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#1121422 - 01/30/07 10:53 PM
Re: Why Not an Office Chair (instead of bench)?
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3000 Post Club Member
Registered: 07/15/05
Posts: 3924
Loc: Haverhill, Massachusetts
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I tried an office chair because my old piano's bench was too high, or perhaps its keyboard was too low. I figured that I could adjust the height of the bench to suit me longish legs. In the end, as Mark points out, I ended up with sore shoulders and a lower back because the chair kept twisting on me when I was pedalling.
After a search around the house, I ended up using a wooden chair that was the right height, but that had problems too because the seat sunk in and made my arms end up higher then they should be and they started to fatique. I had to sit on the very front edge of the seat, and that made me tense up. It was like sitting on a railing because the edge was thin, and that cut the circulation off my legs and my feet fell asleep.
In the end, I ended up with a small bench from a digital piano that was the right height for the junky upright.
Now I had an adjustable bench for my grand piano, but the darn thing squeaks when I move around. It's also a bit small length wise so the search continues for the ultimate place to put my tuchas when playing my piano.
John
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#1121424 - 01/31/07 08:34 AM
Re: Why Not an Office Chair (instead of bench)?
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500 Post Club Member
Registered: 01/08/07
Posts: 789
Loc: Chapel Hill, NC
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prayerbone - just think of it as your chi: it needs to flow down and out of you into the piano to find the perfect sound. Then, no more shame! 
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Inspiration is the act of pulling a chair up to the writing desk. Pramberger JP-185 (a 6'1" mahogany-red Grand)+ Glenn Gould-ish piano chair (no cushion)
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#1121427 - 01/31/07 11:10 AM
Re: Why Not an Office Chair (instead of bench)?
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6000 Post Club Member
Registered: 03/18/06
Posts: 6115
Loc: Olympia, Washington, USA
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Mark, LL's answer (#3 in this thread) was to the point and accurate. Just to elaberate some:
Proper piano playing, like golf, involves addressing the piano properly. I have to teach my students to sit forward on the bench (which is both padded and height adjustable), and to rotate left or right as they move down or up the keyboard. The idea is that their torso is more or less centered where they are playing (on the keyboard). That is, they shift right and lift the left cheek, or vice versa (does this make sense?) so their body is square, not twisted, as they face the piano. In otherwords, one does not "reach" if you don't have to, you move in front of the keys you are playing.
The movement is difficult or impossible if you're sitting back on a bench or chair.
The major problem I have with young students is that their back muscles are very, very weak from too much sitting and not enough standing, running, etc. They cannot, for the most part, sit erect through a lesson.
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#1121429 - 01/31/07 04:51 PM
Re: Why Not an Office Chair (instead of bench)?
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4000 Post Club Member
Registered: 04/05/06
Posts: 4668
Loc: Illinois
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I just returned from Walmart (I should get a back room in the place and put a cot in there...to say me the trouble of going there almost everyday). Anyhow, my back has been protesting (very loudly) lately in response to the hours I spend on that piano bench. I wanted a chair whose height and back rest could be adjusted, no arms, able to swivel and be on rollers. Well, I found it...at Walmart. Just for $17.20 Can't wait til my husband gets home to have him put in together for me. I'll let you know how it works out. I do believe it will work much better if I get one of those plastic office mats (my piano is in the living room on a rather thick carpet). That way I roll from one end of the piano to the other. I've seen those beautiful chairs posted on the forum, but somehow just can't see spending almost a thousand dollars on a chair. If I were a concert pianist...of course. But for an amateur like me, $17.20 is enough. It might fall apart within a year, but I just buy at new one if that happens. Kathleen
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After playing Chopin, I feel as if I had been weeping over sins that I had never committed, and mourning over tragedies that were not my own." Oscar Wilde, 1891
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#1121431 - 01/31/07 11:33 PM
Re: Why Not an Office Chair (instead of bench)?
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5000 Post Club Member
Registered: 08/06/05
Posts: 5310
Loc: SC Mountains
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Serious chicks. Serious chairs. Serious time.
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#1121432 - 02/01/07 07:35 AM
Re: Why Not an Office Chair (instead of bench)?
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4000 Post Club Member
Registered: 04/05/06
Posts: 4668
Loc: Illinois
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Sorry Mark...yes Frycek is correct. I am now entertaining the thought of learning Chopin's 3rd ballade....and hope to have it completed by Chopin's birthday. That means that I'll be putting in around 5+ hours a day. Also need to mention the 48.1 nocturne I've just started. That will add another 3-4 hours to my day. Dudes are history!! 
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After playing Chopin, I feel as if I had been weeping over sins that I had never committed, and mourning over tragedies that were not my own." Oscar Wilde, 1891
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