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Hey Pianist Corner people. I just wondered: i have played for round about 6 months now and my teacher says im sooo good and keeps saying im a star pupil.. but i don't know if i have talent or is she just encouraging me? .. SO anyway i have played for six months,the first month was basically just learning rythm and tempo, second month was slightly more advanced pieces(back then) like winterwonderland, third month i learn gnossiene o.1 and same month i learn gymnopedie 1 and fourth month i learn gnossiene 3 ( in one week or so) and the fifth month i just practice details. then now i have learned.. umm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MtIZT_LShU (NOT ME!!) that one.. and im 15 years. I haven't played piano before.. am I "talented" or is that an ok learning speed.???
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If it is indeed true that you've only been playing for six months, you are indeed a VERY quick learner and very talented. Wow.
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Your teacher ought to be concerned about your right wrist. Why and how is it bothering you? When it hurts, something is wrong.
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I think your progress seems average for a person your age. I'm sure your teacher is commenting on your progress because she's being honest. I don't know many teachers who flatter a student who isn't doing what she's telling them to do! edited to add: OK, didn't see the video before (I thought you were saying that you were playing music *like* that, and not that that was in fact you playing). You shake your right wrist several times. There is no need to do that if your technique is good. There must be a lot of tension building up in your hands and wrists. I woudl ask your teacher about that. It is *not* normal under any circumstances to feel pain or fatigue while playing. If this happens your body is telling you something is wrong. Do *not* assume this is normal, or it may cause permanent injury. Please speak with your teacher about this as soon as possible to help resolve it.
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I would guess that you spend a lot of time at the piano. This means it is essential that you sort out your technique to avoid ending up with an injury. You sit very close to the keyboard and your elbows are tucked in tight which restricts your movement. Watch carefully as you play those chords. There is no flexibility in your wrists which is obviously causeing you pain (the shaking!). Also on the fast RH passages your little finger pokes up in the air showing signs of tension. It could even be down to the way you tilt your head forward. I bet you get neck and back pain right?
You no doubt have talent. Please get these issues sorted out. You owe it to yourself.
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NO NO NO NO it is not me playing, i can play it, i don't shake my wrist, he seems older than me.. anyway i dont feel pain when playing that
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Your teacher ought to be concerned about your right wrist. Why and how is it bothering you? When it hurts, something is wrong. its not me.. ... I dont feel that pain at all
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Well! umm ... probably him but.. me no, i have learned how to sit properly... you would think after six months you atleast know how to sit...i have had back problems before , it was the first 2 months... but that was because i posture was all wrong
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Are you playing games with us here in the Piano Teacher's Forum?
Is that video you or not?
If not, then the comments were earned by the piano player we saw.
I agree with others, his playing is problematic, teachers watch out for your well being, and that right wrist (what else did we not see) is going to be a problem along with other discomfort.
Did I like the piece? No, but I'm a different age group, and someone who doesn't like repetition in what I listen to. His playing is loud and on - just like the tv set is on and loud - no volume control.
Any issues about your playing really need to be between you and your teacher if she or he is seeing you each week. Handson with a teaching professional will get you where you want to go.
Most of the tutorials on youtube that everyone raves about are very poorly done. If the videos come from a reputable teaching source of an accomplished and experienced teacher that is another thing, someone you can trust. Just because there are composers out there playing their own stuff does not mean they are well school in piano techniques or for that fact, can read music.
Do you want to be authentically good? Or is imitatively good enough for you? You have a path to choose, don't you!
The OP changed his post after I posted mine - he added (not me!)
Then what is the point if that is not you?
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To be fair, the OP did write that it wasn't him playing (Highlight in red not in original quote)
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Hmmmmm, I think that Oblacone went back and edited the original post. That doesn't really matter though.
It's impossible to comment on progress without seeing you play. Anyone who could give a good, musical performance of the Satie after three months would be very impressive. I dare say it's practically impossible but there we go. On the other hand you could learn a bit of it by rote and memory and hack through it.
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Obviously that was confusing in the OP. I wasn't sure and even went back to edit my post becuase of it. It is hard to tell if you are talented or not without actually hearing you play. If you aren't talented, what then? Will you love music any less? Sometimes we like to label ourselves, but hat is so dangerous. At any given moment there will always be someone better at piano than you and someone worse in the world. Why not enjoy it for the pleasure it gives you and hopefully others who listen to you, and leave it at that? Are *you* happy with your progress? The real test as to your dedication and ability will be if you are still going strong year after year. Piano is something that takes years, and many of us study it for a lifetime, still learning every step of the way. Enjoy the process, because it can be as long or as short as you want to make it.
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I have seen the OP's edited post and realise that the youtube clip is not him/her. That aside, Oblacone, I think you are doing very well and should congratulate yourself with your aptitude and dedication for music! Keep it up! PS: a teacher saying a student is their 'star pupil' is a huge statement and I would imagine and hope, not one easily thrown around by your teacher. Enjoy the encouragement!
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PS: a teacher saying a student is their 'star pupil' is a huge statement and I would imagine and hope, not one easily thrown around by your teacher. Enjoy the encouragement! Actually, I had a flashback this morning. For the first 8 - 12 months or so, my teacher was constantly pleased and enthusiastic and secretly I wondered whether he was just doing an "encouraging" routine, if this was real. Then I suffered an injury and could no longer play well for a while. He did not DIScourage me, of course, but I learned that he only said something was good if it really was good. I am wondering if the OP might have been wondering, like I did back then. It's like, "Is this teacher saying good things in order to keep up my enthusiasm - or could I possibly really be doing well?" You yourself can't know since you only know your own playing and have nothing to compare it with. There's the added factor that you will hear what is still lacking, without knowing that this is normal and is actually progress. That is when you look for the feedback of other people - sort of "Is this real?"
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I would imagine, Keystring, that this has been very much the motivation for the OP posting this thread.
Not having a scale by which to measure oneself and only adhering to the opinion of one person (being one's own teacher), it is understandable that one might question the 'gushing' of one's teacher in regard to one's talents.
However, I do feel the OP is doing exceptionally well in their pianistic endeavors, with regards to repertoire and ability, after only 6 months of lessons from someone who is 15 yrs of age.
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That is why I posted, Lotuscrystal. Some teachers may have had the impression that the OP was bragging or looking for praise (which may or may not be true). In my first year of lessons I was indeed doing exceptionally well but only know it in retrospect. I was seriously worried that I was being taken for a ride and not being corrected or that it should be harder. Now I know that adept teaching can slip in the right thing so subtly that you don't know you've been taught because it seems so "natural".
On that thought I'm off on a tangent. Sometimes I read threads where a student is doing exceedingly well after 1 or 2 years of lessons. The teacher may appear to "not be doing much". Is it a result of the student's talent, or a combination of superb teaching and talent? But at this point - so it often goes - the parent wants to pull the child out and get a "good teacher" since such talent should not be wasted on the present teacher (who might have gotten the child there). This always worries me a bit.
Years ago I tutored a young teen who came in with serious reading and writing problems and was labeled learning disabled. I found some underlying causes and she went from gr.2 to gr.6 reading level in a few months. She started to love to read, and write in a creative playful manner that took the feeling of burden from such activities. At this point her mother became anxious because learning must be a chore and unpleasant. The girl could not really be learning anymore. She tried to force me to assign a boring task she herself had been given in the old country. When I refused, the student was pulled out and placed in a "learning centre" where she filled in workbooks every week. Since it was an unpleasant chore, parent was satisfied that her daughter was "learning" again. When it was effortless, it could not be learning.
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A good way to get a gauge of one's ability is at the studio recitals. Does your teacher hold these, or group lessons? If so, after hearing the different levels of playing you can ask students how long they've studied for. This gives you an idea of where you fit in, at least in your teacher's studio.
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I do wonder if the OP is straight out of that story about the three billy goats gruff. (for those that aren't familiar, two of the goats featured in the title meet a nasty end when they get tossed into the river by a troll). However I've just spent an hour practicing all 36 keys played over 4 octaves in 10ths and trying to master trills in Hannon played in Bmajor, so crossing the bridge to get to the green grass on the other side comes as very welcome relief. Gnossieme 3 is an ABRSM grade 6 peice, mortals usually tackle that one after 6 years of playing - ergo yes you are learing 12 times quicker than the rest of us, especially since it only took you a week to learn. (although it didn't take Les Dawson long to learn it either -if you dont get that, look him up on Wikipedia, the entry's worth the read) So "Well done Oblacone"- do you want me to pm you a medal or something? But what will really set you apart from the rest of the world is if stick at it and come back in 6 or 10 years to post a video of yourself on you tube - that really is of you playing this time - then we can all truly marvel. The world is full of talented people who show great promise at things and then dont stick at it, prefering to move onto the next 9 day wonder - which is what keeps the music industry and divorce lawyers in business. Good luck PS I really would n't waste time on Gnossieme 3. I think Eric had eaten an omlette made from the wrong sort of mushrooms when he wrote that. In my edition they've forgotten to put in the bar markings and is the instruction "open your mind" a neurosurgical directive? I cant play it anyway because Mrs W refuses to throw a rug over the piano on the last line where eric tells us to "muffle the sound". But if wierdy's the bag your into, good luck,
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Are you playing games with us here in the Piano Teacher's Forum?
Then what is the point if that is not you?
Betty Patnude No.. im not playing games... and are you trying to be rude? I asked was i a quick learner? and i gave you a list of the pieces i have been learning, i dont know if Orochimaru's Theme makes much sense to you people. therefore i posted a video of it! i told you it wasnt me. if you had read some of the previous post you would have understood. The point of showing it was to show what piece i learned...second i dont know if you have heard the gnossiene's but they are definitely not like a TV... please do some resaerch before you post a reply which has no meaning. Also the thing about tutorials... i dont use them, i use sheets... i dont understand people like you... just babbling about things i havent even talked about
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I do wonder if the OP is straight out of that story about the three billy goats gruff. (for those that aren't familiar, two of the goats featured in the title meet a nasty end when they get tossed into the river by a troll). However I've just spent an hour practicing all 36 keys played over 4 octaves in 10ths and trying to master trills in Hannon played in Bmajor, so crossing the bridge to get to the green grass on the other side comes as very welcome relief. Gnossieme 3 is an ABRSM grade 6 peice, mortals usually tackle that one after 6 years of playing - ergo yes you are learing 12 times quicker than the rest of us, especially since it only took you a week to learn. (although it didn't take Les Dawson long to learn it either -if you dont get that, look him up on Wikipedia, the entry's worth the read) So "Well done Oblacone"- do you want me to pm you a medal or something? But what will really set you apart from the rest of the world is if stick at it and come back in 6 or 10 years to post a video of yourself on you tube - that really is of you playing this time - then we can all truly marvel. The world is full of talented people who show great promise at things and then dont stick at it, prefering to move onto the next 9 day wonder - which is what keeps the music industry and divorce lawyers in business. Good luck PS I really would n't waste time on Gnossieme 3. I think Eric had eaten an omlette made from the wrong sort of mushrooms when he wrote that. In my edition they've forgotten to put in the bar markings and is the instruction "open your mind" a neurosurgical directive? I cant play it anyway because Mrs W refuses to throw a rug over the piano on the last line where eric tells us to "muffle the sound". But if wierdy's the bag your into, good luck,
What was that about the goats? isnt it like the small goat says dont eat me the next one that passes is much better or something? anyway haha I just wanted to know because ive tried to teach my little brother some piano.. but he cant even use all his fingers at once.. and this girl that has her lesson before me used 2 weeks to learn "winter Waltz" ... but i dont think she practices much... .. ill PM you for that medal later:P do you have any recomendations for pieces i could try to learn? I dont think gnosienne is hard because all you have to do is move back and forth with left hand and some simple notes on the right... so i am thinking of trying to learn Schubert's Serenade
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Yes! or... i think well I have played for three people :P but we have group lessons sometimes too although when we have that we just play duets and eat cookies :P
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Are you looking for some kind of affirmation from the Forum? Why did you post this in different parts of the forum? Can't really tell how quick a learner you are. What scales do you know, and practice? What other "basics" have you covered? I've heard teachers who heap praise on students, and those who don't, so the "star pupil" comment is pretty meaningless to anyone here without context. The video makes it hard to tell. How much of that is "you," and how much is the program. Is that "you" doing the pedaling - including (for some reason) holding down the left pedal throughout? I'd have to hear you on a real piano to tell whether it sounds like you haven't just forced the piece - like a square peg in a round hole - into your fingers. At 6 months you should enjoy what you're doing - enjoy the process. People who worry about being quick learners often tend to skip important steps in the process.
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Originally Posted By: Betty Patnude Are you playing games with us here in the Piano Teacher's Forum?Then what is the point if that is not you? Betty Patnude
OP: No.. im not playing games... and are you trying to be rude? I asked was i a quick learner? and i gave you a list of the pieces i have been learning, i dont know if Orochimaru's Theme makes much sense to you people. therefore i posted a video of it!
OP: i told you it wasn't me. Betty: Your first post definitely DID NOT say this was not you playing. You edited it sometime after I posted. This made other posters think I missed your qualifier. Well it just wasn't there originally.
OP: if you had read some of the previous post you would have understood. The point of showing it was to show what piece i learned...
Betty: That's as good as plagarism when you represent someone else at the piano and let us assume it is you playing. Not you, doesn't look like you, sound like you, it's another person playing, only the song is the same. We have no way of knowing how YOU play. Does the person who made that video mind if you used it?
OP: second i dont know if you have heard the gnossiene's but they are definitely not like a TV... please do some resaerch before you post a reply which has no meaning.
BP: Please do some research before you spell research resaerch. I have had no need to research gnossiene, but perhaps I will find time to so I can see what your point your are trying to make is here.
OP: Also the thing about tutorials... i dont use them, i use sheets... i dont understand people like you... just babbling about things i havent even talked about.
Betty: Have you ever noticed that people talk about what they want to add to the communication, things that are about the topic, but in the way that they have experienced or perceived something, what is added is supplemental to rounding out the topic. Addendums.
Betty's comments at the moment: I find your demand for approval to be rude. I would be the first person to give approval without being prompted, if there was something to approve of. The young man who did the video, would have received some comments from me as a teacher, and having the music in front of me would have produced even more comments because then I could check his accuracy out from the composer's end. I think praise is easier to give when it is given from a realistic perspective and is truly merited.
We don't know your work, only something about your music selections, so far. Does that make sense that we could go along with you and say "isn't that impressive", but you did not do the work and show us your stuff. Then you edited to say it was not you afterwards - which was a smart move - but you need to admit that you changed your posting and what you changed was the part about the identity of the pianist not being you.
I think I am probably coming off rude to you, but I'm seeing it as my need to convey to you some respect for the path of musicianship and those who work hard to attain it. It's a long term process of years of endeavor until we really know how good we are.
I still don't have a clear picture of you, it has all been described by you and you have a vested interest. So making a comment about you, your abilities, or anything you've said here so far is not doable. I can't praise what I haven't seen or heard - and that would be the real you. So about the best I could do right now is that you seem enthusiastic and ambitious about your music choices and about your progress.
The question about am I a quick learner would depend on how you yourself play these pieces. Not just that you play them, but that you play them well.
I can relate to your enthusiasm, but the way this has been handled by you, would put a piano teacher off somewhat, and it would be very difficult to give you the comments and approval that you wanted to hear without having seen the real you at your instrument.
I represent only myself and my opinion. We are in the Piano Teachers Forum and what you are likely to receive here is "piano teacher talk".
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... common i dont want to read that book but! Remember you should never be rude by quoting someones spelling because it will only lead to a similar response! "your point your are trying to make is here. " not to be rude but just check your grammar:D im not saying that you did something wrong just saying that answering like you did .. wasnt clever. Remember this isnt grammar and spelling school
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YES you kind of got it! you see i only know pieces! but when it comes to like D-major and all that flat and sharp.. im all lost! and the program is just something to get sound, everything there was me in the video. the pedaling was me too.
Well you see i dont think im good at the sheet music things and scales! and when you get called a star pupil im scared that i wont learn what everybody else learns. just the basic things. So i can tell my teacher that im not acctually too good i just know how to play.
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At 6 months you should enjoy what you're doing - enjoy the process. People who worry about being quick learners often tend to skip important steps in the process. So what do you suggest? because i don't like easy pieces because we only have 20 minutes every week which means if i learn a simple piece then all that happens is talking about other things.... I have a learn to play piano book ... which has DVDs and all that? would it be good if i did advanced pieces but read the book and asked my teacher about it or is there anything that can be skipped then because i dont learn it from my teacher?
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umm yea can i just tell you one thing.. im not after praise.. i am after warnings and suggestions and approval... Youre a teacher right? yes you are. And id think that a teacher.. as you are you would know what to say to your student if he advanced fast.. but still i have not learned the scale things, a bit but not to much but then what do you need them for? because don't you just read the sheet music and play it? sometimes she asks .. well im from norway so we have different terminology but i think it is a scale... or or major? well maybe some one can translate "dur" so i have no clue what that is. is it necessary?
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Let's just be clear about this....
You are saying that the recording of the Gnossienne you posted is YOU playing? The one that shows a digital image of a piano keyboard with moving keys and pedals (4 of them?) and says 'pianoteq is running in demo mode'? You are not planning on going back and editing your post claiming that it isn't you and you never said it was?
Okay.
Well the recording is extremely professional. How did you do that exactly. You must have some pretty impressive equipment?
The playing itself is excellent. Accuracy is flawless from start to finish. Not easy when you have those LH leaps from bass notes to chords in the middle register. It's expressive too. Expert control over touch, voicing and balance of tone. Very atmospheric. The melodic line is well phrased and projected and the accompaniment judged to perfection. There is a subtle hint of rubato which gives that sense of feeling lost and yet it has direction and purpose when necessary. Wombat said that this piece is on the list for ABRSM grade 6. You wouldn't hear many grade 6 students play it like this. They wouldn't have the control. It's the kind of thing which usually takes years of experience to develop. This recording sounds to me like a musician with a great deal of experience with this genre, composer and piece.
All of this from a 15 year old who began playing just 6 months ago. Someone who has played this piece for just one week. Someone who gets lost with sharps and flats and can't see the point in scales and exercises. Someone who likes to play video game music.
If this is you playing then you are more than a 'star pupil'.
I know that a lot of people will give you the benefit of the doubt here. What I don't like though is that many will read threads like this and wonder why they can't play that well after 6 years, let alone 6 months. I am afraid I don't believe you. I could be mistaken but I think that Betty has the measure of you.
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Let's just be clear about this.... Someone who likes to play video game music.
What's wrong with that? Oblacone, if you're outputting to pianoteq that only gives us an idea of your being able to hit the right notes expressively and with the correct rhythm. It tells us nothing about your fingering, proper use of arms, etc. We don't know what grasp you have of the theory behind the music. Just as you can tell a person's musicality, but not necessarily their technical skill, from a recording. Admittedly, it sounds good but that doesn't allow us to tell whether you're progressing especially fast or not. I learned many pieces when I first started to play and because I was so familiar with them it was a piece of cake to play at the correct tempo and hit the right notes -- but my playing was, although I didn't realize it, awkward and ignorant. I took time to memorize individual notes rather than just realizing "duh, this an arpeggiated chord." All this, of course, doesn't discount the possibility that you may well be progressing quickly --after all, anyone playing for 6 months wouldn't have a firm grasp on any of the above skills. But rather than asking for confirmation or denial of your teacher's praise, it might be more useful for you to ask what you should work on (in addition to what your teacher mentions). And we can't tell that from what you've provided. If you're just looking for some sort of encouragement that yes, you are capable of playing (in time, with the proper amount of practice) whatever pieces you happen to like and think are now beyond your grasp: yes, as long as you keep our your playing. If you're looking for some sign that your "natural talent," as it were, precludes you from having to practice every day, or a way to extrapolate your current rate of progress ("most people can play this etude in x years, so it'll probably take me..."), don't count on it -- although I'm not at all accusing you of that since you've said nothing to imply that you're thinking this way.
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Nothing wrong with playing video game music. I used to do it when I was a kid.
But I am willing to bet that whoever made the recording of the Gnossienne posted in this thread is not a player of video game music.
That's all.
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Accomplishment brings a real sense of pride that can keep you motivated for a long time because it is authentic.
The other kind of pride is the self-serving one.
From: “When All You Have Left is Your Pride†By Benedict Carey Published: April 6, 2009 New York Times
“So-called authentic pride flows from real accomplishments, like raising a difficult child, starting a company or rebuilding an engine. Hubristic pride, as Dr. Tracy (Jessica L. Tracy of the University of British Columbia) calls it, is closer to arrogance or narcissism, pride without substantial foundation.â€
That's how I feel about this topic after following the information. I also tend to feel that those who need approval are basically insatiable. It is a wonderful break through when they experience first hand their own inner sense of pride and the building of self-esteem.
My role as a piano teacher allows me to praise where it is worthy and to compliment when I can do it sincerely. My biggest job is to keep supplying instruction and information along with corrections and constructive criticism with which to create the building blocks that make learning both enjoyable and doable.
Never rest on your laurels - there is still a long path in front of all of us...music is a life time occupation if you've achieved the passion for it and put your best work into every opportunity given to you.
Bottom line....authenticity!
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Hi all, I'm a newbie here so forgive my honesty. I just started learning the piano after I started learning how to pee without my diapers. My mother got a piano teacher to teach me piano. Oh how I like lessons! My teacher thinks I’m a genius (me too!). I started with Chopsticks on day one without ever needing to learn reading notes. Well, reading notes is like natural for me. I guess my mum was teaching me music theory while I was struggling with nutrition from the tiny umbilical cord and while I was dancing in her amniotic fluid. Then in my second lesson, I was already starting the first movement of Rach 3. My teacher thought I was marvelously endowed (both in my subcutaneous tissue and musicality). I’m 3 years old (don’t ask me how I managed to type on the keyboard), and I am aspiring to get all those pianists out of business. Do you think I’m a genius too?Edit: Wrong spelling - expected from a three year old, eh?
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If you were human I would say that your progress is perfectly normal. But I must admit it is pretty impressive for a chihuahua! The Rach must be quite a stretch for little paws.
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I believe that Chris H and Betty have both correctly weighed- up the OP.
Before you make up your own mind whether the OP is winding us up or not, you may wish to check out some of his other YouTube offerings: ‘My trip’..... & ‘She Blocked me......’. CAUTION! Don’t watch more than a few minutes of either as they should carry a severe health warning! These clearly give an idea of the sort of individual that is posting here, and hint to a condition of chronic fatigue, nostrils being sprinkled with fairy dust, or both.
In one post he says “I am after warnings and suggestions......â€. Judging from his apparent knowledge of computers and associated technology, he’s no fool, but I would immediately suggest that he could well benefit from a number of sessions on a shrink’s couch, urgent parental guidance, or both. Assuming he is 15, I’d be desperate if he was my son!
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Currently working on:- C Major scale (r/h only - starting with the pinkie finger)......
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Nothing wrong with playing video game music. I used to do it when I was a kid.
But I am willing to bet that whoever made the recording of the Gnossienne posted in this thread is not a player of video game music.
That's all. Well you are wrong, i like Zelda and i like spooky/sad classical music... so
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I believe that Chris H and Betty have both correctly weighed- up the OP.
Before you make up your own mind whether the OP is winding us up or not, you may wish to check out some of his other YouTube offerings: ‘My trip’..... & ‘She Blocked me......’. CAUTION! Don’t watch more than a few minutes of either as they should carry a severe health warning! These clearly give an idea of the sort of individual that is posting here, and hint to a condition of chronic fatigue, nostrils being sprinkled with fairy dust, or both.
In one post he says “I am after warnings and suggestions......â€. Judging from his apparent knowledge of computers and associated technology, he’s no fool, but I would immediately suggest that he could well benefit from a number of sessions on a shrink’s couch, urgent parental guidance, or both. Assuming he is 15, I’d be desperate if he was my son!
HAHAHA no no no the youtube videos are just me joking, well you would probably not understand once you see them but its just me fooling around. you know whats it called internal jokes? Look that youtube account is just a mess. the parental guidance thing i didn't quite understand...but dont worry ... -- Edit-- Does it help to brag about the fact i go to a private school? and have a great mother whom cares a lot about me? but we aren't "dirt rich"
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