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#1110743 03/24/07 10:33 PM
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I knew I had this piece down, but in recording I kept making these mistakes. Well, went back to check Kawaigirl's recording and some of my past recordings, and it turned out I was steadily accelerating with each iteration! Kawaigirl's version sounds like a stately ship, mine like a rabbit on speed even after I consciously moderated the speed to a pace I still liked (the version that you won't be hearing sounded like an overclocked hamster).
That is so funny, sid! I did the same thing with Nefeli. I like to play it every day, and I must have unconsciously been jacking up the speed as I got more confident playing it over the weeks. Then one day I put on the best of Einaudi CD, and when "Nefeli" came on I went "Whoah! I'm playing that way faster than he does!" laugh

Your latest version sounds terrific, sid. I think you can consider this one officially nailed. smile

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Originally posted by mr_super-hunky:

For me, its not about how talented or how well the piece is performed, but rather how beautiful the piece itself sounds when performed.
All I can say is: don't give up on Chopin after listening to just 2 of his pieces. You can hardly find much more melodiously ingenious composers out there with a romantic flair for sadness and sorrow.

You said you like "sad" notes? Chopin is full of them: what else to expect from the author of the Funeral March?

Perhaps those particular pieces "clicked" with the previous poster, but not with you, though I'm sure there are quite a few Chopin pieces who'll move you just as the few Einaudi you listed. Be it the waltzes, nocturnes or even a few studies.

Search for pieces in minor keys, since those are commonly associated with sorrow and sadness.


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I downloaded a free page of his music. I wish I was at the level to play his music. Very nice.
Something to look forward to...

And for the rest of you I'm kicking you all out of the Adult beginners area...you're all too good to be here... laugh

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Thanks, Monica! I know it could be better, but I guess it's good enough for now. Still have the Gagnon piece to perfect and then I can finally start in on Cristofori's in earnest.

Kawaigirl, thank you! Currently listening to Bella Notte as I write, that's not a half bad idea, I really like that new ending section and the repeat of that lovely middle section (which really needs to be played more than just once imo)...an idea might be to stick the whole of Bella into the end of Altra Vita, ending up with up a new nine minute performance. eek I think this is probably a better idea than trying to haphazardly improvise Einaudi (I like his music too much smile ).

Mr S-H, good luck on the move, hope the M&H withdrawal pangs don't get too bad!

Mark, glad you could find a sample to look at before buying.


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Here's my recording of Nefeli:

http://www.box.net/public/0pelpjzcd1
I blame you all because I can't get this song out of my mind...:lol:

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Monica,

How are you coming along with Divenire? I've jumped right to the bottom of the 3rd page and onto the 4th page. I think that section is the toughest of this entire piece where there's so many notes and the melody can easily be lost. The first and 2nd page is pretty straight forward.

Is there anybody else out there that's learning this piece?

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I have been playing it obsessively for the past 3 days, kawaigirl, to the extent that I felt some soreness in my forearm today, so it's a good thing I'm going to a conference tomorrow and will have to take a rest!

In typical Kern stubborn fashion, I am playing it straight through from start to finish. I can play the parts on pp. 3-4, albeit about 5 times as slow as Einaudi does and with numerous errors when my thumb doesn't jump back to the right starting place on the arpeggios. I don't think it's the hardest part, though--the part that's giving me absolute conniptions is the section on the bottom of the fifth page (p. 10 in the book) continuing on for the next 2 pages. I really don't handle irregular rhythms well, and what I am playing doesn't sound at all like Einaudi plays it, and I fear it's not just a tempo problem. It also sounds to me like the left hand in this section is not what's on the recording, and that just makes it harder. (Or, possibly, I'm mangling it so badly it sounds nothing like the recording. eek )

I just love this piece, though, and I look forward to the time I can play it at a galloping pace.

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p.s. thanks, Mark737, for those YouTube links. smile Man I wish he would come tour in the U.S.

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Well, at todays lesson I brought the first promotional page of Nefeli that I recently downloaded and asked my teacher if it was doable in the near future. To my surprise she said it was doable right now. She said the music would be a work in progress and take some time. (Similar to Moonlight I'm working on), but no reason not to do it. She said its good to play what you really like, even if it takes extra time.

I asked if she ever heard of Ludovico Einaudi, and she said no. She then played the page like a pro and liked it very much. So I'm cleared to order the book. I told her if I could play his music clean and up to speed, I would be a very happy student.

Hope it works out...

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Congratulations, Mark! I'm so excited for you...and you know what this means, a recording at some point in the future! Have fun.


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Mark, glad your teacher approved of Einaudi. You will have fun learning Einaudi's music.

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Well his book arrived today. You guys didn't tell me Nefeli was six pages long...:lol:

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But most of Nefeli is repeats or repeats with very slight variations (Einaudi is sneaky that way), so it's not that bad. wink

Kawaigirl, I must be doing something wrong with Divenire, because I get a forearm pain in my left arm after playing it. I think it may even be caused by the "easy" section on the first few pages where you're endlessly alternating the thumb and index finger. So I am limiting myself to playing it only once per day, which is really slowing my progress down. mad

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But most of Nefeli is repeats or repeats with very slight variations (Einaudi is sneaky that way), so it's not that bad. wink
Well I hope so.... laugh

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Monica, try playing Divenire with a very relax arm/hand.

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Easier said than done, Kawaigirl, easier said than done. wink

But I am working on it and played it twice today without apparently aggravating anything. Of course, I also had two Sam Adamses first, which helped greatly in the relaxation department if not the accuracy department. laugh

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Of course, I also had two Sam Adamses first, which helped greatly in the relaxation department if not the accuracy department. laugh
LOL... that'll work too! laugh

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Let me ask you this: What fingering do you use when you have to hit those high E's in the left hand (e.g., first page, line 5, middle measure). Do you reach up and try to get it with your thumb, or do you switch to using say the 2nd and 3rd fingers for the A-G alternations and then hit the E with your thumb?

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Monica, for that measure I use:

5-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2

It gets too complicated if you try to use the switch fingering method.

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