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#1133147 - 04/09/07 05:04 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Brubeck has very nice posture.
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#1133148 - 04/10/07 12:28 AM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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I like Brubeck, but does anyone here ever discuss modern jazz pianists like Brad Mehldau, Jean-Michel Pilc, Jason Moran just to name a few?

There are many great jazz pianists...many.
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#1133149 - 04/10/07 01:32 AM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Yes, and some of them may be better pianists than Dave Brubeck, but there are few who are as great musicians as he.
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#1133150 - 04/10/07 01:43 AM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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That's cool that you dig dave...as I said I'm a fan as well.

I'm not discounting his musicianship or 'greatness' just pointing out that there is a lot more going on in jazz than what I read about here on this forum, so making such a defined statement seems to close doors.

There are many great jazz musicians as he...
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#1133151 - 04/10/07 01:51 AM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Originally posted by J. Mark:
This is why I stay away from jazz. Seems to me you can't even discuss the topic without a bunch of juvenile arguments over "who is the best."

What a bunch of childish nonsense.

Back to something useful.... [/b]
Funny a similar thread was going on in classical regarding Brendel and Gould...
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#1133152 - 04/10/07 08:44 AM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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steveb40 - I had the pleasure of seeing Tord Gustavsen and his trio in Washington last December. Young (maybe 30?) jazz pianist from Norway. Powerful stuff.

While his posture is not as nice as Brubeck's, he's worth checking out.
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#1133153 - 04/10/07 10:57 AM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Ermo, Yes!...I like Tord and some other ECM artists. Have you heard Bobo Stenson?

I will check out Tord live in the fall.
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#1133154 - 04/10/07 11:19 AM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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I have not heard of Bobo Stenson. Do you have a CD of his that you would recommend? And how's his posture? And is Tord going to be in NYC in the fall?
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#1133155 - 04/10/07 09:14 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Bobo's posture is very bad.

I would recommend Serenity...Great record. I think Tord might be in NYC in the fall.
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#1133156 - 04/11/07 01:52 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Thanks for the recommendation.

If you're going anyway, get me a ticket, wouldja? Something not too far from the stage would be great.
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#1133157 - 04/11/07 03:26 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Ermo, I noticed that you've commented several times on the posture of certain pianists. Is there a particular reason why you seem to be interested in that issue? Is good posture more important in jazz piano than in classical piano?

Just wondering.
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#1133158 - 04/11/07 04:03 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Well, Mark, there was a lot of discussion earlier in this thread about the relative merits of these various giants of the jazz piano world, and I thought it was worth noting what beautiful posture Brubeck has. In fact, if you were judging on posture you'd have to say Brubeck is the best, hands down.

Compared to Brubeck, OP is a total slouch. And Tatum isn't much better.

And have you ever seen Bill Evans? The dude plays doubled over like he has stomach cramps.

And Monk? Forgettaboutit! He looks like a girl riding a horse side saddle ... and the freakin hats! You won't see Brubeck wearing any silly hats, no sir.

Yep, Brubeck has by far the best posture.
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#1133159 - 04/11/07 04:25 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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I'm a really big jazz fan, and I've even heard Take 5, but those other names don't sound familiar. So I guess my answer is, not only have I not seen their posture, I've never even heard of them! LOL!
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#1133160 - 04/11/07 04:30 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Hey, don't take my word for it. Check out these clips:

Brubeck: Great Posture!

Bill Evans: Stomach Flu?

Monk: Maybe His Ears Are Cold?
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#1133161 - 04/11/07 04:40 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Wow, you're right. I never heard of Evans and Monk, but Brubeck looks much younger than I pictured him.
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#1133162 - 04/11/07 09:46 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Take a look at this last performance of Bill's 3 weeks before he died here in NY....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgi9v8xfDwk
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#1133163 - 04/11/07 11:52 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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In all seriousness, that dude was friggin incredible. Thanks for pointing out the clip, Steve. I also actually really like that clip of My Foolish Heart that I put up. Bill was channeling Chopin a little.
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#1133164 - 04/16/07 01:55 AM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Dave Brubeck and his quartet put on a great show with a big band tonight. It just kept getting better and better.
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#1133165 - 04/16/07 02:48 AM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Bill Evans channeled Chopin's left hand, and Claude Debussy's harmonies.

Jean-Yves Thibaudet recorded an improvised album of Evans tunes titled "Conversations with Bill Evans". It's great playing and can be an ear opening exposition of the Evans style and its relation to the French Impressionist composers. (Tea and cakes will be served after the lecture.)

Yes, Bill Evans had a stomach ache in 1980 (he died of a bleeding ulcer in September of that year) though he played down close to the keys for most of his career. A very sad ending for one of jazz piano's great innovators.

And the fellow who claimed to be a big jazz fan but hadn't heard of Bill Evans or Monk? Thats a kind of tautology, don't you think? You owe it to yourself to listen to these people, especially these two people, who helped invent bebop and modern jazz harmonies.

Evans plays beautifully and is a master craftsman. He was the Co-Producer of the most famous jazz recording of all time, played on many seminal recordings of the period, and wrote many tunes (Waltz for Debby, Turn Out the Stars, Very Early, Nardis, Blue in Green, etc. He invented the piano trio as a vehicle for three soloists, and first used double tracking with his Conversations with Myself. He was one of the most influential jazz pianists from the 1950s until his death in 1980.

Monk one of the few artists of the time known by a single name--there was Bird, there was Diz, and there was Monk. He was witty and astonishing, unique and colorful, a legend in his own time. He wrote many standards: Mysterioso, Well, You Needn't, Ruby My Dear, Off Minor, Pannonica, and my all-time favorite: 'Round Midnite (aka 'Round About Midnight). Really, you've not heard of Monk?

BDB, I'm surprised the Brubeck thing is still going on. I'm with you, Dave is a gentleman and a scholar and he helped invent the West Coast thing. Virtuosity ain't but a piece of the whole story, and while Dave can't play flashy runs anymore (I never could!), his music (and his accomplishments), are still awesome to witness.

G'nite all.
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#1133166 - 04/16/07 05:48 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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And the fellow who claimed to be a big jazz fan but hadn't heard of Bill Evans or Monk? Thats a kind of tautology, don't you think?
Actually, I don't believe so. I think something such as, "Bill Evans is either the best jazz pianist in the world, or he isn't," or, "Monk is a wonderful jazz piano-playing pianist" might be a tautology.

In any case, I'm sure I've heard their music, but I don't remember names or song titles. I just like listening to jazz. I may have overstated my affinity for the genre.
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#1133167 - 04/20/07 02:43 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Perhaps this is a bit late in the discussion but FWIW I think of the "original" Dave Brubeck Quartet (DBQ -with Morello, Desmond & Wright) as one of the best jazz quartets of all time. DBQ made huge contributions to jazz - I might even go as far as to say put the piano, bass, drums & sax jazz quartet on the map - certainly introduced jazz to "mainstream" American music. However, Dave Brubeck, as a pianist - apart from his quartet - "solo" if you will, never was or ever will be in a league like Art Tatum, Oscar, Bill Evans, or a Herbie Hancock. This is not intended to take anything away from DB - but pianistically speaking, with his physical limitations, DB was largely an accompanist in the DBQ - not what I would consider to be a strong, exciting or innovative soloist - Desmond held that title and shared it, at times, with Morello. Bottom line - I'll listen to DBQ every chance I get.
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#1133168 - 04/20/07 03:10 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Dave Brubeck is a musical experience, not necessarily a pianistic experience, just like Duke Ellington. There are a lot of great pianists out there, but it is the great musicians I enjoy most.
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#1133169 - 04/20/07 06:17 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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And the fellow who claimed to be a big jazz fan but hadn't heard of Bill Evans or Monk? Thats a kind of tautology, don't you think?
Actually, I don't believe so. I think something such as, "Bill Evans is either the best jazz pianist in the world, or he isn't," or, "Monk is a wonderful jazz piano-playing pianist" might be a tautology.

In any case, I'm sure I've heard their music, but I don't remember names or song titles. I just like listening to jazz. I may have overstated my affinity for the genre. [/b]
No harm meant, really, and I appreciate your candor (and semantics lesson as I was never sure of the difference between a tautology and an oxymoron. Besides, start tossing an oxymoron around and people do get insulted!)

Excuse me while I hijack this thread:

My favorite Bill Evans recording: Moonbeams. A favorite Monk album--too difficult to define as there's been so many re-releases of late.

If you're a fan of Tony Bennett, check out the Bill Evans / Tony Bennett album (that's the title).

best wishes,

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#1133170 - 04/20/07 10:41 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Dave Brubeck is a musical experience, not necessarily a pianistic experience, just like Duke Ellington. There are a lot of great pianists out there, but it is the great musicians I enjoy most. [/b]
I think Bill Evans, Monk etc are great musicians as well. Certainly the Bill Evans trio is a musical experience...

Duke was quite a pianist...Listen to Money Jungle with Mingus and Max Roach...
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#1133171 - 04/21/07 02:48 AM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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#1133172 - 04/21/07 01:31 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Originally posted by AD:
Who else smokes with his left while tinkling with his right.
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It's been awhile since I've seen a piano in a club or bar with - what used to be - ubiquitous brown and black marks on the bass keys. But there was a time in the not too distant past when a piano player with a butt, either in their mouths or burning the keytops, would have been a very normal sight.

And thanks for posting the Basie clip. What a great rhythm section that was. A fine example of of how sometimes less can be more.
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#1133173 - 04/21/07 06:45 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Originally posted by AD:
Who else smokes with his left while tinkling with his right.
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It's been awhile since I've seen a piano in a club or bar with - what used to be - ubiquitous brown and black marks on the bass keys. But there was a time in the not too distant past when a piano player with a butt, either in their mouths or burning the keytops, would have been a very normal sight.

And thanks for posting the Basie clip. What a great rhythm section that was. A fine example of of how sometimes less can be more. [/b]
And burn marks on the music desk, too.

I don't miss smoking at all! That nasty habit had me by the throat for almost 20 years. Now, it's been over 20 years since I smoked, and that seems like a different lifetime (still play some of the same tunes, though!).
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#1133174 - 04/23/07 11:18 AM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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ipgrunt wrote:
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No harm meant, really, and I appreciate your candor (and semantics lesson as I was never sure of the difference between a tautology and an oxymoron. Besides, start tossing an oxymoron around and people do get insulted!)
Actually, I need to thank you. I had no idea what a tautology was until I looked it up subsequent to reading your post. Now that I know what it means, I try to use it in conversation at least once every day.
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#1133175 - 04/23/07 01:43 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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You're very welcome.

We have both learned something--that's a good day.
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#1133176 - 04/23/07 05:52 PM Re: Dave Brubeck - Take Five
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Piano Blues by Clint Eastwood is a great DVD and Dave Brubeck played a tune called Travellin’ Blues, it was recorded in 2002 at a session organized by Eastwood and Bruce Ricker. It was recorded before but this time there is a lot of feeling and soul and it is one of the best tunes on the whole disk and there are some great players and Dave holds his own in his eighties. Dave has at least four jazz standards that every jazz musician knows about or plays
TAKE FIVE
IN YOUR OWN SWEET WAY
BLUE RONDO ALA TURK
IT'S A RAGGY WALTZ
Dave concerts are usually sold out and they always seem to add extra shows to accommodate the crowds.

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The Brubeck Fellowship Program is a one- or two-year full-scholarship program in jazz performance for five musicians who are 18 to 19 years of age. These individuals, known as the Brubeck Fellows, comprise the Brubeck Institute Jazz Quintet. The Fellows study with Institute faculty, visiting jazz educators, artists, clinicians, and masters, and Bay Area professional musicians. They may also perform with ensembles in the Conservatory of Music and may take selected classes in the Conservatory and University for university credit. Upon completion of the program, they receive the Brubeck Institute Certificate of Jazz Performance and go on to collegiate programs in jazz studies or pursue careers in performance. They are also expected to serve as ambassadors for jazz, and promote the values epitomized by the life and music of Dave Brubeck.

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Jazz has been more than just about those that play well it also about community from the players to the club owners to the angels that support live jazz with money to produce the music and bring concerts to the people to enjoy. It includes the volunteers that take tickets to those that get the word out. David Brubeck BY NO MEANS is the same piano player as Oscar Peterson and others that have fantastic technique but to not acknowledge all the contributions he has made to jazz based on his lack of chops is not right. But then again why should he care he plays pack out concerts with his kids and is having the time of his life and he doesn't have to justify his music or what he has done to anyone you can read about as he has secured his place in jazz history. DPVJAZZ

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