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#1128767 12/12/08 11:59 PM
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An individual jazz piece cannot escape the grasp of the medium of jazz as a whole- thus all jazx pieces end up sounding like variatoins of one another(at least in terms of color and a general sense of tonality).
This is really quite silly. All genres are "restrictive" and have elements which sound similar. All Baroque music share similar elements of color and tonality. Are you going to critique Baroque music now?

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In addition I can't imagine you could find a single person on this board whom would contend that jazz, as a medium, uses the most vulgar of human impulses as a foundation.
You'll have to explain this one for me. For example, here are two jazz pieces I came across today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V9VSxn2F9M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKpuR09s_mQ

I'd like your opinion on how these pieces use the "most vulgar of human impulses as a foundation".

I'm sorry to jump to conclusions, but your very fuzzy language seems to imply that you don't know anything about jazz, rather, you might have read something on the internet which sounded convincing and thus now take it as an opinion.

I would love to be proven wrong, though....


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Would a troll in any other forum smell as bad?

I recommend that anyone check his posting history before casting their pearls before swine.

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1994...number of neuron firings per year maybe?
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Originally posted by PianoPlayerMan1994:
[b]In addition I can't imagine you could find a single person on this board whom would contend that jazz, as a medium, uses the most vulgar of human impulses as a foundation....
Confusing "contest" and "contend" is kind of hilarious, given that it creates a statement that's the opposite of what's intended. Good thing he's not a lawyer; cases have been lost—and malpractice suits won—over less.

It reminds me of a lawyer I once knew who confused "prescribe" and "proscribe." 'Nuff said. wink

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my darling, you are quite mistaken. For the word contend has several different uses, here are just a few:

1)struggle to surmount
2)engage in a competition or campaign in order to win or achieve
3)assert something in a position in an argument

It should be evident that I was using the third usage. Feel free to verify what I have said.

Sotto, perhaps you should add a bit of deliberation and thoughtfulness to your posts so that you don't go making errors such as this in the future. I'm glad I could clear up your misunderstanding 3hearts

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Sotto, I just notocided in your post that your name is Steven. I believed you to be an elderly female from because of your earlier posts- so I obviously wouldn't have called your darling or used the heart emote if I had known your were a male(which I now assume you to be due to your signature)please let me know if im wrong as to your sex.

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Oh, damn. Now Steven is a darling. What next from this seemingly bottomless cesspool?


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Originally posted by PianoPlayerMan1994:
Sotto, I just notocided in your post that your name is Steven. I believed you to be an elderly female from because of your earlier posts- so I obviously wouldn't have called your darling or used the heart emote if I had known your were a male(which I now assume you to be due to your signature)please let me know if im wrong as to your sex.
I thought you hated old ladies wink


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#1128774 12/13/08 12:15 AM
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I quote [not properly -- the quote feature doesn't work on closed threads]

"You really are acting like a horrible old lady. Perhaps their is an angry dissaffected old lady's forum that you can join that would allow you to denounce us all more effectively, and with like minded disaffected grumpy old women."

Also, "Sotto, I just notocided in your post..."

Notocided? Notocided????


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I hate to admit it, but this has become far more amusing than vexing.

But the target is so easy that it's practically unsportsmanlike to engage the person.

Don't you love that simultaneously high and mighty yet pathetic and thoroughly wrong defense of "contend"?

You can't make this stuff up.

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I'm always up for a good round of semantic jousting!


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I know, our former (excluding Gyro, of course) resident troll is well on his way to being the current resident laughingstock.


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Ha, it's like I didn't even post at all.


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Originally posted by sotto voce:
I hate to admit it, but this has become far more amusing than vexing.

But the target is so easy that it's practically unsportsmanlike to engage the person.

Don't you love that simultaneously high and mighty yet pathetic and thoroughly wrong defense of "contend"?

You can't make this stuff up.

Steven
I guess my point did not come across. Let me be crystal clear:

the word contend has a number of different usages...
... one usage of the word contend is the way you though I meant it, "to engage in a competition or campaign in order to win or achieve".

However, this is not how i meant it.

The usage I was reffering to can be found in ANY dictionary under the word in question(content):

and i quote "to assert something as a position in an argument"

ex: "he contends that the judge was wrong"

here's the sentence I used:


"In addition I can't imagine you could find a single person on this board whom would contend that jazz, as a medium, uses the most vulgar of human impulses as a foundation...."

I hope it is all clear for you now sotto, you seem a bit confused on this matter even after my initial attempt to clear it up for you.

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The most vulgar of human impulses? Obviously -- to seek pleasure!

Jazz is very pleasurable, as is most good music!


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Originally posted by Horowitzian:
I know, our former (excluding Gyro, of course) resident troll is well on his way to being the current resident laughingstock.
Given that the intent is to anger and harass, it really might burst his bubble when he can no longer elicit that reaction.

He's already a laughworthy parody of himself. How long before we all become inured to the pestilence altogether?

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BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!


You CANNOT make this stuff up!


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Originally posted by PianoPlayerMan1994:

The usage I was reffering to can be found in ANY dictionary under the word in question(content):
The CONTENT of your post is a load of confusing uselessness.


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Originally posted by Horowitzian:
[b] I know, our former (excluding Gyro, of course) resident troll is well on his way to being the current resident laughingstock.
Given that the intent is to anger and harass, it really might burst his bubble when he can no longer elicit that reaction.

He's already a laughworthy parody of himself. How long before we all become inured to the pestilence altogether?

Steven [/b]
PPM might actually be the smartest one of us all! He's secretly plotting to kill gyro!


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Hey, I'm feeling a vulgar human impulse coming on right now. I guess all this talk of jazz got me all worked up and flustered!

PPM, I'm so sorry you're disappointed that I'm not an elderly female. But if you'll confirm that you're a young male—and at least four years older than your screen name suggests—well, I'm wondering what you look like at least.

So what are your stats? They say opposites attract, and surely that applies to the intelligence spectrum as well as age. Besides, I like 'em young and stupid. So what do you say?

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Steven (same way I've always signed my posts - don't be ashamed or embarrassed to admit you knew that all along - it's okay to be ... well, you know!)

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Steven (same way I've always signed my posts - don't be ashamed or embarrassed to admit you knew that all along - it's okay to be ... well, you know!)
Not that there's anything wrong with that!


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