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#11230 - 04/07/07 10:34 AM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
startover player Offline
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Registered: 02/26/07
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Loc: Virginia
Dang. Game Over...







I think my 4-year-old has the same gene as the guy who wanted to see undersides of pianos a few months ago...

Maybe I can start a new thread called "Guess that Star Trek episode"... this thread has eerie similarities...
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#11231 - 04/07/07 10:41 AM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
startover player Offline
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Loc: Virginia
Just as much fun:

Digging out my old sheet music from the late 70s and 80s. Some real cringe-inducing music selections.

My favorite so far has been "Shakedown Cruise" by Jay Ferguson. I might even take a picture of some of the ones that had my wife and I laughing the hardest!

Guess I haven't played much past 80s retro...
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#11232 - 04/07/07 10:48 AM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
CozyWriter Offline
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Registered: 01/08/07
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Loc: Chapel Hill, NC
and I was JUST yesterday thinking that it's time to find a transcription of the 80s version of "The Locomotion."

It was featured in one of those K-Tel commercials of the era. (The commercial came up on my ipod as I was driving cross-state and I was "boogying" through Winston Salem, NC.)


Thanks for the tread, btw. That was the Most fun, while sitting here watching it sprinkle snow on azalea blossoms.
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#11233 - 04/07/07 10:54 AM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
John Citron Offline
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Congratulations Starting Over! \:D \:D
We have another Vogel 177T owner!

John
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#11234 - 04/07/07 10:57 AM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
BB Player Online   content


Registered: 11/17/06
Posts: 2719
Loc: Not in Texas
Congratulations on your new piano! Looks like there's another budding pianist crawling under the piano - it's important to know how it all works!
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#11235 - 04/07/07 11:14 AM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
Les Koltvedt Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
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Loc: Canton, MI
Congrats on you Easter delivery...nice addition
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#11236 - 04/07/07 11:37 AM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
Monica K. Offline

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Registered: 08/10/05
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Loc: Lexington, Kentucky
Congratulations, startover player, and thanks for the fun thread! I'm just sorry I got to it too late to take a guess.

I love the photo of your son peeking under the piano. But, looking at the photo before that one, don't you think you're starting him off on some awfully advanced material? \:D
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#11237 - 04/07/07 12:03 PM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
Les Koltvedt Offline
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Looks easier than this Harder??
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#11238 - 04/07/07 12:19 PM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
Starting Over Offline
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Loc: Toronto
John Citron said...

 Quote:
Congratulations Starting Over!
We have another Vogel 177T owner!
Yes, we do. But it's not me. Close, but not me. ;\)

Congratulations startover player. It's a beauty!
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#11239 - 04/07/07 09:00 PM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
ChatNoir Offline
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Registered: 04/19/05
Posts: 1481
Loc: Encino, California
Congratulations on the new bird, it looks lovely. And to all you funny people out there, you made me laugh with all your comments. There is a place in heaven for all of you!
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#11240 - 04/07/07 10:44 PM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
George K Offline
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Registered: 12/20/04
Posts: 999
Loc: The Midwest
Congratulations! I've always had a warm spot for Vogels. Nice, nice piano and great pics as well!
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#11241 - 04/07/07 10:57 PM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
gabytu Offline
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Registered: 12/26/05
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Loc: Portland, Or.
Well, I don't think it is a Kawyie. Gaby Tu

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#11242 - 04/08/07 01:31 AM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
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Registered: 04/02/06
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Loc: New York City
Nice piano...That was a fun thread!
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#11243 - 04/08/07 01:51 PM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
Shoshana1224 Offline
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Registered: 02/20/07
Posts: 35
Loc: Michigan
Petrof 5'3" ?

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#11244 - 04/08/07 01:53 PM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
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Registered: 02/20/07
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Loc: Michigan
Whoops. Just saw the photos

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#11245 - 04/08/07 03:17 PM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
kokomo61 Offline
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Registered: 01/21/06
Posts: 678
Loc: Herndon, VA
If it's a Vogel, did you buy it locally? That would be Rick Jones in Beltsville or Piano Company in Leesburg....Let us know about the experience....
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#11246 - 04/08/07 03:54 PM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
startover player Offline
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Loc: Virginia
Richmond Piano was where I purchased.

Good experience.

Probably visited all local stores (5 total) three times each, having a variety of salesperson and test drive experiences. Some bad, some okay, some very nice.

Had a nice phone discussion with Kathy Harl when I first started. Braving the Northern Virginia and Maryland traffic was just not what I wanted to do for my skill level and needs. Maybe the next purchase!

Even considered the internet option (ebay, BHA, PSS). Just too much risk in the end and not the deal I was looking for... But all internet parties I contacted were helpful and appeared honest. I think one can buy an internet piano, but it is mostly the lower tier pianos where that makes sense for now.

Pianos I didn't try but would have liked to:

Estonia
Grotrian
Mason and Hamlin (new)
Bosendorfer

Pianos I liked but just could not see spending for my skill level and having two rowdy boys in the house:

Steinway
Schimmel

Pianos I considered at one time or another:

Kawai RX and GE series
Petrof
Brodmann
Young Chang (when I first started)
Boston

Things that were turn me away from doing business (I obviously had potential to buy at any local store):
- Salespeople that didn't know the industry. (No, Never heard of X? How bout Steinway? Heard of that one?)
- Salespeople that couldn't say anything nice about anything not on their floor. (My recommendation is to always stay positive and encourage the buyer to do research themselves to find out any negatives.)
- Salespeople that continued to call but wouldn't provide a reasonable starting price point. (If it's obvious I'm doing my homework, you should treat me accordingly. I'm not interested in paying MSRP unless it's not ever in stock... never found that an issue with pianos)
- Out of tune pianos.
- The shadow... can I just test drive today?

I started with a flexible budget and was honest with all salespeople that I was aiming for value as one of my factors. If I can get a good deal on something based on my research, my budget will flex. So I was estimating somewhere between $8K and $20K.

I also considered used, but my search usually ended up in finding poorly cared for or pounded daily pianos.

What swayed me to the Vogel? Well, my first play on them wasn't anything impressive at all actually. And I didn't like the bird on the fallboard (how picky is that?). But that's why you have to go back 2 or 3 times to play pianos.

The second round of playing Boston and Kawai was not so impressive. Yamaha never really impressed. Had high hopes for Petrof but was disappointed.

What was the Vogel difference?

1 - Quality/Consistency of Workmanship - I find a German (ok, made in Poland) design and quality to be superior. Kawai was pretty good on this factor.

2 - Tone - Found the few Vogels I played to be just the right balance of warmth and brightness.

3 - Size - a 5'11" is what I was looking for size wise (you do need to aim for 6ft or larger)

to be continued...
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#11247 - 04/08/07 08:32 PM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
startover player Offline
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Continued:

In general, the workmanship was a cut above for the Vogel and I was able to work a decent deal on the price. The action was light enough for my preference and every one I played was pretty consistent regardless of how recently it had been tuned.

The dealer cut to the chase when I indicated I was ready to cut a deal and I had no need to look elsewhere.

So I didn't buy furniture, and I didn't buy something worthy of a piano party.

Or maybe I did?
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#11248 - 04/08/07 08:58 PM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
Monica K. Offline

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Posts: 17815
Loc: Lexington, Kentucky
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Originally posted by startover player:
So I didn't buy furniture, and I didn't buy something worthy of a piano party.

Or maybe I did? [/b]
Well, I personally think anything with 88 keys is worthy of a piano party. \:\)

Sounds like you went about your search in a perfect manner and ended up with the right choice for you.
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#11249 - 04/08/07 11:09 PM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
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Loc: torrance, CA
from Startover Player
 Quote:
- The shadow... can I just test drive today?
Amen!

Congratulations on having a beautiful new piano, and thanks for the very informative report on your shopping experience.
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#11250 - 04/09/07 11:33 AM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
kokomo61 Offline
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Registered: 01/21/06
Posts: 678
Loc: Herndon, VA
 Quote:
So I didn't buy furniture, and I didn't buy something worthy of a piano party.

Or maybe I did?
A Vogel is definitely worthy of showing off. It's a very nice piano, and I'm sure you'll be happy with it for many years to come. With a public gathering, others will get to benefit from your purchase as well....I'd vote for showing it off.
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#11251 - 04/09/07 11:46 AM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
MJinMN Offline
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Registered: 03/05/07
Posts: 64
Loc: Minnesota
Congratulations, we look forward to your recordings next week...
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#11252 - 04/09/07 12:19 PM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
Helen&Ken Offline
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Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 92
Loc: West Vancouver
Congratulations on your new piano,

We hope your Vogel gives your family years of musical pleasure. Great detective thread, but alas, we're too late to the chase.

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#11253 - 04/09/07 01:11 PM Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!
txpianist Offline
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Registered: 07/27/06
Posts: 8
Congratulations on your new Vogel.

You made a great choice. I bought a Vogel 177 Royal Intarsia 8 months ago and love it. I keep saying to myself "Wow! it sounds great" every time I play it. My Royal Intarsia Mahogany version looks incredible too.

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