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#1132956 - 11/18/06 09:00 AM
Re: OPEN PIANO CHORD VOICINGS
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Registered: 11/09/06
Posts: 19
Loc: Texas
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hmmm
it seems to me you are stating that the 6(13) should be substituted on minor seventh chords...
typically this is not a superior choice as the seventh becomes dissonant melodically with a sixth in the lower part of the voicing... It also eliminates the primary non-root voice leading in the ii-V-I progression (7 to 3)
if the chord is a minor-major seventh chord or a m6/9 the sixth is a great choice! Often this chord is used as a tonic sound, as opposed to the dorian modality of the m7 chord...
other than that these are all useful voicings
jazz on!
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#1132957 - 11/18/06 11:48 AM
Re: OPEN PIANO CHORD VOICINGS
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Registered: 08/06/05
Posts: 418
Loc: Southwest
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forgive me for being dense here.
"For all Major seventh chords. Left hand 3 and 6 Right hand 2 5 1"
so for C, that would be
left hand right hand e a d g c?
is that a maj 7th chord?
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#1132958 - 11/18/06 11:49 AM
Re: OPEN PIANO CHORD VOICINGS
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Registered: 08/06/05
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sorry, am being dense, i need to keep on reading to understand. thanks,
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#1132959 - 11/18/06 04:26 PM
Re: OPEN PIANO CHORD VOICINGS
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Junior Member
Registered: 11/09/06
Posts: 19
Loc: Texas
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these are jazz voicings implying extended harmony, often these voicings imply that a bass player is playing the root of the chord
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#1132961 - 11/19/06 02:39 PM
Re: OPEN PIANO CHORD VOICINGS
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Junior Member
Registered: 11/09/06
Posts: 19
Loc: Texas
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please don't alter the grammar and spelling of my original quote... the correct plural of voicing is voicings.
the b7 over 6 doesn't create a linear tension, rather it creates a harmonic tension, created by a direct clash in harmony. It is true that these are not always bad, but by doing this you are taking that choice away from the person playing the solo, who is expecting the chord that is agreed upon in common practice.
that said, often m7 is over used in lead sheets, especially when the function of the chord is a tonic, rather than a minor ii. In the minor ii function, though, the 7-3 resolution in the ii-V progression is a critical movement, in fact "the" critical counterpoint to its root movement. In actuality a more "open" sound results in the delay or elimination of the resolution, instead creating an V7sus sound. eg F Bb Eb G C = F7sus or another voicing.
anyhow, although I agree that simplicity is important, and small movements create effective motion and progression in voicings, there is certainly more than one way to skin a cat!
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#1132963 - 11/19/06 11:48 PM
Re: OPEN PIANO CHORD VOICINGS
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Registered: 06/18/05
Posts: 83
Loc: Upstate NY
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please don't alter the grammar and spelling of my original quote... the correct plural of voicing is voicings.
Everyone knows what he meant. Ryan
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#1132964 - 11/20/06 12:11 AM
Re: OPEN PIANO CHORD VOICINGS
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Registered: 11/09/06
Posts: 19
Loc: Texas
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sure, I accept the spell-check explanation.
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