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#1139454 - 12/16/07 06:27 AM Left hand patterns
Jugo Offline
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Registered: 12/15/07
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Hello, new here

I need a little help, how do you create patterns for the left hand to play? need some guidance

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#1139455 - 12/16/07 07:57 AM Re: Left hand patterns
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1) Learn how to form chords.

2) Play chord tones in a variety of rhythms.
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#1139456 - 12/16/07 08:49 AM Re: Left hand patterns
Gyro Offline
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Say, you have the typical sheet music for some
popular/jazz/rock/country song, with melody line
and guitar chord symbols above and a piano
rendition on the bottom. If you try to
just play the piano arrangement, as written,
it's going to sound sketchy. If you just
play the chords and melody, that might
also sound sketchy. A good-sounding
piano arrangement usually lies somewhere
in between these.

Here's what I usually try to do. First of all,
you need to be able to play all of the chords
in root position. This seems like a trivial
step, since the chords are all listed right
on the score, but this is not something
to take for granted, so make sure you can
do this before you even try anything else.

Then, once you can play all the chords in
root position, start doing some improvising
with just the chords. That is, playing
the chords in root position in the l.h.,
improvise a r.h. part by ear. This can
be anything, and may not sound at all like
what the song actually sounds like, but
that's okay, because what you're trying to
do is to prime your ear for improvising
with this particular chord series--put in
a lot of arpeggios and long runs and so
forth, because in your final arrangement
these are the kinds of things you typically
want.

Then after you've done this for a while,
return to the sht. music and try playing
the piano rendition, as written. This
is not a trivial step either, because
some of these are quite difficult technically.
Then after you can do this, start to
improvise your own arrangement, combining
the written piano version with what you've
previously practiced in your improvising
above. With all the practice you've
done this should come to you more or
less naturally, that is, you'll begin
to see what you need to add to the
written piano part and what you can
glean from it in order to produce your
own nice-sounding arrangement. The
key step in this whole process is
the practice with improvising with
the basic chord series in root position,
because this is what primes you for playing
by ear.

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#1139457 - 12/16/07 10:53 AM Re: Left hand patterns
ktom Offline
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Mahlzeit is atright to the point and Gyro as ever is very comprehensive - and I agree totally with both.. but if you say what sort of music you are trying to play, someone might be able to give you some stuff to focus on.. which might get you playing quicker..
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#1139458 - 12/17/07 06:10 AM Re: Left hand patterns
Jugo Offline
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Registered: 12/15/07
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Thnx for the advice

Im playing rock/metal :}

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#1139459 - 01/04/08 05:25 PM Re: Left hand patterns
Jugo Offline
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Registered: 12/15/07
Posts: 17
hmm.. no more replies. I'm still having trouble..
the

1) Learn how to form chords.

2) Play chord tones in a variety of rhythms.

what chords should I learn to play? I only know how to form the major and minor triads.. and there's not many note's to play (only 3)

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#1139460 - 01/04/08 05:56 PM Re: Left hand patterns
The Emperor Offline
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Registered: 11/22/06
Posts: 96
Loc: Lagos, Portugal
Well i normaly play chords or arpeggios or even scales sometimes.
Now it all comes to creativity, you can have lots of diferent rhythms and patterns with those, it all comes to what you feel fits the song.

Chords, well try learning the 7th chords(minor, major, dominant, augmented,diminished...)

These should keep you busy.

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#1139461 - 01/04/08 08:25 PM Re: Left hand patterns
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Roll the " 1 5 10 " arpeggio in the left hand for each chord, it sounds better than 1 5 8 arpeggios
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#1139462 - 01/21/08 11:41 AM Re: Left hand patterns
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Registered: 11/27/07
Posts: 3
Loc: USA
scales and chords - you have those down , you've got 90% of the battle won. The other 10% is just staying consistent.
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#1139463 - 01/25/08 12:09 PM Re: Left hand patterns
keithmusic Offline
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Registered: 04/18/07
Posts: 129
Loc: Atlanta, GA
In the left hand you might want to focus more on arpeggios and spacing them out, similar to the overtone series, that spaces out notes in low registers to let them breathe. rintincop's suggestion of 1 5 10 is excellent.
The one thing to look out for is the use of piano in rock and metal styles. Bass/drums/guitar take up so much space there there is sometimes not much room left for left hand piano. So if there is the arpeggios work but staying well within the chord, hitting chord tones on strong beats, no stepwise lines will usu. work. So arpeggios or octaves or a simple piano bass line above the actual bass line is safest.
And remember, "Less is More". It's the creed of the pros.
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#1139464 - 01/26/08 08:03 AM Re: Left hand patterns
ktom Offline
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Hi Jugo - rock/metal.. OK - I have played in a few rock bands though none that would class as metal. Rock is generally fairly simple harmonically. Playing with a bass means you need to avoid clashes. This means keeping the left hand simple and remembering you are part of the rhythm section. I would stick to a very simple left hand - something like root/5/octave can be played to good effect. Play a simple right hand and listen to the drums/bass to either reinforce the rhythm or play a counter-rhythm.. If you get the chance its good to record rehearsals and listen back - you will soon hear what works and what doesn't.
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#1139465 - 01/26/08 11:29 AM Re: Left hand patterns
Rodney Offline
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Registered: 10/28/04
Posts: 735
Loc: Caledon ON, Canada
Take a look at the following two volumes:

Playing Keyboard Bass Lines Left-Hand Technique for Keyboards
by John Valerio

Steinway & Sons: Jazz Piano: The Left Hand
by Riccardo Scivales

These should provide a good start and both go WAY beyond the 1-5-8 or 1-5-10 arps.

Rodney

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#1139466 - 01/26/08 11:54 AM Re: Left hand patterns
KeyboardJungle Offline
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Registered: 12/09/07
Posts: 52
Loc: Maryland
here is a LH arpegio pattern that is very easy to play and sounds pretty good. If sounds nice and full because it uses the 1,5 ,8,9,and 10. I'll do my best to explain it.

assume a C chord.

Beats 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 +
Tones 1 5 8 5 9 5 10 5
Notes C G C G D G E G

Try it and let me know what you think. You can also move down from the 10 the 8th:

1 5 10 5 9 5 8 5

Another variation:

1 5 8 9 10 9 8 5

Make adjustments as necessary - b10 if you are playing a minor, #5 if you are playing an aug, etc.

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#1139467 - 01/26/08 03:37 PM Re: Left hand patterns
ktom Offline
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Loc: Somerset UK
Jugo - are you playing in a band or solo?
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#1139468 - 02/06/08 12:46 AM Re: Left hand patterns
FogVilleLad Offline
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Registered: 03/02/05
Posts: 4673
Loc: San Francisco
this book/CD might be worth trying. Not expensive.

And this one in Hal Leonard's Signature Licks series.

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