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#1180556 04/14/09 11:17 PM
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New to the board. Been reading posts for the past week. Great resource. Looking to buy a piano for daughter currently playing electronic keyboard for the past three years. One option is a used Samick, one owner, SG 155, Serial Number: HI KG 1030. Asking $3900. Before making any final move,I will follow the unanimous advice of this community by getting a qualified expert review, but would like to filter potential purchases first. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Much Thanks in advance.

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Personally I think the asking price of the piano(Samick 155) is abit overpriced. This piano at 5'1"ish was manufactured in 1989 which makes it near 20 years old.The seller's asking price is somewhat legit in that this piano back than was more expensive than comparable/superior pianos in today's market.The seller having paid 7-8K discounted for this piano 20 years ago,the $3900 would seem like a fair asking price. The problem is one can get a superior piano "brand new" today for a couple $ grand more than the $3900. If a piano is superior in build coupled with the fact of it being "brand new" I would think it would be worth the extra dinero. The Hailun 151 comes to mind. Now if the Samick is in extrodinary cond. being 20 years new ,I would say $2500-$3000 max in this day and age.I rest my case before the PW court wink


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I agree with that, but I'm not sure that I would offer even $2500. Take a tech with you and see what work will need to be done. After all, if you are comparing this with a Hailun HG 151 you get prepping, delivery, and one or two "free" tunings. This could result in a $500 - 1000 closing of the price gap.

Plus, the Hailun is a fine instrument. The Samick would be a good value.


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Thanks so much. Another option is a 1986 Young Chang G185 for $3K. However the Hailun seems worthy of exploration. I will see if there is a Hailun dealer in Eastern North Carolina.

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I had a Samick 186 (6ft) from that time period for about four years. It was brand new when I bought it. I played on it for said four years. Afterwards, the piano was worn out in respects that are too many to list them all here. Low-level quality. Expect problems anytime the weather changes or anytime someone who seriously wants to learn piano, practices on such an instrument. Sticky keys, worn-out bushels, inferior felt, poor pedal design, poor leather in action (wears off like heck). tuning instability.... and more stuff.
My piano tuner/dealer came to my house for frequent warranty service to which he was obligated. He cursed the piano and so did I!
Expect similar problems with other pianos of the same quality/age. If you must buy a Samick or Young Chang or the like, buy as cheap as possible so that you can get rid of the instrument as fast as possible as/if your daughter is ready to move on to something more substantial.

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I will follow the unanimous advice of this community by getting a qualified expert review

Unanimous advice would be nice, but many times you may get conflicting advice. Here's a few I got:
My piano tech: "Don't ever move a piano by yourself," when I asked him about it.
Seller's piano tech: "I moved my piano couple of times by myself," when I asked him about saving moving cost.

My Concert player friend: "A used piano not been tuned 15+ years would almost likely get out of tune in a couple of months however many times may it be tuned," when I asked her about 25 year old Kawai piano.
My piano tech: "25 year old, one owner Kawai 803 that has rarely been played/tuned does not even need to be inspected and would never have a problem to be tuned and stay in tune for a long time," when I asked about the same piano.

One pianotech: "Weinbach 114 (? 15 year old 44 inch upright) far outperforms Yamaha U1/U3 and Kawai UST-7/8/9," when I asked him to compare a Weinbach to Yamaha/Kawai.
My pianotech: "I don't have much to say about Weinbach, but I can say Kawai 803 or any UST is a really good piano for the price," when I asked the same question.

These are just a few conflicting advice/comments I had got recently. I could hardly get a unanimous opinion from very experienced players and piano techs.

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Originally Posted by pianobroker
Personally I think the asking price of the piano(Samick 155) is abit overpriced. This piano at 5'1"ish was manufactured in 1989 which makes it near 20 years old.The seller's asking price is somewhat legit in that this piano back than was more expensive than comparable/superior pianos in today's market.The seller having paid 7-8K discounted for this piano 20 years ago,the $3900 would seem like a fair asking price. The problem is one can get a superior piano "brand new" today for a couple $ grand more than the $3900. If a piano is superior in build coupled with the fact of it being "brand new" I would think it would be worth the extra dinero. The Hailun 151 comes to mind. Now if the Samick is in extrodinary cond. being 20 years new ,I would say $2500-$3000 max in this day and age.I rest my case before the PW court wink

Thanks for the advice. Went and looked at the Hailun 151. The price was $8K plus tax and delivery. Seemed like more than a couple $ grand more. Is this a reasonable price? If so, any other recommendations come to mind?
Thanks in advance.


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