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#1153792 - 10/18/08 03:47 PM Piano concerto with orchestra d-minor
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Hi friends, I started today with one new piece, Piano concerto with orchestra d-minor, of course it isnt finished yet, it takes time but the main thema is ready and I would like to present it to know what do you think about it and if you like it.

Piano concerto with orchestra d-minor MP3:
www.4shared.com/file/67450908/49cba7/Piano-concerto-d-minor-thema.html

!Update!: continuation of the 1st movement:
http://www.4shared.com/file/71943887/65dc962d/Piano-concerto-d-minor-continuation.html

Peter
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#1153793 - 10/19/08 09:34 PM Re: Piano concerto with orchestra d-minor
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very nice =) what program did you use?
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#1153794 - 10/20/08 11:08 AM Re: Piano concerto with orchestra d-minor
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I started to write something then remembered some of the discussions we've had in the past and thought better of it.

I will say the most interesting part for me was the very major key beginning and the way it leads into the very minor key theme. You could expand on that and bring it back a few times to have some light shine through the gloom.

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#1153795 - 10/25/08 06:12 AM Re: Piano concerto with orchestra d-minor
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Thanks Skorpius and Steve!
Steve you mean the very first A-Major into d-minor combination? I plan a second theme in Major (A or F) to contrast with the d-minor-theme, so that not the whole pieces will be in gloomy mood :-)
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#1153796 - 10/25/08 07:05 PM Re: Piano concerto with orchestra d-minor
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Ooh, it gave me chills.

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#1153797 - 10/29/08 03:53 PM Re: Piano concerto with orchestra d-minor
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Well, whether or not I like it doesn't really matter... I think it is more important for composers to think "is it effective?" You'll always find someone to like or dislike something, and so opinions aren't very valuable when trying to write something. That's just my thought, anyway.

I think you have a great start! I'd like to possibly hear a different chord at the end so that it will lead us onto the next theme or idea. Right now, with the same chords, it sounds as though it will automatically lead you back to the original idea or something very similar to it, and I think contrast would be a good thing to add. \:\)
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#1153798 - 10/29/08 04:07 PM Re: Piano concerto with orchestra d-minor
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I'm reserving judgment until I hear a completed movement.

A lot of people post promising beginnings and then disappear.

I'd be very interested in a score of the final version of this concerto movement. Until then, I find it difficult to care.
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#1153799 - 10/29/08 10:58 PM Re: Piano concerto with orchestra d-minor
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I have to agree with Kreisler. That was my first instinct when I saw this thread, but I figured I'd hold judgment for the moment.

I don't mind looking at fragments if there is a specific question being asked. But as Kreisler astutely pointed out, it seems like there's lots of "beginnings" that are posted. I would much rather evaluated a completed work, even if it may not be the final polished version, than a fragment. After all, its not really the fragment that's important - but what you do with it.

Post again when you're done - then I'd like to see it.
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#1153800 - 10/30/08 09:29 AM Re: Piano concerto with orchestra d-minor
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Well, composing is a process, and sometimes we need encouragement along the way. A piece isn't a piece until it's done though, isn't it?
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#1153801 - 10/30/08 10:01 AM Re: Piano concerto with orchestra d-minor
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I'm encouraging completion of the work. \:D
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#1153802 - 11/17/08 07:29 PM Re: Piano concerto with orchestra d-minor
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Hi friends, thanks for your comments, I post the next continuation concept of the piano concerto, its still not ready so the end is just returning to root chord I. This concept version is about 7 minutes long.

MP3: http://www.4shared.com/file/71943887/65dc962d/Piano-concerto-d-minor-continuation.html

Peter
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#1153803 - 11/18/08 11:47 AM Re: Piano concerto with orchestra d-minor
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Hi Peter,

I've listened once to this longer version. I listened to the short original version when you posted it a few weeks ago. In my opinion your writing becomes much more interesting when you start the development section. You spend far too much time on the exposition (I believe you repeat your theme 4 or 5 times). If it was my piece I might ditch the exsposition in its entirety. I'd at least cut it down to two versions of the theme, one without then one with piano, then get on to the more interesting stuff.

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#1153804 - 11/21/08 06:00 PM Re: Piano concerto with orchestra d-minor
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Thanks Steve for your comment,
maybe I will shorten or at least change the piano exposition after the orchestral beginning in the final version.
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