Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

This custom search works much better than the built in one and allows searching older posts.
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
Who's Online
72 registered (barbaram, AndyP, beeboss, babybearyan, Albunea, 18 invisible), 928 Guests and 19 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#1172002 - 03/31/09 11:31 AM Another Kawai K-2 problem
ny111 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 03/18/09
Posts: 3
We just purchased Kawai K2 and found some problems when using the practice pedal. When the practice pedal is used alone, few keys are out of tune and there are weird echo sounds accompanying it. Also, when both practice and sustain pedals are used simultaneously, most keys seem to be out of tune.

We have contacted the dealer and the tuner referred to us told us that when both practice and sustain pedals are used at the same time, it is common for keys to be out of tune and hence, it is "normal."

Is this true? I played Kawai growing up and used both practice and sustain pedals often and have never encountered this problem.

Thank you.

Top
(ad 568) PTG Convention 2015 Denver
PTG Convention July 15 to 18 Denver
#1172010 - 03/31/09 11:42 AM Re: Another Kawai K-2 problem [Re: ny111]
BDB Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/07/03
Posts: 22471
Loc: Oakland
The practice pedal drops the moderator felt between the hammer and the strings. In effect, the moderator felt makes the hammer wider, often enough to hit a string of an adjacent note. That is what makes the out of tune effect. You can hear it more when the damper pedal is depressed, since then that adjacent note is not damped.
_________________________
Semipro Tech

Top
#1172027 - 03/31/09 12:18 PM Re: Another Kawai K-2 problem [Re: BDB]
rysowers Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Registered: 04/16/07
Posts: 2705
Loc: Olympia, WA
What I've done when this is a problem is to snip the practice mute into individual fingers of felt. This must be done carefully! I push the hammers up to the strings with the mute on and mark the edges of the hammer with a pencil so I know exactly where to cut. It works great.
_________________________
Ryan Sowers,
Pianova Piano Service
Olympia, WA
www.pianova.net

Top
#1172071 - 03/31/09 01:52 PM Re: Another Kawai K-2 problem [Re: rysowers]
BDB Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/07/03
Posts: 22471
Loc: Oakland
I would have suggested that, but this is a new piano, and I hesitate to recommend modifying it.
_________________________
Semipro Tech

Top
#1172361 - 04/01/09 12:20 AM Re: Another Kawai K-2 problem [Re: BDB]
KawaiDon Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 02/05/02
Posts: 1254
Loc: Orange County, CA
Adjusting the muffler rail for how much felt hangs below the hammers is also a simple way to minimize the felt slapping sound.

In some cases a little judicious realignment of the rail itself also helps, as if the felt hangs very close to the strings it will "slap" against the neighboring notes less.
_________________________
Don Mannino, MPA
Kawai America

Top

Moderator:  Piano World 
(ad) Yamaha CP4 Rebate
Yamaha CP4 Rebate
Shop our Store for Music Lovers!
PianoSupplies.com is Piano World's Online Store
Please visit our store today.
Composer Statuettes
(ads) PD - WNG - MH
PianoDisc
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
Ad (Seiler/Knabe)
Knabe Pianos
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Very interesting.....Lang Lang's story...
by rnaple
Today at 04:23 AM
Recently bought a Casio PX860! this is awesome!!!
by dandan19zs1
Today at 03:33 AM
Can you identify this baby grand?
by pevo
Today at 12:22 AM
Yamaha C7 with Player Piano system
by Cflux
Yesterday at 11:31 PM
Is it "Live" or is it.......
by piano_primo_1
Yesterday at 10:24 PM
What's Hot!!
New Forum for Selling Your Products or Services
--------------------
Historic Piano Documents
--------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
-------------------
PIANO BOOKS
Forum Stats
79,456 Registered Members
44 Forums
164,421 Topics
2,411,911 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
Sheet Music Plus (125)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2015 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission