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#1142326 - 02/18/08 08:15 PM Billy or Elton
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Me and my friends were just having this debate...
Who's a better piano player, Billy Joel or Elton John?
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#1142327 - 02/19/08 12:09 PM Re: Billy or Elton
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I hate to say this because I'm a huge Billy fan but Elton, in my opinion, is a better player. Billy has a "weak left hand" - as he's admitted in interviews. You can also notice this in their sheet music - Billy tends to do left hand octaves while Elton get's a bit fancier with the bass.

But the above is my opinion on playing - I think Billy is better overall musician.

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#1142328 - 02/19/08 12:41 PM Re: Billy or Elton
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L1037 - was my vid any help with M Sally? - Elton -v- Billy - no idea.. both hugely successful.. different styles.. difficult to say either is better
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#1142329 - 02/19/08 12:43 PM Re: Billy or Elton
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I just want them to both be on stage together like they did many years ago.

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#1142330 - 02/19/08 01:20 PM Re: Billy or Elton
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My opinion for what it's worth; Billy Joel is the better pianist. I really don't think Elton John would be able to play the 'Root Beer Rag'. Even though Billy states his left hand is weak, this piece appears to be quite a workout.

Anyway, I like Billy Joel's music better. Elton used to write good rockers with Bernie Taupin's help but I find his more recent music to be too mundane and MOR oriented. Just my opinion.
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#1142331 - 02/19/08 07:38 PM Re: Billy or Elton
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Probably impossible to say who's the better player, but considering their entire career, I would say Billy has put the piano more at the frontend of his music than Elton. In any case, I love and admire them both.

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#1142332 - 02/20/08 10:21 AM Re: Billy or Elton
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I love both, but am a bigger fan of Billy's music though Elton has a lot going for him as well. As for the better pianist, I think they're both equally great--Billy Joel has the whole "I can play that too" thing going for him and Elton has the whole "WOW. What a machine!" thing. hehe
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#1142333 - 02/20/08 07:22 PM Re: Billy or Elton
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I can't say for sure about the piano playing. As far as composition goes, though, I'd say Johnny boy can suck Billy's boots!
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#1142334 - 02/20/08 08:06 PM Re: Billy or Elton
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Originally posted by ktom:
L1037 - was my vid any help with M Sally? - Elton -v- Billy - no idea.. both hugely successful.. different styles.. difficult to say either is better [/b]
It was great, Thank you!
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#1142335 - 02/20/08 08:49 PM Re: Billy or Elton
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What criteria would you use to gauge if someone at that level is better than someone else at that level? Personally, I like both of them and the thought of which one plays better never even entered my mind. I will say that I like Billy's music more though.
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#1142336 - 02/20/08 08:51 PM Re: Billy or Elton
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It seems to me there are more technically difficult chops in Billy's music. E.J. is a great tunesmith still I think Bill has the edge there too for the most part.

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#1142337 - 02/21/08 11:34 AM Re: Billy or Elton
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Originally posted by dvs cycles:
I just want them to both be on stage together like they did many years ago. [/b]
They are amazing showmen and exponentially moreso when performing together! I saw them back in 1994(?) and would jump at the chance to see them again. They played a mean Dueling Pianos, to be sure!
I love this photo of them, which hints at their silliness together...


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#1142338 - 02/27/08 04:53 PM Re: Billy or Elton
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I like more Elton John's songs and his piano playing, but I have listened few songs by Billy Joel.

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#1142339 - 02/29/08 08:04 AM Re: Billy or Elton
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I didn't see them on tour together, but friends of mine who had a chance to go said that Billy played rings around Elvis.
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#1142340 - 02/29/08 08:21 AM Re: Billy or Elton
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Two entirely different styles and types of music. Billy's music much more complex. Elton's music much more sensitive. Personally, I like Billy's playing better becuase I perfer playing his music, but it really is a toss-up.
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#1142341 - 02/29/08 12:39 PM Re: Billy or Elton
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Originally posted by rustyfingers:
I didn't see them on tour together, but friends of mine who had a chance to go said that Billy played rings around Elvis. [/b]
Elvis? Did I say Elvis? Where did that come from? I'm an idiot. Obviously I meant Elton. :duh:
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#1142342 - 02/29/08 12:57 PM Re: Billy or Elton
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Originally posted by rustyfingers:
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Originally posted by rustyfingers:
I didn't see them on tour together, but friends of mine who had a chance to go said that Billy played rings around Elvis. [/b]
Elvis? Did I say Elvis? Where did that come from? I'm an idiot. Obviously I meant Elton. :duh: [/b]
:D

You are not an idiot!
It was just those rustytypingfingers of yours ;\)

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#1142343 - 03/01/08 12:15 AM Re: Billy or Elton
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#1142344 - 03/01/08 03:56 PM Re: Billy or Elton
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In my opinion it's impossible to compare two different styles. You like what you like and each has their good points.

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#1142345 - 03/02/08 06:19 AM Re: Billy or Elton
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Originally posted by L1037:
Me and my friends were just having this debate...
Who's a better piano player, Billy Joel or Elton John? [/b]
In the same style? That's an easy one. Nicky Hopkins, Billy Preston, and especially Richard Tee.

Bruce Hornsby plays a similar style of comp in some tunes, but obviosuly is influenced by Keith Jarrett's rhythmic comps and sense of rhythmically diverse melodies and fills.
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#1142346 - 03/04/08 02:16 PM Re: Billy or Elton
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And what does your reply have to do with the question?

Anyway, I dont know who is better, but I think Billy Joel once said that he wished he would play as good as Elton.
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#1142347 - 03/04/08 02:48 PM Re: Billy or Elton
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I enjoy them both, and I agree in concert together they put on a fantastic show (saw them in Hartford, CT a few years ago).

I'd personally give a slight edge to Billy, but that's just my opinion.

I play the Root Beer Rag (well ok, I try) and although I'm sure our classical members would think it was simplistic, I can tell you it's a pretty good workout.

BTW, Billy is coming to Mohegan Sun (big casino here in CT). He sold out 5 shows, instantly!

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