wanderings on the La Scala version of I Due Fiumi? Man, I like that part. Maybe my piano teacher and I can figure it out. She's good with stuff like that.

But I figured I would ask here first. Seems like this has come up before.
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#1188516 - 04/27/09 05:10 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Always Wanted to Play Piano]
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There was a thread about the La Scala version of I due fiumi on the Einaudi forum, in which nobody volunteered the transcription for the new coda, but I haven't checked it lately. I absolutely LOVE that version and am determined to play it one way or the other, but I would infinitely prefer it to be the lazy way (e.g., waiting for AW2PP's teacher to figure it out for us) vs. the hard way (e.g., me figuring it out for myself). wink
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#1189273 - 04/28/09 05:26 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Monica K.]
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Uploading now to the iPod, Monica. Piano lessons are (checks clock) in 2 hours. We'll see how this goes.

My hope is that the patterns are simply excursions on themes developed elsewhere in the piece.
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#1189360 - 04/28/09 08:03 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Always Wanted to Play Piano]
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If you do manage to get just the notes for that section I could try to type them up into notation.
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#1189389 - 04/28/09 08:57 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: AnthonyB]
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No luck this evening, we ran out of time. I'll try to work it out this week.
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#1190582 - 04/30/09 12:58 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Always Wanted to Play Piano]
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A thousand pardons if this video has already been posted here. (I tried searching for it and didn't find it, but I will be the first to admit that I have trouble working with this new search feature).

This is a video of Einaudi performing Divenire live. He evidently produced and posted the video himself, and it's very well done. I especially liked the still shots that were interspersed in the video. The video also does a good job of showing what a live performance by Einaudi is like--he merges sections of different pieces together into a medley.

Anyway, enjoy!

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#1204839 - 05/23/09 08:56 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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I purchased the single Le Onde and really enjoy playing it. It is quite surprising how in certain sections, the flow of notes suddenly fits perfectly into place. So now, I thought I would try I Due Fiumi. I have tried to locate a download online and through my local music store but can't find it. Is it only available in a book? I probably will buy the book in September but would like to have IDF now to work on over the summer. And....so I don't sound like an idiot, how do you pronounce his name?

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#1204878 - 05/23/09 10:02 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Norah]
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Welcome to the Einaudi thread Norah.

His first name is pretty much how you would think it would sound. The last name sort of sounds like "Eye-now-di"

I didn't have much luck looking for a digital download of "I Due Fiumi" on many of the popular online music stores. I will say it is in the "Best of Ludovico Einaudi" book that is available from Amazon. It looks like it runs just over $25 Canadian. Quite a steal for 36 songs worth of sheet music. I got it right when I started learning piano as I wanted some encouragement.

I would rather invest in getting the whole book before you spend a bunch on single sheet scores that will end up in a book you might purchase anyway! smile

Plus, you might get done learning I Due Fiumi well before the summer is over! Then whatever would you do?
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#1205150 - 05/24/09 04:02 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: AnthonyB]
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I agree with Anthony. If you've polished up Le Onde, I due fiumi will be a cakewalk. "The best of" book is a tremendous bargain. It contains the sheet music to all the pieces on his first three albums. And there's not a clunker in the bunch. thumb
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#1207554 - 05/28/09 03:53 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: NancyM333]
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Thank you Anthony and Monica for your replies. Perhaps I should buy the book this summer. And....I hope I didn't give anyone the impression that I had mastered Le Onde. lol. Far from it!

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#1215853 - 06/11/09 02:26 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Norah]
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I posted my recital clip (I Due Fiumi, played last Friday):

http://aw2pp.blogspot.com/2009/06/my-recital-piece.html
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#1215905 - 06/11/09 04:19 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Always Wanted to Play Piano]
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Oh, I'm so glad you posted this, AW2PP!! I had forgotten exactly when your recital was, but I was thinking the other day that it was right around now.

I know you said in your blog that you were shaking the whole time, but I can tell you that it sure isn't noticeable to the audience! You look very calm, and very focused! I thought you did a great job... only a minor bobble here or there, which people not familiar with the piece probably wouldn't have noticed.

What a huge rite of passage for you! Congratulations! thumb And how nice that you were able to share the experience with Jillian. (Who looks like an angel in those photos on your blog, by the way. smile )
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#1215958 - 06/11/09 06:05 PM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Monica K.]
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Congratulations! I'll have to admit that the first thing I did was laugh, because I always laugh when people are twice my height laugh Then I saw your notice about the NBA. I'm more Jillian's size, myself. But both of you were great!

Cathy
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#1216156 - 06/12/09 03:05 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: jotur]
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That was very nice AW2PP. The more I hear this piece the more it grows on me.Thanks for sharing. :o)

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#1216239 - 06/12/09 09:33 AM Re: Ludovico Einaudi [Re: Sundew]
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Thanks, all!

I'm now in a "Now what?" phase. Over the last month, I have been spending most of my piano time working on IDF. I let Alfred's Book 2 slide, and I haven't been working on any fun pieces. I've tinkered a little with I Giorni, seems approachable enough.
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