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Anybody playing Quel Che Resta? So far, it's my favorite Einaudi piece, but it seems relatively unpopular for some reason. I like how moody it is.

Anyway, I have a question: what does everyone think the right tempo is? I like a moderate Allegro, 135-150 bpm or something like that. I've heard a lot of people play it very, very quickly, and I feel that's missing the point. I haven't actually heard a recording of Einaudi himself playing it.

There are a lot of tasty, crunchy dissonances in this piece, and I feel that if you play the notes too fast, you lose the ability to savor them. Any thoughts?

YES! I'm glad you brought this piece up because I learned it myself and also wondered why nobody else has mentioned/recorded the piece before. It's a fantastic piece in my opinion.

With the tempo, I tend to play it similar to the Einaudi recording, whatever that is played at. I haven't heard the youtube recordings, so I don't know how fast others play it.

I also use pauses between the seperate musical phrases. I will record this one soon.

So many Einaudi pieces, so little time!

I'm listening to it again right now. You're right; it's beautiful. And doesn't look that hard at all. hmmm....

[vows silently to self to tackle that one next]

As for tempo, I am horrible at estimating bpm, so I can't give a metronome marking. But listening to the recording, it seems like Einaudi is playing it pretty fast.

I would assume a tempo marking of Scorrevole doesn't translate to anything in the slow category.

I will agree the piece itself does sound very beautiful. I'll have to take a shot at it someday.

I seem to have settled on 152 bpm. I agree that to really be "Scorrevole" - giving a sense of flowing or gliding - it can't be too pokey. But 152 isn't so fast that you miss out on the coloring. I wish I had the ability to record!

My sister turned on the radio this morning. My (amazingly adorable) three year old nephew stated he did not want to listen to what came on. Instead, he wanted to listen to his uncle Tony play piano. Of course, what he meant was that he wanted to hear the Einaudi CD that was in the radio.

One day I hope to sound as good as an Einaudi CD. But at least he knows what type of music I play.

Anyone know which key "I due fiumi" is in? I saw a few postings earlier in this thread regarding this, but no definitive answer.

It looks like the piece is laid out nicely in 8 bar phrases, where each phrase ends with a G chord. Most of the times, the G is preceded by a C chord. Also, the song ends on a G. However, the key signature has no sharps/flats.

Could this be a mode starting on the fifth note of the C major scale, i.e. the tonic chord is G? If so, the end of each phrase (C followed by G) would form a plagal cadence (IV-I).

I'm not that familiar with modes, so I could be off base here.

There was an answer to that question, buried somewhere in here. Apparently it starts off in C but then wanders into G (although with no change in key signature). I think you're right about it being some kind of mode thing. I'd love to hear a definitive answer.

One of the previous posts did talk about modulating to the key of G:

"I asked her today, and she said its in C but changes to G in some spots and some other stuff that was over my head...lol"

However, each 8 bar phrase starts and ends with similar chords - starts with F, ends with C followed by G. It repeats throughout the piece, so it doesn't seem like there's any modulation. The piece also doesn't appear to be in the key of C or Am since the phrases and song end in G.

That's what had me confused, too.

Tell you what... I'm also a member of the Einaudi forum. I'll post the question there and see what the experts say and report back.

I had a look and it appears that the song is in G Mixolydian (a kind of Bluesy upbeat scale). Major scale with the 7th note lowered a half step.

Take a look at my post on posted 03 August, 2005 12:27 PM in the Chord Voicing techniques (A Primer) thread.

Rodney

Thanks, Rodney! I fully intend to let it drop into dinner conversation tonight that I am playing a piece in the Mixolydian mode. (Er, if I can even pronounce the word, that is.)

Let me ask a follow-up question that will reveal just how deep the depth of my ignorance is: If this piece is indeed in G, why not use the G major key signature and then natural the F's when they appear?

You could always show a G major key signature with the F sharp and then flat that note every time, but why would you want to?

For example, would you want to write a song in A natural minor (Aeolian mode) with 3 sharps and then natural the 3rd, 6th and 7th every time they appear in the music? It's all about convenience and making the music less complex to read and interpret.

You could write any piece of music in any mode (relative to their major scale {which is in fact just the Ionian mode} ) and then mark the relative sharps and flats within the score, but this could become VERY combersome and difficult to read. Besides, understanding the mode of the piece, gives you a clue to the mood the composer was trying to convey with the music. This in turn is used in your interpretation and could reflect the manner in which you play it (tempo, amount of swing, dynamics, duration of a fermata, rubato, etc).

Rodney

It makes sense to me that you would have fewer accidentals if you leave the piece in the C major key signature. But what confuses me is that if you do so, how does one easily tell that it's really G major Mixolydian mode and not C major? Or do you just have to look at the chord progressions and the fact that the G major chord is so prominent to deduce that it's not C major?

Hi all, I have new to this forum but share your passion for Einaudi. My name is Richard and my favourite tune is Le Onde. I really cant play anything else, i never had any lessons but i am now with a teacher and starting to learn properly.

To begin with i copied the hands of Smokey Joe and then tried to slowly work out the bits i missed with the help of the sheet music.

Id like to post my playing up for you guys but i have never done an upload before.

Can anyone help?

Hi

I think I worked it out i used the box.

A word of warning a bit of the song is missing as i have not worked that bit out yet. Also there is the expected major flub 3/4 thru.

Hope you enjoy and comments welcome.

My attempt at Le Onde (link below)

http://www.box.net/shared/p5qier7n40

Hey, NeNiRi, welcome to the forum!! I tried to play your recording but Windows Media Player wouldn't recognize the m4A file. Any chance you can resave it as an mp3 file?

Yes Monica sorry il do that

There you go Monica, ty for your welcome hopefully i can drill you and Kawigirl and the rest for some tips, as i plan on trying to learn some more pieces.

Le Onde mp3

http://www.box.net/shared/5t1oot7ium

Thanks! If you've read much of this thread, you'll know that I am the *last* person to give you any tips on Le Onde because it has been my nemesis Einaudi piece.

I have to say I am extremely impressed by your playing if this is your very first (and so far only) piece you've ever played in piano.