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#1127678 - 06/11/05 11:38 PM St. Louis Blues -- Is that the right chord?
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With my parents recent move to Missouri, I felt obligated to add the St. Louis Blues by W.C. Handy to my repertoire. I have the original sheet music (1914), and I'm discovering musical typesetting then wasn't what it is today. Does anyone know if final chord in the treble cleff in m.25 (on page 2, right under the lyrics "Feel to-mor-row") is actually E-F#-A as written. Somehow the F# sounds strange. Any input would be appreciated.

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#1127679 - 06/12/05 03:25 AM Re: St. Louis Blues -- Is that the right chord?
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Its probably a D7. What key is it in?
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#1127680 - 06/12/05 04:07 AM Re: St. Louis Blues -- Is that the right chord?
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It's in the key of G with lots of accidentals. The section asked about--as best I can determine--gives the notes over 'mor row' as ega and not ef#a. My copy is the copyright renewal of 1932 I think if I read the Roman numerals correctly.

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#1127681 - 06/12/05 09:54 AM Re: St. Louis Blues -- Is that the right chord?
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You asked this before, and I answered it. Don't you bother to read your own posts if you want an answer?
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#1127682 - 06/12/05 07:39 PM Re: St. Louis Blues -- Is that the right chord?
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Huh????
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#1127683 - 06/13/05 11:32 AM Re: St. Louis Blues -- Is that the right chord?
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If you don't like E - F# - A, and this *is* a D7 (in G, this would be the V chord), then play C-F#-A.

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#1127684 - 06/13/05 02:14 PM Re: St. Louis Blues -- Is that the right chord?
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It is probably F#m7 (or half-dim) followed by B7 then Em... Maybe the key is really E minor. It would have the same signature as G.
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#1127685 - 06/13/05 06:50 PM Re: St. Louis Blues -- Is that the right chord?
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No--it's in G and the chord is a min seventh. Look at the score and you can see how it is derived. a-c-e-g inverted to e-g-a. It says 'Words and Music by W. C. Handy' so I assume it is authentic and published by HANDY BROTHERS MUSIC CO., INC.

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#1127686 - 06/14/05 08:22 PM Re: St. Louis Blues -- Is that the right chord?
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hey Giles... where you been??

It cant be an F# B7 Em...it dosent fit....

It cant be a minor7, because it dosent fit either.. Now I'm thinking its a typo..
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#1127687 - 06/15/05 03:39 AM Re: St. Louis Blues -- Is that the right chord?
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Sweep88--I have the music in front of me and can see what it is. It must have been corrected in this printing as the notes are E-G-A and from the bass up to top note--C-G-E-E-G-A resolving to G-D-B-G. It is an Am7 or you could consider it a CMaj with an added 6th.

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#1127688 - 06/15/05 05:44 PM Re: St. Louis Blues -- Is that the right chord?
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Im sure your right Varcon, I cant see what you see. The original post said there was an F#....

That still cant be right though, unless its a turnaround, which STILL dosent resolve to its fifth.
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#1127689 - 06/15/05 06:19 PM Re: St. Louis Blues -- Is that the right chord?
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Yes, the original post did say that and that seemed to be the problem. When the F# is replaced, as in my copy, with a G, then it becomes 'normal' sounding. The chord resolves to the I chord--G-B-D. The A is more of a passing tone, along with the other accidentals in that measure over a C (IV) chord and resolves to the G (I) chord.

I think the orginal post was questioning the type-setting as an error. Perhaps the publication he has does have an error and his musical sense 'told' him it was 'wrong.' Since mine is a later publication and published by the Handy Brothers Music Co., Inc., perhaps it has been corrected in subsequent editions.

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#1127690 - 06/15/05 07:28 PM Re: St. Louis Blues -- Is that the right chord?
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Chuckle chuckle...were talking the same language..
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#1127691 - 06/15/05 07:46 PM Re: St. Louis Blues -- Is that the right chord?
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Originally posted by BDB:
You asked this before, and I answered it. Don't you bother to read your own posts if you want an answer? [/b]
No, he actually asked who made the final out for the St. Louis Browns. \:D

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#1127692 - 07/09/05 11:50 PM Re: St. Louis Blues -- Is that the right chord?
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Registered: 10/12/04
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Thanks to all for the lively discussion and elaboration on this matter (and to BDB on his original response in the Pianists Corner Forum). My edition with the f# is from 1914, so it appears the note was corrected to g in the 1932 printing as BDB noted.

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