Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

Trying Something New with Search
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
Who's Online
72 registered (bennevis, AndrewJCW, agoriaket, CarlosCC, beet31425, 19 invisible), 1006 Guests and 6 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Sheet Music
(PW is an affiliate)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
Topic Options
#1140514 - 06/30/07 12:04 AM Old West Piano Style
jdm242 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 06/11/07
Posts: 4
Loc: AZ
I'm hoping to write a pretty simple arrangement for a song with an "old west/saloon" type piano in the backing track. Does anybody have any information on the prevalent techniques or styles used to compose and perform songs during that time?

Sorry for my vague descriptions, it's hard to explain what I know almost nothing about. I'm still a beginner and not familiar with very many styles. Any information would be helpful and appreciated. Thanks!

Top
Piano & Music Accessories
#1140515 - 06/30/07 01:05 AM Re: Old West Piano Style
ipgrunt Offline
Full Member

Registered: 06/06/05
Posts: 419
Loc: Western US
Are you after the style that is called "honky-tonk" piano?
_________________________
-- ipgrunt
Amateur pianist, Son of a Pro

Top
#1140516 - 06/30/07 02:08 AM Re: Old West Piano Style
Kreisler Offline


Registered: 11/27/02
Posts: 13825
Loc: Iowa City, IA
I'd find information on stride or ragtime styles. The new Steinway series has a book called "Jazz Piano: The Left Hand" that might be of use.
_________________________
"If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt)

www.pianoped.com
www.youtube.com/user/UIPianoPed

Top
#1140517 - 06/30/07 03:06 AM Re: Old West Piano Style
ktom Offline
Full Member

Registered: 05/07/07
Posts: 212
Loc: Somerset UK
The music played in western movies is generally the "honky tonk" sounding ragtime that is referred to above - so the advice is sound.
Interestingly, ragtime didnt move mainstream from its african american origins until years after the "Wild West" period when songs like "Clementine" were written. Maybe the movies had it wrong?... surely not!!
However, I see what you want is the honky tonk sound so... yes stride left hand, busy right hand, bit of a 2/4 feel, keep the chords simple, should work..
_________________________
Steinway K - Kurzweil PC 88(wrecked and sold for spares) - Yamaha S90 - rhodes 760 - korg wavestation- Hammond XK1 etc..

Top
#1140518 - 10/01/08 10:22 AM Re: Old West Piano Style
tony4704 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 10/01/08
Posts: 5
Monica K.
Any chance your still on here and could send me those two sheets of music? \:\)

Top
#1140519 - 10/01/08 12:08 PM Re: Old West Piano Style
jotur Offline
6000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/16/06
Posts: 6032
Loc: Santa Fe, NM
I've made up some "honky tonk" versions of some old-time tunes. Yes, I use a stride left hand, or a fake version of it if I need to because the tempo is really fast. And for the right hand I imitate the banjo player \:\)

So the left hand plays the tonic of the chord somewhere an octave below middle C on the first beat, and then plays the chord up around middle C on the off-beat (the back beat, the *and* of the beat, as in "one-and two-and"). Then on beat 2 play the 5th note of the scale somewhere below where you played the tonic, and the chord again on 2-and. That's hard at speed. To "fake" it (which on 90% of stuff is the best I can do) just spread your hand over an octave, either on the tonic or the fifth, and play the tonic on the beat, the fifth on the second beat, and whatever you can reach that's in your span on the off-beat. Works for me.

In the right hand I play the melody usually with the pinky, and it's usually on the beat, and fill in the off beat with a note from the chord. Sometimes I will syncopate with both notes together at the end of a phrase.

So the left hand goes "oom-pah" on the beat, and the right hand is sort of "finger picking" the melody and the fills.

That may be more than any one wanted to know, and may be what most folks knew to start with, but it's the way I first approached it conceptually :p

Cathy
_________________________
Cathy

Practice like you are the worst; play like you are the best - anonymous

Top
#1140520 - 10/01/08 12:11 PM Re: Old West Piano Style
jotur Offline
6000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/16/06
Posts: 6032
Loc: Santa Fe, NM
dbl post
_________________________
Cathy

Practice like you are the worst; play like you are the best - anonymous

Top
#1140521 - 10/01/08 12:18 PM Re: Old West Piano Style
jotur Offline
6000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/16/06
Posts: 6032
Loc: Santa Fe, NM
tony - you can pm Monica K by clicking on her name next to one of her posts and then finding the "new private message" words in orange. Or you can use the "community directory" search at the top of the page. She reads a lot of posts, but maybe not Old West Piano Style -

Cathy
_________________________
Cathy

Practice like you are the worst; play like you are the best - anonymous

Top

Moderator:  sharpsandflats 
Shop our Store for Music Lovers!
Back to School Music SALE!
Save 10% in our online store
.
Just enter SAVE10 in the coupon box during checkout. *
And YES, you can save 10% AND still get free shipping on Jansen Artist benches!
PianoSupplies.com is Piano World's Online Store
Please visit our store today.
* Sale does not apply to advertising, how old requests, or any non-tangible items. Can not be combined with any other promotions. Ends August 31, 2015
(ad) Teaching Children Music
Teaching Music to Children
(ad) Yamaha Stage Pianos
Yamaha CP4 & CP40 Stage Pianos
(ads) PD - WNG - MH
Mason & Hamlin Piano Factory Tours
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
New Topics - Multiple Forums
My first piano, I appreciate your feedback.
by agoriaket
Today at 04:05 AM
schubert Impromptu op 90 no 3
by sor
Today at 02:47 AM
How do you store your sheet music and books?
by TwoSnowflakes
Today at 12:23 AM
New Teacher Recommending Less Practice?
by TX-Bluebonnet
Yesterday at 11:03 PM
What should I do after high school with the piano?
by boogiewoogie123
Yesterday at 09:51 PM
What's Hot!!
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
-------------------
PIANO BOOKS
Forum Stats
80,575 Registered Members
44 Forums
166,554 Topics
2,440,607 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2015 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission