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#112831 - 02/21/07 06:53 PM Steinway Consoles
music32 Offline
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Registered: 01/07/07
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How are these ranked among the better consoles and smaller pianos such as the Baldwin Acrosonics (older ones).
I have never played a Steinway console that are not in great supply. What is the consensus? Any Steinway console owners out there? Are they easy to tune and service? I have a larger Steinway vertical at 45" and it produces a substantial tone, but how would the console tone proportion compare.
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#112832 - 02/21/07 07:36 PM Re: Steinway Consoles
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You might want to consult Fine's piano book. I'm a player - not a tech - but my sense from experience and from others is that most folks wouldn't get too excited about Steinway's consoles.

Generally, a 45" studio piano is going to be substantially better instrument - and it doesn't have to say Steinway. A good friend traded a family heirloom Steinway console for a Yamaha U1 and was very excited.

If you're going to pay a premium for a piano - I'd get a studio piano - rather than a Steinway console.

A lot of folks on this board learned on pianos like the Acrosonic - but a nicer studio piano would have been a godsend.

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#112833 - 02/21/07 07:53 PM Re: Steinway Consoles
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I am not looking for a Steinway console as I play and own a Steinway M, 1917 grand, magnificently rebuilt by Dale Erwin and a studio upright 4510 also Steinway. But I have a friend who will be trying a Steinway console and I wanted to do some research on the consoles they manufactured until 1989, I think.
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#112834 - 02/22/07 02:53 PM Re: Steinway Consoles
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I'm having our 60's vintage Steinway console rebuilt right now. They weren't able to round up some of the action parts new however, so parts availability may be an issue... but I understand it depends on the model year because Steinway changed their console design a number of times.

Howard

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#112835 - 02/22/07 10:40 PM Re: Steinway Consoles
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Steinway consoles are 40". The more recent F series came in about five styles. They were made from the 1940's through 1987. We techs always complained about the tight pin blocks that make fine tuning a chore and a test of nerves. They were well built of quality materials as all S&S. Lasting/conservative furniture designs. Wood veneers were somewhat uninspired at times.
Played well and had decent tone production and color for their size. Many sell used in West coast markets for in the $5.5k - $8k.
The earlier model 40's from 1939 - 1940 (Pianinos)are much rarer and the models didn't have as much distinctive cabinet styling.

Most Baldwin Acrosonics were spinets 36". While the best of the spinet designs they cannot compete with a direct blow action and taller back. The 1980's saw some taller console Acrosonics about 43" These were the upper end of the Baldwin console line and were very nice.
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#112836 - 02/23/07 04:40 PM Re: Steinway Consoles
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Lets just say its not the consoles which made Steinway famous!
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#112837 - 02/24/07 05:14 PM Re: Steinway Consoles
Kristina Richards Offline
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I would always go with a standard upright over a spinet/ console. Their action is dropped down below the keystick to diminish the height requirement, which appears to be a pain to work on technically. And the soundboard area is significantly diminished. , compromising tone. They are just not that inspiring to play. By contrast, a standard upright, say 48-52" range, can outperform many baby grands.
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