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#1174421 - 04/04/09 02:38 PM Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert
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In honor of the upcoming 23rd anniversary of this wonderful, iconic concert (coming up on April 20th), I have attempted to compile a list of the videos from it that are available on YT. I was unable to find the video of the Liszt Soirée de Vienne No.6; thus I substituted the performance from Vienna. The Rach. Polka de WR was only available in audio form as far as I could tell. My reason for posting this now rather than on the 20th is that I will be busy at that time.

Enjoy!!



This is the program, from Christian Johanssen's wonderful site, in the Concertography section:

1. Scarlatti: Sonata in B minor, K.87

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lmqDOjHx70

2. Scarlatti: Sonata in E major, K.380

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaHMdDjNnZ8

3. Scarlatti: Sonata in E major, K.135

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-oVkAKBgOo

4. Mozart: Sonata in C major, K.330
I. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd7Q7vhNB-I
II. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQzp_-N6IUs
III. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv2oM5DE1Mk


5. Rachmaninoff: Prelude in G major, Op.32 No.5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUI2DS7vHas

6. Rachmaninoff: Prelude in G-sharp minor, Op.32 No.12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-umLy_5J3k

7. Scriabin: Etude in C-sharp minor, Op.2 No.1
8. Scriabin: Etude in D-sharp minor, Op.8 No.12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt1TOxdVzDA

9. Schubert: Impromptu in B-flat major, Op.142 No.3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YWcVO9Mncw

10. Liszt: Soirée de Vienne No.6 (after Schubert)

I could not find video of the Moscow version; the Vienna performance will have to suffice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXBHF1iFoqc


11. Liszt: Sonetto 104 del Petrarca

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdNNPcctrJY

12. Chopin: Mazurka in C-sharp minor, Op.30 No.4
13. Chopin: Mazurka in F minor, Op.7 No.3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux83eq40oA4

14. Chopin: Polonaise in A-flat major, Op.53

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBwmCyVpQvk

Encores:

1. Schumann: Träumerei, Op.15 No.7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq7ncjhSqtk

2. Moszkowski: Etincelles, Op.36 No.6

Substituted the Vienna performance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75ZAOwgzoAE

3. Rachmaninoff: Polka de W.R. (audio only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cdF3sB6k-E

AFAIK, the last two encores are not available on YT in video form, and the Moszkowski seems to be unavailable entirely. I seem to recall that they were omitted from the DVD, but I could be wrong. If someone does indeed know where they might be found, please let me know! smile


Edited by Horowitzian (04/04/09 04:44 PM)
Edit Reason: Corrected a link mix-up in the Encores.
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#1174469 - 04/04/09 03:48 PM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: Horowitzian]
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What happened to the piano now? Do you know?

Compare his Liszt: Sonetto 104 del Petrarca with others (especially Bolet) on YT, now I think I know what school LL is coming from! grin


Edited by newport (04/04/09 03:52 PM)
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#1174485 - 04/04/09 04:16 PM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: newport]
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Horowitzian :

Thanks for pulling all this together.

One note : the link following the Moszkowski 'Etincelles' is actually for the last item, the Rachmaninoff 'Polka de W.R.'

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#1174503 - 04/04/09 04:36 PM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: BruceD]
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Originally Posted By: BruceD
Horowitzian :

Thanks for pulling all this together.

One note : the link following the Moszkowski 'Etincelles' is actually for the last item, the Rachmaninoff 'Polka de W.R.'

Regards,


You're welcome, and thanks for the catch. smile
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#1174508 - 04/04/09 04:43 PM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: Horowitzian]
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UPDATE: I fixed the link mix-up in the Encores. The Rachmaninoff is now where it's supposed to be, and I changed the post to reflect the fact that I could not find the Moszkowski. I substituted the Vienna performance of that piece. smile
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#1174510 - 04/04/09 04:48 PM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: newport]
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Originally Posted By: newport
What happened to the piano now? Do you know?

Compare his Liszt: Sonetto 104 del Petrarca with others (especially Bolet) on YT, now I think I know what school LL is coming from! grin


grin

The piano is the famous CD314503. It is the one Steinway sends most often on the Pianos of the Legends Tour. I've heard that it no longer boasts the unusual regulation Horowitz used due to a complete action rebuild.

I posted a couple of pictures (Not mine, I found them) of it down in the Photo Gallery:

http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/galleries/1174518.html#Post1174518


Edited by Horowitzian (04/04/09 05:03 PM)
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#1174588 - 04/04/09 08:25 PM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: Horowitzian]
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Some of remember watching the broadcast of the concert!
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#1174597 - 04/04/09 08:54 PM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: Piano*Dad]
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wrong topic


Edited by newport (04/04/09 08:56 PM)
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#1174611 - 04/04/09 09:26 PM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: Piano*Dad]
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Originally Posted By: Piano*Dad
Some of remember watching the broadcast of the concert!




You? smirk

wink
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#1174743 - 04/05/09 06:27 AM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: Horowitzian]
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Hi Horowitzian - I have the DVD. Both the Moszkowski and Rachmaninoff selections are included on the disc. The one thing that is missing (although I might be mistaken that it was supposed to be included) is the Charles Kuralt interview with Franz Mohr. The disc opens with Mohr coordinating the shipment of the piano to Moscow, which I think is part of the Kuralt piece but, again, I might be wrong. In any case, an absolutely wonderful piece of history to have available on DVD. It was also my first introduction to Scriabin's compositions, which I now can't get enough of.

Jim
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#1174772 - 04/05/09 08:22 AM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: Jim B]
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is it the same piano that Steinway Hall exhibits and allows people to play periodically (? yearly)?

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#1174880 - 04/05/09 01:17 PM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: Jim B]
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Originally Posted By: Jim B
Hi Horowitzian - I have the DVD. Both the Moszkowski and Rachmaninoff selections are included on the disc. The one thing that is missing (although I might be mistaken that it was supposed to be included) is the Charles Kuralt interview with Franz Mohr. The disc opens with Mohr coordinating the shipment of the piano to Moscow, which I think is part of the Kuralt piece but, again, I might be wrong. In any case, an absolutely wonderful piece of history to have available on DVD. It was also my first introduction to Scriabin's compositions, which I now can't get enough of.

Jim


Thanks for the info, Jim. That Kuralt interview is on YT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee1kkz5iXX4 --and this one which actually has the interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA2KzMOXPBU

Those two gorillas arguing about where the piano is relative to the crate are pretty funny. grin

PS--Can't get enough Scriabin or Rachmaninoff here. wink


Edited by Horowitzian (04/05/09 01:22 PM)
Edit Reason: added another link
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#1174887 - 04/05/09 01:33 PM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: Horowitzian]
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At least they didn't tip it on its lyre.

Mohr used the term "a little nasal" to describe the piano's tone. Although I have heard the word "nasal" used quite a bit before, I really don't know what this implies. Does it mean what some might call the typically slightly muddy(no insult intended here)bass on Steinway as compared to Bechstein?

Can anyone explain this...I know it's hard to explain words used to describe tone and it could even mean different things to different people? Which pianos do you think typically have a nasal tone or typically do not have this kind of tone?

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#1174899 - 04/05/09 01:57 PM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: pianoloverus]
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"Nasal" is a common description of vocalists, particularly a certain popular genre vocalist, Randy Travis:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-aPyU1o8iM

I doubt that "nasal" in the context of Horowitz's piano means the muddier bass. Listen to Horowitz's piano closely and you can hear that it indeed has greater clarity in the lower register than most NY Steinways. What Mr. Mohr may be getting at is that that piano sounds less "rich" (at least to me) than other NY Steinways I've heard.
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#1175799 - 04/06/09 09:41 PM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: Horowitzian]
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For anyone who missed this, and might be interested. wink
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#1175933 - 04/07/09 05:36 AM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: Horowitzian]
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Originally Posted By: Horowitzian


For anyone who missed this, and might be interested. wink


Now is this the concert that the management demanded Horowitz go back out afterward and pick up all the notes he dropped during the performance, or did that only happen at his White House performance? grin
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#1175958 - 04/07/09 07:15 AM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: BJones]
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Now is this the concert that the management demanded Horowitz go back out afterward and pick up all the notes he dropped during the performance, or did that only happen at his White House performance?

Cruel, but I did see the grin.
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#1176059 - 04/07/09 11:49 AM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: BJones]
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Originally Posted By: Horowitzian


For anyone who missed this, and might be interested. wink


Now is this the concert that the management demanded Horowitz go back out afterward and pick up all the notes he dropped during the performance, or did that only happen at his White House performance? grin


I don't think it was even Horowitz that story relates to. But in any case, no. smile
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#1176292 - 04/07/09 06:57 PM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: Horowitzian]
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Originally Posted By: BJones
Originally Posted By: Horowitzian


For anyone who missed this, and might be interested. wink


Now is this the concert that the management demanded Horowitz go back out afterward and pick up all the notes he dropped during the performance, or did that only happen at his White House performance? grin


I don't think it was even Horowitz that story relates to. But in any case, no. smile

Such insolent innuendo mad

This is the concert he happily received and packed the pay check in his shirt pocket ... right after the performance, I think. (Isn't that dis-respectful on the part of the concert management?) ... Sorry, I am talking about his Lincoln Center Rach 3 concert.

Oh ... I heard that Horowitz drinks? Tell me it's not true.


Edited by newport (04/07/09 06:58 PM)
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#1176327 - 04/07/09 08:00 PM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: newport]
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Ah, I'm sure he did. He smoked a lot until the mid 60's as well. He was from a time when gentlemen drank (in moderation, of course) and smoked as a matter of course. I believe he gave up alcohol in his later years.


Now can we please discuss the artistic merits of this concert? smile
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#1206055 - 05/26/09 11:14 AM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: Horowitzian]
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UPDATE:

Someone recently uploaded the Moscow performance of the Schubert/Liszt Soirée de Vienne No.6.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXAB-eBws38
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#1206158 - 05/26/09 01:43 PM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: Horowitzian]
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#1206160 - 05/26/09 01:45 PM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: Drunk3nFist]
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No problem! smile
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#1207927 - 05/29/09 08:27 AM Re: Horowitz's Moscow 1986 concert [Re: Horowitzian]
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The Scriabin etudes are so amazing that the mistakes (in no 12) are very much forgiveable.

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