Piano World Home Page Forums I had an idea, could we do this?

I was thinking about the holiday season coming up and wondering what charities to consider. This crazy idea popped into my head. How difficult would it be to create a Piano World CD? We could have some of our more accomplished players post their MP3s for the members to vote on which to include on the CD. Then we could ask everyone to pitch in a couple of dollars to make a 1000 CD production that we could sell on Franks website. We could then donate the profits to some worthy(non-religious) cause for the holidays. I would love to give this kind gift to my family and friends. Anyone think we could do this?
Jon

Yep.
Having said that I don't think anyone would wanna hear me play piano! I'm willing to do anything else that could be useful though. (Within reason )

Great idea.
I'd imagine with the global reach there are a lot of good players and recording freaks here.
It would be funny if all the playing was at a high level, then one track was really awful.
How would we tell one person his or her playing was too poor to be included?
At a piano party it ain't so bad cause it is over in 3 minutes, forever.
On a CD you'd have to hear the bad track over and over.
And the technical quality would be all over the place.
Piano quality and condition, mic quality and placement, pianos out of tune, etc.

Then there's the money factor.
I doubt we would even break even, without marketing.
Then again, it *is* a unique and charming idea that may garner funding and even publicity, the best advertizing.
It would require a lot of work by a few people.
Instead of being a money maker it would have to be a labor of love.

I know I sound like I am poo pooing the idea; I'm not.
It is a great idea.
It just needs to be fleshed out.

ycul

You are not as liberal as I thought.

lb

Very cool idea. My first thoughts were also Kenny's, although CD production has cheapened incredibly even within the past year.

Lets keep talking.

We are the Pianoworld, we are the pianists
We are the ones who tinkle on the ivories
so let's start playing...

To be sung in the best "Bill Murray" imitation voice possible.

Seriously, though a good idea.

And if they don't include me I can say, "Those Bastards, They Killed Kenny!"

Great idea, but we would need a lot of help.

We certainly have enough talented members, and our online store can provide the distribution channel, but we would definitely need technical and promotional help.

I've worked with sound engineers in a new media group, there's a lot of work to laying down tracks and mixing them.

All challenges we could overcome.
The biggest challenge would be choosing the charity to donate profits to (if there were any profits).

I think Kenny is right, it would have to be a labor of love.

Do we have any members familiar with the recording industry?

How many people would be willing to submit their playing?
Remember, we have a "Members Recordings" forum, and I haven't seen much activity there...
http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/forum/29.html

Let's keep the dialogue going.

Bylli Crayone runs his own independent record label just ourside of Boston. He does PR professionally as well as being a dance/club music artist. He has a lot of valuable connections in the music field and just might be willing to help. I'll help in any way I can. It sounds like a great idea!

I vaguely remember Derick (I think) mentioning reviving the 'Make a Wish' program.

I love the idea of a charitable opportunity for our 'group'.

I'd buy a CD. I'd also buy a Piano World Sweatshirt.

Frank
I'm not sure my playing would reach the bar but I'd give it the old college try.

How would we pick?
Solely on technical level?
Musicality?
Most advanced pieces?
How "good" of a forum member he/she is?
Post count?
What if 10 new members rush to join who are great players, and win but have a post count of 2?
Lowest member number?
How much they have supported Pianoworld financially?
Would members just submit a tape?
Would members travel to a studio?
Would we rent time in a local studio at our own expense?

All classical, or jazz and other styles?

How about a CD of liberals and one CD of conservatives?

I can set up polls that only allow people to vote one time for each entry.

I think it should be based on musicality.
If enough people enjoy it, it's good.

Recording would be a challenge. Although a number of members have very nice pianos, I doubt many people have good recording equipment.

There have been posts in the past about techniques for recording the piano, somebody should dig up those threads for us (hint, hint).

I think the music should span the spectrum, after all this is PIANO WORLD

I like this idea !

Kenny: What I imagined was that regular members would record their own playing. If this means borrowing some studio time or simply micing their own pianos at home and converting them to MP3s. I've listened to old recordings of Horowitz from the 40's that don't sound terrible because a studio engineer can clean up alot of background noise, etc. What might end up happening is some of the recording folks who hang out here might jump in with free studio time, or a referral to another colleague in a different city or state that is willing to donate some time and expertise. The payoff for them is 1) feeling good about donating or 2) having their name on a CD liner.
As far as which recordings to pick, I would recommend that we have members send in a home recording first for forum members to vote on. Pick a weeks time for the voting to occur in. At the end we pick the top ten plus or minus one or two pieces for running length. Then we work on sound quality issues. If some of the home recordings are good enough we leave them alone, if not then we figure out how to make them better.
I think we should except all styles of music including original work.
"What if 10 new members join who are great players, and win but have a post count of 2?"
In this case it will be up to the forum members to vote their conscience. If they believe someone has registered just to self promote then let them respond by not voting.
Jon

Good, practical thoughts there. I agree about the independant recording. I've done quite a bit of that over the last few years. Because of the advances in digital technology it's now pretty straightforward to get a good quality sound recording relatively cheap.
All any members interested in submitting a recording would have to do is get their hands on a half decent mike-an NT2 maybe and some kind of digital recording medium like a mini-disc/portable D.A.T. or a hard disc recorder. I hope I'm not irritating anyone by making this sound easier than it might be for some people, I'm probably a bit spoilt with the company I keep.
One of the last recording sessions I did was *remote* and was flown into the track by the engineer at a later date.
The voting system sounds very fair.
Me and my fella could design some C.D. covers btw.

Hmmmmmm... I watched Lost in Translation the other night. That bloke is gorgeous!

Apologies for thread diversion.

Off topic: I want a sweatshirt. Do we have sweatshirts?

I want a mousepad.

People keep telling me I should record my piano. Maybe this is the chance to do it. Somebody else would have to bring in some equipment, though, 'cause all I have is a Sony TCD-5 cassette unit and one el cheapo electret mic.

We may have to worry about street noise, but a weekend or evening would mitigate that somewhat.

Good idea, Jon!!

Therein lies the biggest challenge. I made a recording with new, $500+ mics that I borrowed, and it's awful. I did everything I could with the .mp3 editing software I have but to no avail. I guess you simply can't turn aluminium into gold no matter how sophisticated the technology is.

In any case, I would not be willing to submit a recording as I'm looking to make a CD of my own. If this guy, Patrik , can and be written up in the NY Times, I should receive rave reviews from every major newspaper across the country. And the PianoWorld CD should skyrocket to #1 within days of its release. The entire forum will be invited to the Grammy's next year and Frank will give the acceptance speech. (BTW, I'm almost positive Patrik is fibbing... I think he's playing a digital Imperial, or else the recording sucks big time. The piano sounds like heck IMHO.)

Nevertheless, I'd be happy to donate the green stuff.

Derick