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#1135075 - 08/19/07 11:51 AM more like bill evans, Red Garland?
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I would like to find more jazz trio's that sound like Bill Evans and Red Garland, any suggestions?

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#1135076 - 08/20/07 04:43 AM Re: more like bill evans, Red Garland?
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#1135077 - 08/20/07 01:18 PM Re: more like bill evans, Red Garland?
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And very different players.

You might try Benny Green.
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#1135078 - 08/20/07 02:19 PM Re: more like bill evans, Red Garland?
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Oscar Peterson, for one.

I would recommend any 60's or 70's post-bop trio album. They're all good.

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#1135079 - 08/20/07 10:15 PM Re: more like bill evans, Red Garland?
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Listen to Gene Harris and Wynton Kelly and of course George Shearing for the block chord approach plus REDS influences in their playing. Ahmad Jamal and Monty Alexander were influenced by RED and their playing sounds like it. I believed that Art Tatum was his super-hero plus he learned the styles of James P Johnson, Count Basie, and Nat Cole. THESE ARE THE ONES HE STUDIED FOR PHRASING AND LICKS. Other influences were Teddy Wilson, Luckey Roberts and he also studied and hung with Bud Powell. Red started playing at 18 years old and not bad for a late bloomer. DPVJAZZ

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#1135080 - 08/21/07 05:11 PM Re: more like bill evans, Red Garland?
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Just realized that Green has a website:

http://www.amsartists.com/benny_green/index.html

There are a few things on YouTube as well.
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#1135081 - 08/21/07 11:48 PM Re: more like bill evans, Red Garland?
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Wynton Kelly Trio

Vince Guaraldi was sort of influenced by Red Garland and Wynton Kelly.

John Lewis from the MJQ is also easy to listen to.
Erroll Garner is fun too.
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#1135082 - 09/08/07 10:17 PM Re: more like bill evans, Red Garland?
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Howdy, I'm new here. I'm arriving late for this thread, but here is my .02.

My context (in addition avid listening) is transcription for the purpose of expanding my own jazz improvisation vocabulary. There are a lot of "licks" that are played by many (or even most) jazz piano players, but Bill Evans is in a category by himself vocabulary-wise. Evans seldom plays the "straight" vocabulary; there always seems to be a departure of some sort from the "simple" idea. Red Garland, on the other hand, did play the pretty conventional bebop vocabulary.

For me, there is nobody else like Evans, but there are a number of others who play(ed) a lot of the same vocabulary Red played.

Sonny Clark is one. All of his albums are great, and he's on the early Dexter Gordon and Grant Green albums. I love transcribing and learning Sonny's vocabulary, because it's beautifully played but not has hard to understand as Bill Evans' ideas.

Barry Harris is another. Incidentally Barry played on some Dexter Gordon albums after Sonny's tragic death (in 1962, I think). Barry also has some trio records, and played on some early Cannonball Adderley albums...and he (still, I think) runs a weekly jazz clinic in Manhattan.

Having said all that, your intent might not have been for analytical listening at all...in which case I *still* recommend Sonny Clark and Barry Harris.

Several of my transcriptions of Evans, Garland, Clark and Harris can be downloaded here: http://music.johngroves.net/transcriptions.html

John

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#1135083 - 09/10/07 04:02 PM Re: more like bill evans, Red Garland?
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Hi John - and welcome
Thanks for generously sharing the fruits of some of your endeavours - unfortunately when I tried to access the transcriptions most of them have a problem with the link. I did however get at Anthropology - so will be interested to play that through in a moment or two..
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#1135084 - 09/11/07 01:11 AM Re: more like bill evans, Red Garland?
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Thanks for the heads-up on the broken links, Tom. I think they're fixed now. On a trial download, some of the pdfs are hard to read in the preview app on my mac (bar lines seem to be gray rather than black, and kinda faint; I have no idea why, but I'll re-generate them from Finale if it's a problem for anybody else).

Anyway, this sort of thing is fun to share. I was told many times that I needed to do my own transcriptions and learn to play them; that nothing less would do in the service of /really/ learning the jazz vocabulary. I've come to agree, though I suspect that if I was a /really/ good sight reader it might be easier to learn from others' transcriptions. Corrections also welcome...

One thing I've done in many of my transcriptions is annotate them as to the "underlying idea" being played. If anybody wants to engage in discussion, argument or elaboration as to any of these, I'm game. Some annotations might only make sense to me (feel free ask, argue, or call me out on these as well).

Cheers,
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#1135085 - 09/11/07 08:34 PM Re: more like bill evans, Red Garland?
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Registered: 10/28/06
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If you like Red Garland and Bill Evans, you should have really try Oscar Peterson, Hampton Hawes and Bobby Timmons. Also I'll second Wynton Kelly and Sonny Clark.

Peace out,
D.

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