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#1150763 - 06/04/08 01:29 PM
My First Composed Piece: (Not yet completed)
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Hey Forums, My name is Austin and I'm 14. I have been studying composition for the past couple months, and have started working on a piece. I posted the link to the PDF file, NOTE: The piece is not even closed to finished, it still needs lots of more expressions and such, (and lots of more notes  ). The piece is in C Melodic Minor, I didn't post the Finale music file because it doesn't even sound close to how it sounds on a Baby Grand Piano, so just play a couple notes to check it out, I will also keep posting my progress, as I progress in writing it. Thanks, please check it out and tell me what you think. Here is the Link to the PDF, Link to My First Piece_v_5
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Working On:
Prelude in C # minor by Rachmaninoff
Bouree in G minor by Bach (violin to piano transcription)
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Morning Mood: By Edvard Grieg
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#1150764 - 06/05/08 12:28 AM
Re: My First Composed Piece: (Not yet completed)
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Update 2 of my piece is up, more expressions, notes, and corrections, more to come, please play Update 3 is up, includes one more measure and space for a lower octave measure, corrections with key signature, and other minor edits, Critiques from Pianojerome and 8ude coming in update 4-6. Update 4 is up: Decided not to interfere with the jump-around chords, and to put a repeat, then have a small section with sixteenth notes coming soon.
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Working On:
Prelude in C # minor by Rachmaninoff
Bouree in G minor by Bach (violin to piano transcription)
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Morning Mood: By Edvard Grieg
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#1150765 - 06/05/08 12:51 AM
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First off, welcome to the forums. Glad to have someone willing to share their music.
Having looked at your piece, well - it needs some work... Some thoughts:
1) This looks like it should be in 6/8 time instead of 3/4. For the most part it is clearly 2 groups of 3 eighth notes, which implies you should use 6/8.
2) There really isn't much of any melody to speak of. You repeat a lot of c minor chords and arpeggios, and jump to IV and V (F and G), but I'm not getting any real melodic interest from this.
3) In measures 8-12, you are doubling lots of thirds (i.e. in the F major chord, you use the A twice). While there isn't anything out and out "wrong" about that, it is generally accepted that doubling the third leads to poor voice-leading and ends up sounding weaker than only having the third played once.
4) Also in measures 8-12, you have staccato articulations, yet have a pedal marking as well. Is this by design? Its not like it hasn't been done before, but what effect were you going for here?
5) Measure 13 looks to be rather awkward, jumping all those octaves in the RH.
6) Measures 14-16 are very awkwardly notated rythmically. The RH figures should not be grouped into one beam, but should be beamed more in line with the meter and utilizing ties.
7) I think you meant "Andante" instead of "Adante"
Please don't take this as me "dumping on" your piece, but these are objective criticisms that I think most people would agree with. Good for you that you had the guts to post your work. Keep at it and feel free to post updates.
Good luck.
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#1150766 - 06/05/08 12:58 AM
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Hey Austin, good job so far! One thing that I like is your rhythm: it's often tempting to group notes so that the strong beats line up with the main beats of the measure, i.e. 8th notes grouped in twos, with three groups in a 3/4 bar. But you've done it so that the second group in each measure comes between beats 2 and 3, which is very good. On the other hand, since you do that in every measure, it gives the piece a strong feeling of 2/4, with triplets on each beat. Even when you start with the 16th notes in mm. 8, that still feels to me somewhat like 2/4. That's not a bad thing -- just something to think about. Your chord progressions are all very clear, and you've done them correctly, which is good. I would caution you, though, to make it a little more varied, and also to change the chords more frequently. The beginning, for example, is very nice, but it seems very repetitive because the first 7 bars are all one chord, except for the nice A-natural in m. 5. How about if you were to make the 2nd measure a different chord, like VI or V? Same thing with m. 4, so it would be like this: measure 1: c minor chord measure 2: something else measure 3: c minor chord measure 4: something else that is different from m. 2 measure 5: c minor chord with A-natural in the left hand measures 6 and 7: c minor That would still keep you rooted in c minor, but it would offer more variety. Along those lines, you do a very good job with the next phrase beginning at m. 8 -- 2 chords per measure is good! You had a good idea to repeat those two measures twice -- it works as is, so you don't have to change it, but another idea that you might consider is to put a different chord for the second half of measure 10: i.e. not IV or I or V. Actually, that might be a good place to bring back the A-natural that you had in the beginning, for a chord like A-natural C Eb G. The reason I would suggest doing something different just for the end of that one measure is because it plays with the listener's expectations, which is often what makes music interesting to listen to. Measures 8 and 9 are catchy, and the listener will remember them: when you start measure 10, the listener will recognize it and think you are just repeating. But you can surprise the listener by keeping the same rhythm and form while throwing a kink into the harmony. But as I said, it works as is, so that's just an extra idea you might consider. Starting at measure 13, you have a great idea to play around with register/octaves. Music is often very boring if it stays in the same octave the whole time, so I congratulate you for expanding out to three octaves in just one measure. One word of caution, though: although it is good that you stretch to all 3 octaves in that first measure, you do the same thing in every measure after that! So while that first measure really opens things up and breaks the range that you were in before, when you take that whole phrase (measures 13-16) as a whole, that whole phrase itself stays not only within that same range, but every measure has notes at the top, middle, and bottom. One idea that you might consider is to leave the first measure (13) as is, to open up the octaves; then beginning with the next measure, you start at the bottom octave in the right hand, and gradually move upward so that by the time you get to measure 16, it is at the top octave. You could think of it like this: measure 13: as is, opening up all 3 octaves measure 14: stay in the lower octave measure 15: stay in the middle octave measure 16: stay in the top octave, or start at the top and then quickly move back down. Or you could do it differently, but the idea is to *use* the different octaves as a way of making the music move in a certain direction: gradually getting higher, or gradually getting lower, or getting higher and then getting lower again, etc... but be careful not to let it sit still. Keep up the good work -- I hope this all is helpful for you, and not overwhelming! You've done a good job so far.
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#1150767 - 06/05/08 11:51 AM
Re: My First Composed Piece: (Not yet completed)
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Registered: 06/02/08
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To 8ude: 1). As for the grouping of notes Finale groups them, if that is 6/8 grouping then a might change it to 6/8 and double the tempo. 2).Yes so far the melody has not exactly come in yet, this piece does tend to have a lot of chords with no strong harmonic and melodic distinction (kind of bending rules ), but in later parts there definitely will be a distinctive harmony and melody. 3). Repeating thirds, that part of the piece is like an intro, so the repeting thirds imply that such as in Mendelssohn's Wedding March (if you have ever seen the sheet music), but I do know what you mean. 4). Yes, I meant that, it means play staccato while holding the pedal, play it, and you'll see how it sounds. 5). No doubt it is awkward but it does give a good sound to that measure. 6). I 100% know that it is a very awkward rhythm, with the dotted eighth. As far as beaming goes Finale does it automatically, does anyone know a way to turn off auto beaming? 7). Did mean Andante, typo mistake I cannot thank you enough for replying, thank you! 
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-Austin
Working On:
Prelude in C # minor by Rachmaninoff
Bouree in G minor by Bach (violin to piano transcription)
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Morning Mood: By Edvard Grieg
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#1150768 - 06/05/08 12:02 PM
Re: My First Composed Piece: (Not yet completed)
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Registered: 06/02/08
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To Pianojerome 1). Thanks for the info on 2/4 time 2). Yes 8ude said that also about the chords, those chords are kind of like an intro as in Mendelssohn's Wedding March where he repeats the chords in the intro. 3). My piano teacher mentioned this, and I have been playing around with it, still trying to figure out something that sounds good. Thanks 4). Mhmm 8dude said that as well, I'll try something different at the end. 5). I know, do you think I should put a lower octave measure in between all of the high octave ones? Maybe some low octave chords? I'll check it out. Thank You for replying I really appreciate it
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Working On:
Prelude in C # minor by Rachmaninoff
Bouree in G minor by Bach (violin to piano transcription)
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Morning Mood: By Edvard Grieg
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#1150769 - 06/05/08 03:44 PM
Re: My First Composed Piece: (Not yet completed)
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Loc: Huntington Beach
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Hey if anyone can tell me if they think
1). the notes are to cramped together
2). If the repeat should start again from the beginning, or from where I have it now, since the beginning is kind of like a one-time intro.
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-Austin
Working On:
Prelude in C # minor by Rachmaninoff
Bouree in G minor by Bach (violin to piano transcription)
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Morning Mood: By Edvard Grieg
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#1150770 - 06/05/08 06:33 PM
Re: My First Composed Piece: (Not yet completed)
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Registered: 05/06/08
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Austin,
I am also a beginning composer so despite the 51 years that separates us in age I have a feeling for both the problems of a beginning composer and some of the suggestions given by others in this thread. I came to composition from a totally unrelated field (aviation), and I had very little musical training and background. One of the things that I have struggled with the most is thematic development, and I think thematic development would help your composition.
It is really easy to get caught up in the music theory of chord progressions especially when writing a piece for piano where chords are so easy to play and lose sight the other elements of a successful composition such as the development of a thematic motive, rhythmic variation, harmonic motion, etc. Your opening reminds me of two entirely different pieces that use arpeggiated chords, Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata and Bach’s Prelude No. 1 from the first volume of the Well-Tempered Clavier.
Perhaps it would be a useful exercise to listen to a recording of those pieces with the respective score in hand. In Bach’s piece, he never changes rhythm until the last two measures and yet the piece is always moving forward. How does he accomplish that? The Moonlight opens with triplet arpeggiated chords but Beethoven quickly moves away from the tonic and starts playing with or developing the triplet motive. Also notice that he weaves a recognizable melody into the music.
Now look at and listen to your own composition, and brain storm ideas of how to incorporate some of the same techniques as Bach and/or Beethoven did. I’m not suggesting that it is either a competition between you and those composers or that you should copy them but in a different key, rhythm, etc. Rather evaluate your composition in light of what you learn from looking at B&B and try to make your piece even better.
If you are anything like me, I can’t keep all of those balls in the air at the same time, but I can work on one at a time, and you might want to consider the same sort of approach. If you listen and talk to composers, you will quickly find that every composer has his own methodology for writing music, but what works best for me is to start with a motive idea and develop that into a melody line before I start flushing out the harmony with chords. I’m sure that you know this, but it bears repeating. If you want to look at the clearest and perhaps best example of thematic development in classical music, listen to the first movement of Beethoven’s 5th symphony with the full orchestral score in hand. Figure out what he did and how he did it. Another interesting exercise would be to dig into a piece of music you like to see how many concurant melody lines you can find.
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#1150771 - 06/05/08 07:50 PM
Re: My First Composed Piece: (Not yet completed)
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Registered: 06/02/08
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Thank you for the advice Bob, I really appreciate it.
Just asking, has anyone played my piece yet???
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-Austin
Working On:
Prelude in C # minor by Rachmaninoff
Bouree in G minor by Bach (violin to piano transcription)
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Morning Mood: By Edvard Grieg
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#1150772 - 06/05/08 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by Austin:  Just asking, has anyone played my piece yet??? [/b] Kinda . . . I imported the PDF file into Sibelius and played it that way. Listening to it I found I agreed with some of the other commenters, my suggestions were based on what I heard. BTW if you use the Garritan orchestral sounds included with Finale and modify the sound space, you will probably be much happier with your playback.
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#1150773 - 06/06/08 12:50 AM
Re: My First Composed Piece: (Not yet completed)
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One suggestion for you, it might help to leave the links to previous versions up so that we can see progress and compare between them. As it is, I have already forgotten most of what was in your first post, so I can't really tell what you changed.
Some more comments, though...
1) The first two measures - I would have the LH sustain its notes through both measures. You're holding it with pedal anyway.
2) Your opening idea consists of 7 measures. I'm not sure I like or dislike this. If I were writing music in this style, I'd probably go with an 8 measure "intro" as it would feel a little more balanced. As it is, the 7-measure intro seems a little off. But it's not necessarily bad - just something to think about.
3) I realize its a preference thing, but I still do not like the doubled thirds you have - I would use octaves in the LH and let the RH carry the third tone.
4) Ms 13 - I still maintain that it is awkward. At the tempo you have it is definitely playable, but if this were at speed, it would become unwieldy quickly. Also, the effect I think you are trying for is a big crescendo - why not change the LH from repeated octaves to a tremolo? That might help achieve that effect better?
5) Measures 14 and onward - Please please please re-notate the RH. The way you have it, it is very difficult to follow the rhythms. In this style of music, it is very rare to see a rhythmic pattern notated this way. It would be much more appropriate to notate it as:
dotted-8th 16th-tie-16th 8th 16th-tie-16th dotted-8th
6) The measure for the 2nd ending contains an interval that is impossible (with the exception of Rachmaninoff, perhaps), almost two full octaves.
7) As I mentioned in my previous post, there really isn't much of any melody or form overall. It seems like you're taking the c minor tonality and just vamping around.
Now, on this last point, I realize we all have to start somewhere and I absolutely commend you for your progress so far, as well as your willingness to share your work and accept feedback. However, your goal as a composer should be to give the world something they haven't heard already. That's a mighty tall order - some might say there's "nothing new under the sun" and that you can't really say something that hasn't already been said. Be that as it may, you really need to make an effort to reach out to your listener and make a connection and give them something interesting. To be painfully honest, what you have done here is simply not interesting. Anyone can take a c-minor chord and riff around with it.
What I feel this piece needs is direction - I get the impression that you're not quite sure what you want to do with it. My suggestion to you would be to concentrate on melody. Don't worry about harmonies or making fancy piano figurations or articulations or any of the other myriad things that go into composition - just come up with a solid melody. It can be simple - as with so many things in life, simple is usually better. Once you have a melody, then think of how you want to treat it formally. Do you want to do it like a theme-and-variation? A rondo? Sonata-allegro? Once you have some of these things in mind, then go about writing in the harmonies and everything else.
Another suggestion is to not invest too much effort in this particular piece, but treat it as an exercise. Not everything will end up being a finished masterpiece - but take what you learn from this piece and then apply it to your next one. Eventually, you'll see some real growth in your work.
Again, please don't take this feedback the wrong way. I'm only posting what I honestly feel and am trying to give suggestions that you might find useful. If I were in your shoes, I would much prefer people to give me honest, constructive feedback (even if it's negative) than just to be a "yes-man" and say "I liked it". That's how we learn.
And to answer your other question, I have not played this - it's simple enough that I can hear it in my head from looking at the PDF. If I see some interesting developments I might print it up and give it a play.
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What you are is an accident of birth. What I am, I am through my own efforts. There have been a thousand princes and there will be a thousand more. There is one Beethoven.
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#1150774 - 06/06/08 08:06 AM
Re: My First Composed Piece: (Not yet completed)
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Austin,
I sat down this morning and played the piece through several times. There are some awkward passages that could be worked out by playing through them some more. I found the chord progression in m 15 a little strange -- the accidental B in the first and fourth chord in the right hand works the first time but having returned to a flat for the second doesn't seem to work on the fourth -- maybe it's my ear since I'm not big on dissonance.
I'm not sure how Finale works, but in most notation programs I've tried you could unbar the notes and then select the ones you wanted to rebar.
The chord/rhythm pattern in mm 8-11 are strongly evocative of some of the movie compositions in the 50s -- good pulse that (in the movies) was intended to indicate action or tension (the development would indicate which). In this case you seem to resolve it with the single chord in m 12 and that doesn't quite satisfy, especially when you move back into an alternate pattern in the next 6 measures.
Measure 13 really doesn't work for me. It seems to be a bridge to nowhere; it doesn't set up what follows and doesn't really connect what preceded. Leaping octaves of this sort are awkward to play, and in this case don't really do anything except open the next octave. I might have considered something similar to the opening five measures, but moved up into that higher octave, especially if it were done crossing the octave. Perhaps a C-Eb-C pattern. It's one thing to surprise the listener, but that doesn't surprise so much as it leaves the passage rather flat (at least, in my opinion).
I think it's a good start!
Ed
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#1150775 - 06/06/08 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by epf: I'm not sure how Finale works, but in most notation programs I've tried you could unbar the notes and then select the ones you wanted to rebar. [/b] Using speedy entry, move the cursor over the note you want to un-bar and press "/". Using that plus some tied 16ths like I recommended above will help to rebar this and make it clearer.
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#1150776 - 06/06/08 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by photowriters: Originally posted by Austin: Just asking, has anyone played my piece yet??? [/b] Kinda . . . BTW if you use the Garritan orchestral sounds included with Finale and modify the sound space, you will probably be much happier with your playback. [/b] How do you do that? Thanks
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-Austin
Working On:
Prelude in C # minor by Rachmaninoff
Bouree in G minor by Bach (violin to piano transcription)
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Morning Mood: By Edvard Grieg
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#1150777 - 06/06/08 06:16 PM
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Registered: 06/02/08
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Loc: Huntington Beach
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To EPF:
Absorbed your thoughts,
Yes, I might try something different in measure 13 like you said, seems like a good though about chords in a higher octave. Thanks
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-Austin
Working On:
Prelude in C # minor by Rachmaninoff
Bouree in G minor by Bach (violin to piano transcription)
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Morning Mood: By Edvard Grieg
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#1150778 - 06/06/08 06:18 PM
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Registered: 06/02/08
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Just a quick note: Please do not make any comments about the piece not having a melody, what is written so far is not meant to have a melody yet, it is just a chord-like section. Kind of a different style I know . The melody will be pronounced right after the last measure I have written.
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Working On:
Prelude in C # minor by Rachmaninoff
Bouree in G minor by Bach (violin to piano transcription)
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Morning Mood: By Edvard Grieg
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#1150779 - 06/06/08 06:44 PM
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Registered: 06/02/08
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Originally posted by 8ude: One suggestion for you, it might help to leave the links to previous versions up so that we can see progress and compare between them. As it is, I have already forgotten most of what was in your first post, so I can't really tell what you changed. Some more comments, though... 1) The first two measures - I would have the LH sustain its notes through both measures. You're holding it with pedal anyway. 2) Your opening idea consists of 7 measures. I'm not sure I like or dislike this. If I were writing music in this style, I'd probably go with an 8 measure "intro" as it would feel a little more balanced. As it is, the 7-measure intro seems a little off. But it's not necessarily bad - just something to think about. 3) I realize its a preference thing, but I still do not like the doubled thirds you have - I would use octaves in the LH and let the RH carry the third tone. 4) Ms 13 - I still maintain that it is awkward. At the tempo you have it is definitely playable, but if this were at speed, it would become unwieldy quickly. Also, the effect I think you are trying for is a big crescendo - why not change the LH from repeated octaves to a tremolo? That might help achieve that effect better? 5) Measures 14 and onward - Please please please re-notate the RH. The way you have it, it is very difficult to follow the rhythms. In this style of music, it is very rare to see a rhythmic pattern notated this way. It would be much more appropriate to notate it as: dotted-8th 16th-tie-16th 8th 16th-tie-16th dotted-8th 6) The measure for the 2nd ending contains an interval that is impossible (with the exception of Rachmaninoff, perhaps), almost two full octaves. 7) As I mentioned in my previous post, there really isn't much of any melody or form overall. It seems like you're taking the c minor tonality and just vamping around. Now, on this last point, I realize we all have to start somewhere and I absolutely commend you for your progress so far, as well as your willingness to share your work and accept feedback. However, your goal as a composer should be to give the world something they haven't heard already. That's a mighty tall order - some might say there's "nothing new under the sun" and that you can't really say something that hasn't already been said. Be that as it may, you really need to make an effort to reach out to your listener and make a connection and give them something interesting. To be painfully honest, what you have done here is simply not interesting. Anyone can take a c-minor chord and riff around with it. What I feel this piece needs is direction - I get the impression that you're not quite sure what you want to do with it. My suggestion to you would be to concentrate on melody. Don't worry about harmonies or making fancy piano figurations or articulations or any of the other myriad things that go into composition - just come up with a solid melody. It can be simple - as with so many things in life, simple is usually better. Once you have a melody, then think of how you want to treat it formally. Do you want to do it like a theme-and-variation? A rondo? Sonata-allegro? Once you have some of these things in mind, then go about writing in the harmonies and everything else. Another suggestion is to not invest too much effort in this particular piece, but treat it as an exercise. Not everything will end up being a finished masterpiece - but take what you learn from this piece and then apply it to your next one. Eventually, you'll see some real growth in your work. Again, please don't take this feedback the wrong way. I'm only posting what I honestly feel and am trying to give suggestions that you might find useful. If I were in your shoes, I would much prefer people to give me honest, constructive feedback (even if it's negative) than just to be a "yes-man" and say "I liked it". That's how we learn. And to answer your other question, I have not played this - it's simple enough that I can hear it in my head from looking at the PDF. If I see some interesting developments I might print it up and give it a play. [/b] 1). In my second post of this topic, I say the changes I make to every version 2). Have thought about it 3). It is also a preference thing for me to I played it yesterday and have to admit I really like it better with an two c's in the left hand much better, (before I posted that is how I originally had it) 4). Am probably going to change measure 13 to some higher octave chords, to prepare for the measure to come, check out my third to last post (or fourth) 5). Yes going to do that. 6). Haha, that is a mistake it is supposed to be D to D not D to B or whatever I put. 7). Check out my second to last post. I know what you mean, even though the chords and their order might be distinct, the idea of it isn't, which is what I will have to learn how to do with time, and for Sonata, rondo, and such I am definitely not advanced enough to classify, but will be with time. Not going to delete what i have so far, but will had a melody in the second part, and I recommend you play it once I put in some melody and re notate, it sounds very good, it sounds very good but definitely, not something no one has heard before. Thank you a lot for all of your advice, my piano teacher definitely did not tell me all of this. (she probably thought a 14 year old couldn't handle it, haha, so thanks.) Oh yeah, and yes I know there are a lot of chords so far, this is just the introduction to the piece. And know I am not vamping around  each chord was hand picked by me while sitting at a piano. Don't get the idea I'm clicking random chords in Finale, when you play it you will know I am not Thanks Again, on Wednesday I come with all of this knowledge to my piano teacher, and she'll be like  !! -Austin
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Working On:
Prelude in C # minor by Rachmaninoff
Bouree in G minor by Bach (violin to piano transcription)
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#1150780 - 06/06/08 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by epf: Austin, . I found the chord progression in m 15 a little strange -- the accidental B in the first and fourth chord in the right hand works the first time but having returned to a flat for the second doesn't seem to work on the fourth -- maybe it's my ear since I'm not big on dissonance. Ed [/b] The accidental B goes with the C Melodic Minor specifications. The piece is in C melodic minor
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#1150781 - 06/07/08 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by Austin: The accidental B goes with the C Melodic Minor specifications. The piece is in C melodic minor [/b] It was not the first accidental that I was questioning, it was the second one after the return to a Bb that seemed jarring. Ed
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#1150782 - 06/07/08 01:40 AM
Re: My First Composed Piece: (Not yet completed)
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Originally posted by epf: Originally posted by Austin: The accidental B goes with the C Melodic Minor specifications. The piece is in C melodic minor [/b] It was not the first accidental that I was questioning, it was the second one after the return to a Bb that seemed jarring. Ed [/b]  your right, that should NOT be there, thank you for catching that, haha.
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