Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps and more.

Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
Who's Online
99 registered (anotherscott, AndrewJCW, accordeur, ABC Vermonter, Anne'sson, augustm, 26 invisible), 1248 Guests and 9 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#1161659 - 03/12/09 04:17 AM anyone find it odd yamaha put their best piano sam
leon2245 Offline
Full Member

Registered: 01/30/09
Posts: 87
Of the yamaha portable keyboards & D.P.'s, not consoles, I've been wondering why the s90es piano tone would be so great, being a synth/hybrid not evne strictly within the D.P. line, but it's no wonder. For instance vs. even their cp-300's 40mb sample- of what I.D.K.- but why save the s90es' 53mb S700 sample exclusively for a synth & not even in the top of the line D.P. with graded hammer action etc? No wonder the s90es is so popular, even if to serve as a D.P. only, might be worth it.

Not that the sample size directly determines what sounds good, but it at least should have sopme relationship to things like how long a note rings before it loops into a dead monotone. I can't even FIND sample source/size information on my p-140 (P-120 was 22mb), but just considering the upcoming p-155 with four layers which should be a good increase in itself, but I'd be surprised if yamaha allowed it to have as nice a piano as their top of the line CP models, overall- forget about the s90es (unless the next version of that is on the way too)!

Just something I found odd, seeing that "53mb s700" in the product descriptions for their top of the line synth, but on specs pages of their (strictly) digital pianos keeping such info on the D.L. I guess they have their reasons, not necessarily because- but at least we can buy it in module form!

(ads) Sweetwater / Roland
Yamaha Keyboards for Performance and Composition

Click Here

#1162242 - 03/13/09 09:57 AM Re: anyone find it odd yamaha put their best piano sam [Re: leon2245]
btcomm Offline
Full Member

Registered: 02/05/07
Posts: 284
Loc: California
I've always had the same thought too. One thing that was interesting was an email response I received many months ago from a Yamaha rep for portable keyboards regarding the YPG-635 and his saying that half of its total ROM was dedicated to its Grand Piano sound. I was always curious how much "MB" were in this patch. It is strange that their seemingly best piano sound is in a synth.

#1163017 - 03/15/09 05:49 AM Re: anyone find it odd yamaha put their best piano sam [Re: btcomm]
kaanengin Offline
Full Member

Registered: 01/19/08
Posts: 33
I use the S700 sample set in my Motif ES all the time, although my samples are less than 20 mb, they are still awesome.
Anyway, to answer your question, I think the reason is obvious. Think of this way, who are using the S90? Pro musicians who play gigs or record albums. These people mostly use top of the line PA or sound system. On the other hand, who use cabinet style digital pianos? Most of them are young students, or amateur musicians, who mostly use the built in speakers on their pianos.
So, S90 users will appreciate a tiny bit of sound improvement, while most cabinet users will be more than happy with a decent sound.


Moderator:  Piano World 
the Forums & Piano World

Trying Something New with Search
(ad) Yamaha CP4 or CP40 Free Bag
Buy a CP4 or CP40 Get a Free Bag
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(ads) PD - WNG - MH
Ad (the Piano Store)
the Piano Store - Restored Steinway Pianos
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Specific techniques/tips for staying relaxed?
by cathryn999
23 minutes 32 seconds ago
Need Advice: Yamaha U3 too mellow
by woody4tarheels
Today at 10:18 PM
What Mozart is this?
by JoelW
Today at 09:50 PM
Steinway D Phillips Collection PianoCraft
by Keith D Kerman
Today at 08:01 PM
Trifonov's performance of Rach 3 reviewed in the NY Times
by pianoloverus
Today at 05:44 PM
What's Hot!!
Posting Pictures on the Forums
Forums Rules & Help
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
Forum Stats
81,564 Registered Members
44 Forums
168,616 Topics
2,470,255 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |

copyright 1997 - 2015 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission