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#1148518 - 12/23/05 08:04 PM
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Registered: 07/28/04
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well guys after reviewing the Frost a little more I found many more suitable ones and so I agree we should just use the Frost since everyone seems to be in resounding agreement of their preference for Frost.
So I vote Frost but I'll post later about staking my claim on a particular poem because I can't decide between a couple that I like at the moment.
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#1148521 - 12/24/05 12:50 AM
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ok so far:
signa has: "Meeting and Passing" sarabande has: "A Patch of Old Snow"
and I will go ahead and take: "An Old Man's Winter Night" if nobody minds
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#1148522 - 12/24/05 02:46 AM
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Ooh, good poem Req! I can't wait to hear that one. signa took a very nice sonnet, too... certainly an intimate one. So far, I like the selections very much!  I will refrain from chosing until I can get back to Philadelphia (New Years' Eve). I want to "tinker" before settling, so I'll probably choose in the first week of January...if that is all right with everyone else. I've a mind for either "Out, out---" or "Brown's Descent, or the Willy-Nilly Slide"...not sure yet...but I really like those two. (Of course, my favorite is "The Road Not Taken", but if I took it, I wouldn't exactly be following his advice... :p )
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#1148523 - 12/24/05 02:53 AM
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ahaha...very true about that road not taken. I must admit that's the obvious choice and is the center piece of this selection and my mouth watered at trying it but I like to do more esoteric things and the one I chose I've never read before so I figured I'd try it.
It would be interesting for the road not taken though to take it up with a theme A to represent one "road" then a theme B to represent a fork in the road and a new "road" however after the 2nd theme of B, the music would begin in the original key something that begins the same as theme A but instead it is a false reprise and suddenly shifts into a new tonality and key of C to show a last minute changing of mind and taking the new 'road not taken.' I thought that would be interesting to do that, and those are my thoughts for anyone picking that famous piece.
anyhoo, I haven't read those poems you mentioned yet but I'll check 'em out tomorrow they sound interesting.
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#1148524 - 12/24/05 03:12 AM
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Yeah, the whole group's interesting, but I'm trying to stay away from the longer ones. And the "Road Not Taken" is a centerpiece of all poetry, not just of that selection. It's one of the masterpieces of all-time. 
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#1148525 - 12/24/05 03:28 AM
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indeed.
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#1148526 - 12/24/05 06:45 AM
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As for reservations that may arise because from a perceived lack of compositional ability, my main reason for starting this project is to create an environment whereby composers may grow through interaction with other composers. Skill-level is not a factor in this project, there will be some more advanced and others less advanced than you. In order to become better in composition, one needs to compose, and in doing it here I'm hoping you'll receive lots of support and constructive feedback so that composing will come easier and be of better quality.
Thanks for your support and get crackin!
OK, since it's fine for me to be not very good, I'll bite. I've plenty ideas, I've just never finished anything. Maybe now's a good time to change that. For creating scores I have both finale notepad and a trial version of noteworthy composer. Noteworthy allows you to export as midi, which is useful. However, the trial version limits the number of saves (although there are ways to circumvent that) and the visual score itself can't be exported in any other form but the proprietary file format. However there is a free noteworthy player (a paltry 522KB) at http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/player/ that can play back both noteworthy and midi files while showing notation. From the site: If you are a registered user of NoteWorthy Composer and would like your friends and family to be able to play back your songs and see the notation, NoteWorthy Player is the solution. You can give them NoteWorthy Player or they can download it (it is freeware), then send them your songs and they can see and hear the songs.
You can also use NoteWorthy Player as your MIDI player. It will play back *.mid files and show notation and lyrics (if present) for the song.
However, the player doesn't work on files created with the trial version (which I have)though it will convert midi to notation (with idiosyncracies such as choosing Gb when F# makes more sense). Anyway, I might use noteworthy since I'm most familiar with it. If I do, the player is one free option for converting the midi to some kind of score. Or, you could download the trial version of the composer as well. Now to choose a poem. I hope everyone who has chosen already created the thread to claim it.
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#1148527 - 12/24/05 08:37 AM
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I use noteworthy too, PM me and I might be able to help you make it more useful *wink*
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#1148528 - 12/24/05 04:35 PM
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Registered: 12/17/05
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So here's the story with who's taken what and which poems are still available:  The Road Not Taken [/b] -Arjen Christmas Trees  An Old Man’s Winter Night [/b] -Requiem Aeternam  A Patch of Old Snow [/b] -sarabande In the Home Stretch The Telephone  Meeting and Passing [/b] -signa Hyla Brook  The Oven Bird [/b] -Fiesta Figaro  Bond and Free [/b] -Allazart Birches Pea Brush Putting in the Seed A Time to Talk The Cow in Apple Time An Encounter Range-finding  The Hill Wife [/b] -kcoul058 (House Fear), cyip086 (The Impulse) The Bonfire A Girl’s Garden The Exposed Nest “Out, Out—” Brown’s Descent, or the Willy-nilly Slide The Gum-gatherer The Line-gang The Vanishing Red Snow The Sound of the Trees
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#1148529 - 12/24/05 04:47 PM
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the road is indeed not yet taken LOL
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#1148530 - 12/25/05 02:10 AM
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Originally posted by Requiem Aeternam:  the road is indeed not yet taken LOL [/b] What an interesting statement if it is not taken at all. 
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#1148532 - 12/25/05 03:04 PM
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Registered: 12/27/04
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I'll be taking "House Fear" from "The Hill Wife". I looked at pretty well all of the poems in the cycle, and while IMHO Frost may not have the most animated imagery in his particular style of poetry, it still does this project enough justice to be suitable enough. I might have recommended some French poetry that had been translated to English, but since enough people have picked (and I found one I like too! and i'm really picky!  ), this seems like it should work great! I'll start my thread right away... expect my piece to be pretty morose.. just read the poem!
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#1148536 - 12/28/05 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by Fiesta Figaro:  Hey guys, I just wanted to clear up some things about the reviewing process. While it is preferred, you don't necessarily have to have show new material every week on your thread. There is no "due date" for your composition, and while it would be nice to "hear" progress on your work, any sort of conceptual progress will suffice. If at all possible, try to update us at least once a week on the progress of your piece. [/b] Yes, I'd arrived at this conclusion myself. If I keep posting updates it will diminish the impact of the final piece. I know, as the composer one sometimes gets tired of his work and I wouldn't want my potential listeners to feel the same way before I'm even done. So, I may post comments in my thread but won't post new music clips until it is finished to my satisfaction.
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