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#1130158 - 01/08/05 10:19 AM
Re: George Winston muting question
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It's a harmonic actually. You press down on a string at a certain point with your finger and you'll get one of the overtones.
George Crumb has used it quite a bit in his music, and it's most commonly found in avant-garde 20th century music.
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#1130160 - 01/08/05 10:37 AM
Re: George Winston muting question
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winston does this on his 'plains' album, for example -- it's similar to a guitarist using the heel of the picking hand to partially mute the strings. where the hand is placed (in relation to the bridge, for example) determines whether or not the harmonics sound or not.
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#1130161 - 01/08/05 01:44 PM
Re: George Winston muting question
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If you attend a Jamie Cullum concert - you'll see quite a few "unconventional" things being done on a piano, including it being played like a bongo drum.
I think I have a piece on a CD where piano strings are being plucked. Needless to say, this is a simple tune since one can only go so far with this. Although, if you think about it, I suppose someone could take this much farther - even though this is not the way a piano is meant to be played!!!
I thought I heard it's best not to touch piano strings with your hands - the oils transfer to the strings and eventually they corrode them.
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#1130162 - 01/08/05 08:31 PM
Re: George Winston muting question
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Originally posted by PianoBeast10489:  When George Winston plays piano, he sometimes puts his hand in and touches the strings w/ his palm......If anyone knows what "muting" does, how you do it, and what peice you have seen it in, i would be very appreciative. [/b] George Winston, my favorite :3hearts: I love it when he does this "muting" on "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" and "Hummingbird". He talked a bit about this technique in his website: http://www.georgewinston.com. Check out the FAQ page (In case you haven't).
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#1130164 - 01/09/05 04:05 AM
Re: George Winston muting question
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I think you're probably talking about part 2? I don't think GW use any synth, he does play other instruments (guitar and harmonica).
He's really great with what he does with acoustic piano, and it's probably one of his techniques to produce such sound we heard in the music "Snow".
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#1130166 - 01/09/05 08:54 PM
Re: George Winston muting question
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I saw George perform a few years ago.
I saw him reach into the piano and mute the strings. For the life of me I couldn't figure out how *that* sound was coming from the piano. It was quite interesting to see/hear.
Of course it would have been even more interesting to see a camera view of where and how he places his hand on the strings.
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#1130167 - 01/10/05 02:05 PM
Re: George Winston muting question
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Originally posted by Jeanne W: If you attend a Jamie Cullum concert - you'll see quite a few "unconventional" things being done on a piano, including it being played like a bongo drum. I think I have a piece on a CD where piano strings are being plucked. Needless to say, this is a simple tune since one can only go so far with this. Although, if you think about it, I suppose someone could take this much farther - even though this is not the way a piano is meant to be played!!! I thought I heard it's best not to touch piano strings with your hands - the oils transfer to the strings and eventually they corrode them. ?? Jeanne W [/b] Thats what they told me when i bought mine. I guess when your George Winston and you can afford to go out and buy another Steinway it doesnt really matter.
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#1130169 - 01/11/05 07:47 AM
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