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Does anyone have any advice for me on these? I'm attempting the Liszt-Horowitz Hungarian Rhapsody and I can't get the hang of the interlocking octave run towards the end.
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Practice the interlocking notes with just your thumbs. Then when you have the passage down, add the octaves with 4 & 5.
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Practice the interlocking notes with just your thumbs. Then when you have the passage down, add the octaves with 4 & 5. Yes, and 1-5 will work too if you just can't get the hang of alternating 4 and 5. Try to use 4 and 5 if you can, though. It's smoother. Good luck on an ambitious project. 
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Practice the interlocking notes with just your thumbs. Then when you have the passage down, add the octaves with 4 & 5. The first idea is a great one. However I have never "fingered" what are sometimes known as Chromatic blind octaves; personally I would find it a hindrance rather than a help. I use 1-5 in both hands throughout such runs. Perhaps FunkyLama should try them both ways in order to discover what feels the most comfortable. P.S. Sorry Horowitzian for repeating your advice... you just got there ahead of me as I was composing my post!
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That's fine! 
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I find it helpful to practice them with just the thumb of one hand, and the octave in the other; then switch.
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I've learned to "ignore" the lower finger and focus on the thumb. The pinky goes along for the ride so to speak. Play the thumb and let the pinky move along with it after setting up the hand to play the first octave. Keep the hand in the proper position, and let the pinky ride along.
It's really harder to explain then to do. I find that we sometimes read more into a problem than there is a problem.
John
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Beethoven Sonata Op. 10 No. 2 in F, Haydn Sonata Hoboken XVI:41, Bach French Suite No. 5 in G BWV 816
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I've learned to "ignore" the lower finger and focus on the thumb. The pinky goes along for the ride so to speak. Play the thumb and let the pinky move along with it after setting up the hand to play the first octave. Keep the hand in the proper position, and let the pinky ride along.
It's really harder to explain then to do. I find that we sometimes read more into a problem than there is a problem.
John Yeah, that's how I tend to do it :P; Regardless, I found MarkH's advice to be very helpful - they're coming along nicely now. Also I'm just playing 1-5 at the moment, but I think I'll try to switch to alternating 4 and 5 for reasons of fluency.
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There's a Donyanhi (sp?) exercise on this technique in his book of studies. I think it's basically the last one in the book.
Matt
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