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#1147912 - 09/30/05 01:20 PM Are Key Changes Expected In This Song?
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I've written a song for piano which plays c.five minutes. There are two melodies, each with variations.

The A melody is a jazz waltz. The B melody, which is also in 3/4 time, has allusions to classical (and more specifically, ballet).

I'm seeking opinions re whether changes of key are expected in a work of this length which contains allusions to classical music.

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#1147913 - 09/30/05 05:45 PM Re: Are Key Changes Expected In This Song?
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i would definitely modulate to another key for melody B, but return to tonic key at the end (if you're going to recap).

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#1147914 - 10/01/05 03:00 PM Re: Are Key Changes Expected In This Song?
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signa,

Thanks for replying. The basic key is G, and I've been fiddling with moduating to C for A2 and introducing some substitute chords in A3.

I've been relying on the fact that B2 and B3 move to a higher register.

Today I'll see what I can do re just changing the key for the B's.

This project is providing me with more of a music education than I hoped for;-)

DavidH

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#1147915 - 10/02/05 12:51 AM Re: Are Key Changes Expected In This Song?
signa Offline
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that sounds good, and i always think changing keys is essential to a relatively larger size work and make it sound more interesting or dramatic. even some song writers would write a 1 or 2 minute long song with at least one modulation (Elton John's coming to my mind) in it, and i usually like such a song because of it.

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#1147916 - 10/04/05 03:00 PM Re: Are Key Changes Expected In This Song?
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signa,

Made a good start on rewriting the B variations in A. Enjoyable, tho I really wish that this thing were finished.

DavidH

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#1147917 - 12/15/05 12:10 AM Re: Are Key Changes Expected In This Song?
PianoBeast10489 Offline
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Registered: 11/17/04
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Back in March, I sent some of my music to some local college professors, i.e. William and Mary, UVA, Vtech... The main thing they had to say to improve my music was more modulations. I started modulating A LOT more often, and they said it improved the music a lot. I am still keeping in touch with them, but I remember that being a big concern of theirs... not enough modulation. Modulation of themes also creates a more interesting feel to a piece. In a 10 minute long concerto movement, if you were to never modulate, it would get very monotonous.

In the end, modulating is good to do!

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