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#1174829 - 04/05/09 10:53 AM Silent System Yamaha vs Kawai
olivefromparis Offline
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Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 5
Loc: Paris, France
Hie

I intend to buy a piano with a silent system.
I have gone to several shops and one salesman told me that the kawai silent system (even the new one) could damage the acoustic part of the piano, because when striking a key the silent system touches the acoustic part of the piano (the hammer I think). On the other hand, according to him, the Yamaha system does not damage the acoustic of the piano.

Have you any information about this question ? Is this real ?

thx for your help

Olivier

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#1174843 - 04/05/09 11:30 AM Re: Silent System Yamaha vs Kawai [Re: olivefromparis]
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Well you have to ask yourself two questions:

#1. Why would Kawai build a piano that would damage itself?

#2. Would the salesman that told you this happen to sell Yamaha and not Kawai?
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#1175006 - 04/05/09 04:50 PM Re: Silent System Yamaha vs Kawai [Re: Silverwood Pianos]
Oblacone Offline
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since the answer is obviously answered that, that isnt true... kawai doesnt self destruct
but how does the silent system work?

how does it work on the yamaha
compare to the Kawai?
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#1178357 - 04/11/09 08:07 AM Re: Silent System Yamaha vs Kawai [Re: Oblacone]
olivefromparis Offline
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Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 5
Loc: Paris, France
I am trying to get some information.
I think the main difference is that Yamaha is an optical system, while kawai is a mechanical system. But I don t know exactly what this means.

My teacher will ask to her piano tuner whe he will come to tune her piano (early May).

As for me, I will go to another shop to ask another salesman.

I will let you what they say;

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#1178581 - 04/11/09 03:55 PM Re: Silent System Yamaha vs Kawai [Re: olivefromparis]
Marty Flinn Offline
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The silent systems in the Yamaha and Kawai are both good and work in a similar fashion. The shopping key is to play both pianos in acoustic then silent mode and feel the action touch and tone. This sounds simple, but escapes many shoppers of hybrid instruments.
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#1181467 - 04/16/09 10:25 AM Re: Silent System Yamaha vs Kawai [Re: Marty Flinn]
olivefromparis Offline
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Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 5
Loc: Paris, France
hello

I have gone to another store and the salesman told me that the silent kawai would not damage the acoustic part of the piano.

Ask a salesman, you get one answer, ask anoher salesman you get another answer ...

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#1182145 - 04/17/09 10:28 AM Re: Silent System Yamaha vs Kawai [Re: olivefromparis]
athomik Offline
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Registered: 01/04/07
Posts: 296
Loc: England
I haven't seen the Kawai system, but I do know that the Yamaha system uses optic fibres for sensing the keys and hammers.

This means that (apart from a very slight difference in setting the let-off) there is no diference between a purely acoustic piano and it's equivalent silent model.

As far as the Kawai is concerned, it may use mechanical key sensors, which would affect the touch, but I can't see them marketing a system which would 'damage' a piano.
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